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Just received my new Shimano Stradic C3000HG and in the packaging I found a package of washers that left me confused. Upon examination it said to consult the instructions regarding the "winding shape" of the spool.

 

Being a mature American male I actually forced myself to open the instructions and discovered the possibility of FRONT or REAR loading the spool. The factory setting being level winding from front to rear.

 

I have never seen this, or payed attention anyway! But this is the best quality spinning reel I have purchased.

 

What would be the reason for wanting the spool loaded unevenly? Casting distance is the only thing I can think of but how would it be affected?

 

 

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I got the same info when I bought my latest reel, a Sustain. I took a look around the internet and found a great article that goes more into detail than I would've ever imagined. I know the title says wind knots, but it goes into depth about line lay and winding shapes.

 

Check it out

 

https://www.henry-gilbey.com/blog/is-the-wrong-winding-shape-one-of-the-causes-of-wind-knots

 

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Thanks Prey, good read.

 

What timing cause that's th r way the 832 went on my Stradik!

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Yes, some reel and line combos you have to adjust line lay/spool height. Otherwise you can be in for some hassles.

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Daiwa TD SS spinning reels have long spool design that is forward tapered to increase casting distance, still one of the top bass reels in $100 price point.

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I know after I read that article I set my Sustain to load a bit more to the rear and I got both significantly better casting distance as well as far fewer wind knots with the very light line I use (Gliss 24lb)

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@Preytorien - by my interpretation the article is suggesting the opposite - loading to the rear increases casting distance but may also increase the likelihood of wind knots.  The author's solution to prevent wind knots was to remove extra washers, and load the spool slightly toward the front (better line management at the expense of some casting distance).

 

I've always thought 'flat' is best, but never really considered the pros/cons of tapered loading.  In my experience with braid on spinning reels, minimizing line twist, keeping the line packed tightly, and not overfilling the spool pretty much prevent any problems.  Seeing a loop of line over the spool lip is a disaster waiting to happen, and should be pulled out immediately.

 

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19 hours ago, fissure_man said:

@Preytorien - by my interpretation the article is suggesting the opposite - loading to the rear increases casting distance but may also increase the likelihood of wind knots.  The author's solution to prevent wind knots was to remove extra washers, and load the spool slightly toward the front (better line management at the expense of some casting distance).

 

I've always thought 'flat' is best, but never really considered the pros/cons of tapered loading.  In my experience with braid on spinning reels, minimizing line twist, keeping the line packed tightly, and not overfilling the spool pretty much prevent any problems.  Seeing a loop of line over the spool lip is a disaster waiting to happen, and should be pulled out immediately.

 

 

Its EXTREMEMLY likely I misinterpreted his article. Ha! 

 

However just speaking from the experience I've been seeing I actually see fewer wind knots than I did as it came stock from Shimano. I didn't really get them too often prior, the "further casting distance" bit caught my eye more. But in the end I'm happy with the move, I get insane distances, which some is due in part to the Gliss, I'm a big fan, but the spool loading did help. 

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