Yo-Zuri Hybrid Line Users ?

[ChrisD46]

I bought a spool of Yo-Zuri  Hybrid #12lb. test to try for lipless crankbaits (on the advice of a few users) on a bait cast outfit .My first question is Yo-Zuri Hybrid #12lb. strong enough to use for spinner baits , chatter baits and swim jigs ?  My second question is whether Yo-Zuri Hybrid #12lb. can be used for top water applications ? With a composition of 50% Nylon and 50% FC I would want to know if Yo-Zuri Hybrid  is a sinking line or does it float ? Thanks in advance ...

[Darren.]

16 minutes ago, ChrisD46 said:

I bought a spool of Yo-Zuri  Hybrid #12lb. test to try for lipless crankbaits (on the advice of a few users) on a bait cast outfit .My first question is Yo-Zuri Hybrid #12lb. strong enough to use for spinner baits , chatter baits and swim jigs ?  My second question is whether Yo-Zuri Hybrid #12lb. can be used for top water applications ? With a composition of 50% Nylon and 50% FC I would want to know if Yo-Zuri Hybrid  is a sinking line or does it float ? Thanks in advance ...

 

It's ridiculously strong for its line rating, so no worries.

And I believe it's neutrally buoyant, fine for topwater.

If left on the surface, it'll float. Break surface tension

and it'll sloooowly drop.

[roadwarrior]

#12 has a breaking strength of 19.5 lbs and can be use as an "all-around" line for baitcasters.

The line floats as a result of surface tension, not like a bobber.  This has NO impact on any 

presentation, topwater is fine.

 

I HIGHLY recommend treating the Hybrid with KVD Line & Lure Conditioner.

 

[Choporoz]

1 hour ago, roadwarrior said:

I HIGHLY recommend treating the Hybrid with KVD Line & Lure Conditioner.

 

+1

 

As to OP q: "is....strong enough..?"

 

I have 12# YZ on my lipless/med cranking rod: didn't have to respool once last year...a heavy fishing year....that 12# line landed a 40# flathead, a foulhooked 18# carp, many 7-12# flatheads.....not to mention an awful lot of bass.  That line simply does not break. 

 

Now, as to using it for chatterbaits and spinnerbaits....I've gone to mostly braid for those....the YZ will stretch enough to make me blame the line for missed fish on moving single hooks   But, if you've got relatively fast rod, it does work pretty well for those, too. 

[wdp]

I've been thinking about giving YZ hybrid another shot. I used it over a decade ago & didn't care for it at the time. 

 

What type of knot do you guys use? Does the line work well with a palomar?

[Fishin' Fool]

12 minutes ago, wdp said:

I've been thinking about giving YZ hybrid another shot. I used it over a decade ago & didn't care for it at the time. 

 

What type of knot do you guys use? Does the line work well with a palomar?

 

I tried it but I didn't like it.  Maybe because I didn't use line conditioner it seemed to have a lot of memory.  

[Choporoz]

With YZ, I use only SD Jam -- My wife uses only improved clinch....never had any problem with either

[georgeyew]

1 hour ago, wdp said:

What type of knot do you guys use? Does the line work well with a palomar?

 

I use the Palomar with my Yo-Zuri and don't have issues with break offs.

[wdp]

So, does the YZ hybrid still have a lot of memory issues or has it improved some over the last 10 yrs? That was my biggest complaint when I tried it. Plus, I kept have issues with line breakage at knots, but seems like I used a normal cinch knot, like I would with mono. 

 

But this really was about a decade ago. I picked up the 12 lb YZ hybrid at Wally World in a green, large spool for pretty cheap. Think I still got some & I just use it for backing now. They may have improved/changed the formulation since then. Looks like all TW carries is the clear color. 

[Choporoz]

@wdp,

   The issued you mentioned are, indeed, still tradeoffs. 

While worth it to me...I fully understand why they wouldn't be for others.

 

I use KVD L&L every day.  From my perspective, it completely eliminates the memory issues.  The line will become brittle when kinked hard.  Slobbered, careful terminal knots have never been a problem for me.  However, I can get issues on certain leader knots, or on backlashes that get kinked. 

