S-T-R-I-K-E-R Posted April 2, 2017 Posted April 2, 2017 I see in YouTube guys who would always say during spring the bass like to do so and so... in the winter they will be around this area. I live in a place where there is no spring and winter. All he have is hot summer, rains and a cool climate on the last quarter of the year. I'd like to understand the behavior of Bass but I cannot apply what you guys know to my local area. Any ideas on where I could start so i may understand how the seasons locally wouyld relate to the behavior of Bass. thanks guys Quote
Super User Crestliner2008 Posted April 2, 2017 Super User Posted April 2, 2017 Regardless of your location, the length of days comes into play as well. There will be seasons in which the bass start to think about spawning. You just need to figure out which time of the year that season occurs. The changes may be subtle, but the changes do occur. Where are you from? 2 Quote
afrayed knot Posted April 2, 2017 Posted April 2, 2017 You might want to let everyone know where it is you are from. It would help to put together this puzzle. 2 Quote
Super User WRB Posted April 2, 2017 Super User Posted April 2, 2017 Google Search Cosmic Clock and Bass Behavior. Tom Quote
Super User Catt Posted April 2, 2017 Super User Posted April 2, 2017 2 hours ago, afrayed knot said: You might want to let everyone know where it is you are from. It would help to put together this puzzle. 29 minutes ago, MassBassin508 said: Where is your local area? I don't understand why people are afraid to fill out their profile! 2 Quote
S-T-R-I-K-E-R Posted April 2, 2017 Author Posted April 2, 2017 sorry i was at busy and wasnt able to reply sooner. im from the philippines. 2 Quote
Super User WRB Posted April 2, 2017 Super User Posted April 2, 2017 Welcome to the BR site. I have read about LMB being transplanted in a few provinces in the Phillopines. Bass are bass wherever they may be located, prey sources change but they are still cold blood animals with annual spawning cycles. Good luck and keep us informed how you doing with your bass fishing. Tom 1 Quote
Super User Crestliner2008 Posted April 2, 2017 Super User Posted April 2, 2017 Welcome aboard! Didn't know the Philippians had bass there. Visited there many times during the 60's while I was in the Navy. Quote
Super User Paul Roberts Posted April 2, 2017 Super User Posted April 2, 2017 I lived in the Philippines for a couple of years. Got to fish Pantabangan and Lumot. Tropical/subtropical bass do not get the temperature cues that greatly influence them over the vast majority of their temperate range. Spawning seasons are much protracted (longer) in the tropics bc water temps almost never drop below spawning temps. But photoperiod is still at play. And I know Pantabangan did get some cool periods during the "ber" months. There 's little research that has been able to truly separate the effects of photoperiod, temperature, and other possible entrainment factors of an endogenous rhythm. In the real world, bass use what's necessary to get the job done or, put more accurately: What works... works. If it didn't, they wouldn't be there. What's known is that tropical bass spawn over long periods -something like 8 months in Puerto Rico! Likely this is true in the PH. I know that I got NO info on seasonal activity -the spawn in particular- while there. No one seemed to consider such things. I assume this is bc bass were potentially on beds over such a long period -What "season"?! Tropical bass are also much shorter lived than northern bass. Apparently they metabolically "burn out", never getting "winter". So... my experience is very limited there. Here's a clip from my records from there: "June 10-12, 2014: ...To find bass I started by checking temperatures. Surface tempd as much as 88F, 86F in the early am, and I got 86F at 20ft in a tertiary channel. The thermocline, if there is one, must be deep indeed, Such temps are pushing beyond metabolic preferentia for LM, meaning that the bass would need a large amount of food to keep them active. Otherwise they move to deeper, cooler water, or reduce activity to the coolest periods. ..." I would look more at the effects of limnological characteristics: water clarity (light penetration), temperature at depths, and cover. In particular, I'd be identifying where the food is at. Got little info on that while there either. There is a small sculpin-like fish (Biyat) in the depths, bluegill-like Tilapia and Ayungin, and carp-like Cyprinids. There was a more pelagic (open water) type fish that I saw bass busting on that could worth pursuing. Some of the larger bass at Panta were caught trolling between spots I noticed, which might indicate large bass hunting larger open water prey. Kick myself for not trying an Alabama Rig there! I know tackle is not readily available there, but you could probably cobble together an A-rig easily enough. Both Lumot and Panta seemed to be deep water -and possibly open water- fisheries for the most part, with their clear water and steep contours -not to mention high water temps. Best I can do. As you know, there are not a whole lot of tools available there to figure things out. Would love to have had more time at Pantabangan. Good luck. Let us know what you find out. I'm always curious, even about waters 1000's of miles away I may never see again. 3 Quote
