bholtzinger14 Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 I have a 7 ft 1 in medium black casting rod I am looking to throw some shakey heads with. Do you think the owner ultrahead finesse ball head with its lighter wire hook or the Megastrike Shake2 EWG with the stouter hook would work better? Since I am using a medium power rod im not sure which would be better. Probably looking at 1/8 or 3/16 with either one I go with. My main concern is the hook. Will the medium power be too much for the owner ultrahead or will the medium power not be enough for the Megastrike? Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 16, 2017 Super User Posted March 16, 2017 In this case, I'd prefer the Shake2. 2 Quote
Super User MIbassyaker Posted March 16, 2017 Super User Posted March 16, 2017 I use them both and like them both a lot. The owner hooks are pretty light wire-- i use them on M and ML spinning rods exclusively. They come through cover very well, but don't stand up like the megastrike heads do. I use the owner is sort of an all-purpose light, weedless jigworm head. The megastrike I like specifically for shaking, and for making plastic craws stand up on bottom. 1 Quote
bholtzinger14 Posted March 16, 2017 Author Posted March 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, MIbassyaker said: I use them both and like them both a lot. The owner hooks are pretty light wire-- i use them on M and ML spinning rods exclusively. They come through cover very well, but don't stand up like the megastrike heads do. I use the owner is sort of an all-purpose light, weedless jigworm head. The megastrike I like specifically for shaking, and for making plastic craws stand up on bottom. Even though I said shakey head this will probably be used more as a weedless jigworm head like you said. Basically like a texas rig. Just figured it could be fished slow and even shakey head style when needed. I figured creature baits like rage king structure bugs, baby brush hogs, etc where standing up would be nice too. Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted March 17, 2017 Super User Posted March 17, 2017 i prefer the Owner Shakey Ultra Head over the Finesse ball head , as i like the longer hook ( 4/0 vs a 2/0 ) and definitely love the CPS bait keeper ! you'd be better off with the Ultra SledHead as it also has a 4/0 hook 5 Quote
Bobby Uhrig Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 I know a guy that uses these things . As for the Ewg that is a Mustad Ultra point /super line hook . It was designed to accommodate baits with big bulky bodies, one that need more gap such as creature baits and really shines used with swimbaits. They were designed to be fished with heavy line ,braid and big fish. The pro models are suited with mustad ultra point hooks ,real strong and not light wired . I have used light wire hooks in the past on other heads and have had my heart broken on big fish due to them opening up. I have no use for them what so ever. Once you learn the dynamics of these heads ,you can use them for so many applications ,flipping grass,heavy cover ,rip rap,and swimming baits. I am a fisherman just like you guys and have used everything out there. Just build a better mouse trap . 5 Quote
Super User fishballer06 Posted March 17, 2017 Super User Posted March 17, 2017 The Owner hook you show is not what I consider to be a Shakeyhead jig. I own some of these and they're great for texas rigging a Senko, but I would not use one for shakeyheads. Check out the Owner Ultrahead's if you want an Owner shakey jig. Like Bobby has mentioned about his Shake2 jigs, they're heavy duty/stout jigs. I'd feel comfortable using them on casting gear because of how heavy duty they are. They're very high quality and I enjoy using them. I definitely wouldn't recommend them with 6lb. line and a ML rod. 1 Quote
Bobby Uhrig Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 As for the light 6 lb test- i would use the 1/8 oz and 3/16 sizes- as I get into those EWGs and heavier shakey heads -I call that Power Shakn-as seen on the cover of Bassmasters a while back -The Mega strike head is on the cover in the right top corner.- Again use any brand you want Bholtz just giving insight to the EWG/heavier gauge hooks VS light wires. Oh what the heck throw these 2oz ers --hit the bass in the head -they float to the surface-get the net Quote
bholtzinger14 Posted March 17, 2017 Author Posted March 17, 2017 Bobby, Thanks for everything. I think I am going to get some EWG megastrikes to throw on my MH and do a little power Shakn ! @Bobby Uhrig Quote
Subaqua Adinterim Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 X2 for the Owner Ulta Shakey head recommendation. Love this with the Gary Y. mini craw Quote
Super User JustJames Posted March 17, 2017 Super User Posted March 17, 2017 I use 3/16 owner ultra ball head jig on my Zman stuff like zinkerz, thick worm 10" ribbon worm etc anything that float. I also plan to use 1/8 Megastrike on everything else that not float by itself. Quote