[wdp]

23 minutes ago, Choporoz said:

@wdp,

   The issued you mentioned are, indeed, still tradeoffs. 

While worth it to me...I fully understand why they wouldn't be for others.

 

I use KVD L&L every day.  From my perspective, it completely eliminates the memory issues.  The line will become brittle when kinked hard.  Slobbered, careful terminal knots have never been a problem for me.  However, I can get issues on certain leader knots, or on backlashes that get kinked. 

Appreciate the info. At one time I used KVD line conditioner liberally for a lot of my fluoro set ups. In recent years, it seems fluoro has gotten better & more manageable. Still got half a bottle of it I can use. May give YZ another shot at some point. 

[roadwarrior]

Nah...

 

Most guys like Yo-Zuri, but some don't. The line has not changed. If you did not like it then,

you won't like it now.

 

[flyfisher]

I am a fan and as others have stated, the breaking strength is higher than it's rating.  I have been using it in 6lb for my spinning rod setup used mainly for shaky heads and i have 15lb on moving bait and texas rig rods.  I have zero complaints.  I also will say use the line conditioner. I am not sure what it would be like without it because i have always used it but line management has never been an issue.

[wdp]

1 hour ago, roadwarrior said:

Nah...

 

Most guys like Yo-Zuri, but some don't. The line has not changed. If you did not like it then,

you won't like it now.

 

10-4

[offsidewing]

Yo-Zuri is good stuff.  Make sure you go by line diameter with them.  Their magic 6lb test is the same line diameter as many 10lb monos.  

[GreenGhostMan]

I just started using yo zuri hybrid in 12# and really like it.  Plan on buying some 15# from TW soon.  I tried using fluorocarbon on my texas rig rod, but am going to swap it out for the 15# yo zuri.

[Montanaro]

Used 8 pound for first time on my tdz/steez combo recently.

 

Casting 3/8oz jigs to heavy heavy wood cover and brought in a 5 pounder no problem from the thick stuff.  The 8lb is rated to like 13 pounds.

 

No KVDLL and it casts like a dream.

[Rbm18]

I use it for pretty much everything except frogs (I use braid) . I actually just picked up 4 spools of it on sale at wal mart for $5 a spool. 

[Choporoz]

30 minutes ago, GreenGhostMan said:

I just started using yo zuri hybrid in 12# and really like it.  Plan on buying some 15# from TW soon.  I tried using fluorocarbon on my texas rig rod, but am going to swap it out for the 15# yo zuri.

I am a big YZ fan, but I don't use any over 12# any more.   The issues with memory and line management are no longer mitigated by line conditioner with 15#.  I should think you would do fine with your 12#.   I use that, or more likely, braid, for trigs and jigs.

[Grantman83]

I use 12 for most all purpose stuff.  I must not fill my spool enough cause I think it's just fine when casting.  Never used line conditioner with it

[CTBassin860]

14 hours ago, roadwarrior said:

#12 has a breaking strength of 19.5 lbs and can be use as an "all-around" line for baitcasters.

The line floats as a result of surface tension, not like a bobber.  This has NO impact on any 

presentation, topwater is fine.

 

I HIGHLY recommend treating the Hybrid with KVD Line & Lure Conditioner.

 

Line has a better memory than me! I have 12# on my jig rod.Good stuff. X2 on the line conditioner

[Robert Riley]

Great breaking strength. I used 10# for cranking for awhile, I like it, but I figured I'd just try something new. May pick it up again for my spinning reel.

[GreenGhostMan]

13 hours ago, Choporoz said:

I am a big YZ fan, but I don't use any over 12# any more.   The issues with memory and line management are no longer mitigated by line conditioner with 15#.  I should think you would do fine with your 12#.   I use that, or more likely, braid, for trigs and jigs.

 

Thanks for the tip.  Didn't know that about the 15#.

[CTBassin860]

I use a double wrapped palomar aka the nanofil knot.Ive never had that knot fail.

[ChrisD46]

Thanks for the replies - quite a jump in line diameter when going from #12lb. to #15lb. so I believe #12lb. is the best all around size for a bait caster set up .