Super User Raul Posted April 2, 2017 Super User Posted April 2, 2017 I don't get it, what are "seasons" ? 2 Quote
Super User Paul Roberts Posted April 2, 2017 Super User Posted April 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Raul said: I don't get it, what are "seasons" ? See what I mean? Dunno how far S you are Raul, but further S than most of us here. Quote
Super User Raul Posted April 2, 2017 Super User Posted April 2, 2017 15 minutes ago, Paul Roberts said: See what I mean? Dunno how far S you are Raul, but further S than most of us here. 550 miles south of Laredo, TX. We do have "seasons": the months that doesn't rain ( Oct - May ) and the months that rains profuselly ( May - Oct ). 1 Quote
S-T-R-I-K-E-R Posted April 3, 2017 Author Posted April 3, 2017 9 hours ago, Paul Roberts said: I lived in the Philippines for a couple of years. Got to fish Pantabangan and Lumot. Tropical/subtropical bass do not get the temperature cues that greatly influence them over the vast majority of their temperate range. Spawning seasons are much protracted (longer) in the tropics bc water temps almost never drop below spawning temps. But photoperiod is still at play. And I know Pantabangan did get some cool periods during the "ber" months. There 's little research that has been able to truly separate the effects of photoperiod, temperature, and other possible entrainment factors of an endogenous rhythm. In the real world, bass use what's necessary to get the job done or, put more accurately: What works... works. If it didn't, they wouldn't be there. What's known is that tropical bass spawn over long periods -something like 8 months in Puerto Rico! Likely this is true in the PH. I know that I got NO info on seasonal activity -the spawn in particular- while there. No one seemed to consider such things. I assume this is bc bass were potentially on beds over such a long period -What "season"?! Tropical bass are also much shorter lived than northern bass. Apparently they metabolically "burn out", never getting "winter". So... my experience is very limited there. Here's a clip from my records from there: "June 10-12, 2014: ...To find bass I started by checking temperatures. Surface tempd as much as 88F, 86F in the early am, and I got 86F at 20ft in a tertiary channel. The thermocline, if there is one, must be deep indeed, Such temps are pushing beyond metabolic preferentia for LM, meaning that the bass would need a large amount of food to keep them active. Otherwise they move to deeper, cooler water, or reduce activity to the coolest periods. ..." I would look more at the effects of limnological characteristics: water clarity (light penetration), temperature at depths, and cover. In particular, I'd be identifying where the food is at. Got little info on that while there either. There is a small sculpin-like fish (Biyat) in the depths, bluegill-like Tilapia and Ayungin, and carp-like Cyprinids. There was a more pelagic (open water) type fish that I saw bass busting on that could worth pursuing. Some of the larger bass at Panta were caught trolling between spots I noticed, which might indicate large bass hunting larger open water prey. Kick myself for not trying an Alabama Rig there! I know tackle is not readily available there, but you could probably cobble together an A-rig easily enough. Both Lumot and Panta seemed to be deep water -and possibly open water- fisheries for the most part, with their clear water and steep contours -not to mention high water temps. Best I can do. As you know, there are not a whole lot of tools available there to figure things out. Would love to have had more time at Pantabangan. Good luck. Let us know what you find out. I'm always curious, even about waters 1000's of miles away I may never see again. Thanks for the insight on this. will go again to lumot this week. most probably panta by may. fishing tackle are hard to come by here coz people mainly fish salt water thats why the shops usually carry salt water gear. i try to order online but it takes weeks or months to arrive. all the guys who responded here also gave good insights.. i realized that they do have patterns.. it may not be like yours over in the stats but they wouldnt be propagating if they didnt. Thanks so much Quote
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