jamey1e Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 21 hours ago, Big Bait Fishing said: i prefer the Owner Shakey Ultra Head over the Finesse ball head , as i like the longer hook ( 4/0 vs a 2/0 ) and definitely love the CPS bait keeper ! you'd be better off with the Ultra SledHead as it also has a 4/0 hook I also prefer the Ultra Head. I'm not a fan of the megastrike shake2. I've tested them in my pool and they always fall over. That's on a smooth pool bottom also. A ball or football head stands a better chance of standing up. Quote
atcoha Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 I use both. Usually put a small creature on the megastrike in 20'+ water. They have some super sharp hooks, stand up good. I like the ball type with worms, and shallower water. Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted March 18, 2017 Super User Posted March 18, 2017 A vast collection of various styles/weights of jig heads will be far more helpful with catching bass than a vast collection of rods/reels... and considerably cheaper as well. oe 2 Quote
Airman4754 Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 The Megastrikes are extremely good quality and all I use anymore. They are a different animal than the light wire ball heads though. Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted March 18, 2017 Super User Posted March 18, 2017 On 3/17/2017 at 8:13 AM, fishballer06 said: The Owner hook you show is not what I consider to be a Shakeyhead jig. I own some of these and they're great for texas rigging a Senko, but I would not use one for shakeyheads. Check out the Owner Ultrahead's if you want an Owner shakey jig. Like Bobby has mentioned about his Shake2 jigs, they're heavy duty/stout jigs. I'd feel comfortable using them on casting gear because of how heavy duty they are. They're very high quality and I enjoy using them. I definitely wouldn't recommend them with 6lb. line and a ML rod. the hook i showed a picture of ( the Owner UltraSled head ) was more in reference to wanting to the OP using it for texas rigging .... Quote
Bobby Uhrig Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 On the lighter 1/8oz heads / they were deigned for very small profile baits . Larger baits will not stand up due to the simple hydrodynamic size or weights of the baits. Basically the larger baits are just overwhelmingly to big for such a light hook/ ratio . They can still be used in the original shakey head technique which was to present baits horizontally to the fish while the bait is up off the bottom . Remember ☆☆☆☆☆the original shakey technique is designed to keep the bait up off the bottom and catch suspended fish. Not to be fished as a bottom bouncing bait . Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted March 19, 2017 Super User Posted March 19, 2017 To a prior poster who mentioned that a vast collection of styles & weights of jig heads will be more helpful catching fish than a vast collection of rods & reels . . . it just ain't necessarily so. I own a vast collection of jig heads - to the point that it is impossible to fish every style of jig head I own over the course of a season. For more years than I care to post, every time I go to a fishing tackle store and they have home made jig heads in buckets near the cash register, I'm probably going to buy some if they are a unique design that I don't already have. (This is where I first found out about Mega Strike jig heads, a bait shot near Kentucky Lake had clones of the Mega Strike jig heads in bulk at the counter. The catch is different situations call for different jig heads and consequently that calls for different rods & reels. And so I buy them. Am I brainwashed? Or is it some inborn innate desire that makes some guys desire to own more gear than they need? And what is need anyway? Beats me, I just like to fish with different gear that I feel gives me a decent chance of success in each fishing situation. It is a vicious conundrum that obviously reflects a vast conspiracy between jig makers - fishing hook companies - rod builders - fishing reel conglomerates. There is an entire industry out there conspiring to acquire some of our disposable income. The industry understands that you can shear a sheep dozens of times, but you can only butcher them once. Quote
bholtzinger14 Posted March 20, 2017 Author Posted March 20, 2017 Thanks guys. I bought some Owner shakey heads and some Megastrikes. I plan to use the Owners on my medium setup and Megastrikes on my MH. Figured I would try them both out. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted March 20, 2017 Super User Posted March 20, 2017 If your medium power rod has an extra-fast tip, you'll have no problem at all with hook-sets. With respect to jigheads, I prefer and often use the Owner ballhead jig. Roger Quote
BassThumb Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 I see it's already been mentioned, but give these a shot: the Owner Shakey Ultrahead. They're my favorites, followed by the Picasso tungsten heads, MegaStrike, and the good 'ol Spot Remover. Quote
bholtzinger14 Posted March 21, 2017 Author Posted March 21, 2017 @BassThumb I picked some of these up and tried them Sunday morning. No bites, but I was only out about 2 hours. Quote
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