Mjmj Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 Is it possible to throw a Ned rig with a baitcaster? If so what rod and reel would be suitable for this? Quote
Mjmj Posted March 16, 2017 Author Posted March 16, 2017 Is it possible to throw a Ned rig with a baitcaster? If so what rod and reel would be suitable for this? Quote
Big-Bass Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 A true Ned Rig (1/16oz. head with the bait) would be tough unless you are using a Daiwa SV spool and/or a specific BFS rod and reel. Spinning tackle is much easier overall unless you want to spend extra money on a very specific light line/presentation bait caster. If you choose a heavier mushroom head, you defeat the purpose of the Ned Rig. I hope this helps. 1 Quote
bigturtle Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 yes it is. You want a reel with a super shallow spool, a cheap one would run you about $150 A light baitcast rod may be hard to find in the US but easy find in Japan, probably run you $100-150 for a decent one. Quote
Super User DogBone_384 Posted March 16, 2017 Super User Posted March 16, 2017 I have a Diawa Pixy68 on a 6'10" *** ML/F. It tosses Neds a mile. I'm pretty sure any quality (and/or tuned) reel on a ML castine rod with some whip to it would work just as well. 1 Quote
FrankN209 Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 I have my Steez SV TW on a 6'10" ML rod and can throw ned rigs all day long Quote
Super User fishnkamp Posted March 16, 2017 Super User Posted March 16, 2017 Spinning reels were made to cover techniques that use super light finesse baits. Match a good light reel up with a super sensitive rod and you have a great combo. Quote
Super User Angry John Posted March 16, 2017 Super User Posted March 16, 2017 YES you can, but not for less money. Be prepared to spend double for the same quality of setup. Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted March 16, 2017 Super User Posted March 16, 2017 I use Shimano Curado 70 and Daiwa SV105 reels. I use Medium Light powered rods 6'9" & 7'6". With these combos throwing 1/20 TRD's is easily accomplished. Quote
Super User Raul Posted March 16, 2017 Super User Posted March 16, 2017 Of course it is possible, any decent baitcaster can throw that sucker with the right line and the right rod. Quote
tander Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 I sure you can do it but a spinning rod with light line is so much better, Quote
Super User RoLo Posted March 16, 2017 Super User Posted March 16, 2017 The standard mushroom jig for a Ned Rig weighs 1/16 oz. If you're using a Med-Hvy casting rod, you'll have to settle for 25-ft casts. Roger Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted March 16, 2017 Super User Posted March 16, 2017 Yes, it's possible with the right setup. For me that setup was a light power casting rod with a Daiwa Tdz that had a shallow bfs spool in it, and I had it spooled with #6 sunline mono. They weigh more than most people realize BUT the technique tends to work better with a spinning combo. Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted March 16, 2017 Super User Posted March 16, 2017 15 hours ago, RoLo said: The standard mushroom jig for a Ned Rig weighs 1/16 oz. If you're using a Med-Hvy casting rod, you'll have to settle for 25-ft casts. Roger My kids were wide-eyed and curious at me just now. I went out in the cold to find out what is possible. I used 1/20 trd a 50E reel with one green brake and 20 pound braid on a 7' MH/F Shimano Crucial1/4-1oz lure rated rod. Easily 3 times the amount highlighted. These TRD's are small compact aero dense baits not airy like say shad raps 1 Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted March 16, 2017 Super User Posted March 16, 2017 I agree with all the other folks that it can be done but at a much higher cost than a comparable spinning rig. That little cigar bait will be pretty aerodynamic for the most part with a finesse casting reel and a L or ML rod. You can probably find a ML or L casting rod for a reasonable price (Major Craft makes some great rods in this size) but a reel will run you a bit more as you will need something in finesse form stock or able to accept a finesse spool. Quote
IndianaFinesse Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 You can, but why spend 10× the amount of a spinning combo on a high end baitcaster? I would recommend using a spinning rod instead, a cheap medium lite powered fast action rod between 6'-7'. You don't need sensitivity for the ned, since you are using a no-feel retrieve. I used to use an ml/f 6'10" Abu Garcia villain for my ned rod, but now I have switched over to a medium powered (it fishes like a medium lite) fast action 6'6" vortex. I prefer the vortex over the villian (for the ned rig, not other techniques), even though the villain retails for $200 and the vortex only cost $13. Quote
Yudo1 Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 I use an alphas sv on a medium/light rod. I prefer casting reels for everything except drop shots and live bait. 1 Quote
OCdockskipper Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 Yes you can. You can also use a lawn mower to cut a hedge, a high heel shoe to drive a nail and a fork to eat ice cream. 3 Quote
Super User RoLo Posted March 16, 2017 Super User Posted March 16, 2017 3 hours ago, QUAKEnSHAKE said: My kids were wide-eyed and curious at me just now. I went out in the cold to find out what is possible. I used 1/20 trd a 50E reel with one green brake and 20 pound braid on a 7' MH/F Shimano Crucial1/4-1oz lure rated rod. Easily 3 times the amount highlighted. These TRD's are small compact areo dense baits not airy like say shad raps Wow...that's a moonshot Roger Quote
offsidewing Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 Yes you can and there is nothing wrong with it. Understand you need a baitcaster with a lightweight spool to effectively cast the light ned rig. Those are pricey. Then you'll want a ML rod with a fast or Xfast tip. Again, that is not an entry level rod in the baitcasting world. While I don't have any "BFS" enthusiast gear, I do enjoy casting a 1/6oz Ned Rig on baitcasting gear, especially for smallmouth in deep water. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted March 16, 2017 Super User Posted March 16, 2017 So converted to oz. for those of us use to thinking that way, then I should have no trouble casting a 1/16 head and TRD Worm as it weighs a bit more than the 3/16 oz. Shad Raps I can cast a pretty good distance on several rod/reel combos. Always provided the 3/16 oz. Shad Rap in fact weighs 3/16 oz. and not something heavier. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted March 16, 2017 Super User Posted March 16, 2017 rippin-lips posted some weights in the other thread. From what I see, the 1/16 Head and TRD Worm total .219 oz. So a bit over 3/16 oz. Provided a 3/16 oz. Shad Rap does weigh 3/16 oz. and not more, then there is no reason to spend 10 times the cost of a spinning combo to be able to cast that weight with a casting rod. Might cost a bit more than a spinning outfit, but not a lot. I bought a couple refurbished Carbonlites (the gold ones). No problem throwing #5 Shad Raps (3/16 oz.) $65 each. I want to try my Black Max 1600C with that weight. Have a feeling it will also cast that weight. Cost: $33.33 each. I will tell you up front that there are quite a few guys here that are much better than I am with a baitcast reel. I was an old fart before ever using my first one. Quote
Fishinthefish Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 1/16th with a medium light built by a custom builder. Shimano core 51. I throw it all day with no problem. You'd be surprised what a ned rig actually weighs once the plastics are on 1 Quote
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