k813zra Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 A while back you all advised me on picking my first rod (in years) and aside from getting a lemon the first time around I have been happy with the replacement. My current rod is used for mostly small eater sized Channel cat 1-2 pound range and walleye or whatever else bites the line. It is a 6'6'' Shimano Sojurn Medium with a Shimano 2500FE and has been serving me well this past few weeks. However, as was mentioned to me by a poster here I did in fact decide I needed a second setup pretty quickly. I do a lot of panfishing and my wife brought me home a surprise rod. Ugly stick Elite. This rod is an UL with a line rating of 2-6 pounds and a lure rating of 1/32-1/4 and is 5'. It will be used for 1/16-1/8 crappie jigs and roster tails of the same weight. Maybe a little float fishing around trees and stumps. I think the size will work well for the stretch of river I panfish as there is a ton of overhead cover and the river is narrow. My question is what size reel to go with? Now, I like the Shimano just fine and I liked my old Abu Garcia Cardinal too but I got to see and feel some president reels in the bait shop the other day and they just feel better to me. I can't describe why, I just connected with the reel. The thing is, I don't know which size to go with. 20, 25 or 30. I was tinking that the 25 might best fit this rod. I have been doing a lot of reading and it seems that the 25 is overall larger and has a bigger diameter spool than the 20, which from reading seems to be something many suggest. On the other hand the 30 seems like it might be a bit heavy for a 5' UL rod. Also, is there any reason to go with the XT over the regular president? The thing is, I may or may not outgrow this rod and want something different for panfishing. If that ends up being the case I would like to get a reel that will move over to the next rod nicely. Thanks! Quote
mllrtm79 Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 my gut would say for 5' definitely not over the 25, but I'm the guy who has a 1000 size lew's mr crappie on a 6' medium rod for senkos... I think for the line size you're going to be using the smaller reels would be just fine, but I have not looked at the president series. Maybe take your rod into the store with you and get a feel for how each size balances/feels to you with it, that way you don't have to get it home and find you've got too much or too little reel for your liking. 1 Quote
Super User Darren. Posted April 5, 2017 Super User Posted April 5, 2017 1 hour ago, k813zra said: Now, I like the Shimano just fine and I liked my old Abu Garcia Cardinal too but I got to see and feel some president reels in the bait shop the other day and they just feel better to me. I can't describe why, I just connected with the reel. The thing is, I don't know which size to go with. 20, 25 or 30. I was tinking that the 25 might best fit this rod. I have been doing a lot of reading and it seems that the 25 is overall larger and has a bigger diameter spool than the 20, which from reading seems to be something many suggest. On the other hand the 30 seems like it might be a bit heavy for a 5' UL rod. Also, is there any reason to go with the XT over the regular president? This is the critical part of your post (IMO). I had the opposite experience and "connected" better with Shimano. We're all different, and it's all good!! I'd go with a 20 for a 5' UL rod. On Shimano I'd pick a 500. Like @mllrtm79, I'm a 1000 size guy. Not sure if Lew's is the same as Shimano, but I've got 5 Stradic 1000s and use them for bass fishing... Got 1 500 Sahara and it's been used for bass, too, capable of brining in a good one if you happen to score one during UL fishing. The 20 will be fine, too. 1 Quote
k813zra Posted April 5, 2017 Author Posted April 5, 2017 Thank you both. I have not had the chance to try out any of the mid to high end shimano gear, maybe that has a better feel than the Sienna. I like the idea of taking the rod into the shop, that won't be an issue. I think I will do that this afternoon. As an aside, the fishing was decent today. No target species but I brought in a fairly large carp and a few shad (small ones). 2 Quote
Spider Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 For light work I use a Shimano 2500 "Relatively small reel". The most important things to consider are that it is not too heavy "Fatigue" and that it has a good drag system. The second I consider the most important. The President reel you mention is also a good choice. GL Quote
k813zra Posted April 5, 2017 Author Posted April 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, XpressJeff said: Shimano Stradic 3000 4 me! Maybe I am misunderstanding but wouldn't that be a little overkill for a 5' ultralight and 4 pound test? I have the Sienna 2500 now on my medium 6'6'' and that seems large. Quote
jakebrake Posted April 5, 2017 Posted April 5, 2017 sounds like a trout setup? personally, I'm running an older quantum xs00 ( assuming that to be a 1000, or thereabouts) any bigger than a 1500 is too big for my tastes when it comes to ultralight. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted April 5, 2017 Super User Posted April 5, 2017 I personally would target the '2500' reel. Bear in mind that your reel is a major player in the overall balance of your outfit ('combo' if you will). The trend toward lighter and lighter reels is understandable, but there is a tipping point. When you go with an unduly light reel (as I tend to do), you're more likely to end-up with a tip-heavy rod. Roger Quote
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