Unfortunate incident with fellow angler.

[Clinton john]

You Sir are correct its that good manners aren't being taught at home in the growing up years.

 

Heck I'm only 36 and can say with out a doubt I'm not old but I was raised in a strict house hold ran with manners and a firm butt whoopin if you were rude or disrespecful.

 

And it's a shame to say this but I have meet very very few people my age or youger that knew what manners are, to many years of being told they are snow flakes and special is their problem.

[J Francho]

It's neither.  People have grown up learning to be selfish, thinking of no one but themselves.  Selflessness, even just quiet, unassuming fishing etiquette has all but disappeared.  There's no payoff, no selfie, no proclamation via a clever internet meme to claim glory for selflessness, because that isn't selfless at all.

[A-Jay]

35 minutes ago, J Francho said:

It's neither.  People have grown up learning to be selfish, thinking of no one but themselves.  Selflessness, even just quiet, unassuming fishing etiquette has all but disappeared.  There's no payoff, no selfie, no proclamation via a clever internet meme to claim glory for selflessness, because that isn't selfless at all.

 

My Grandfather - a particularly proud & amazing Man, displayed the confidence, pride & inner strength that comes from being a truly good man & living a good life.    Didn't understand it really as a younger human, just knew it was there.  As time went on I came to admire it. 

The man had little to say but when he was inclined to pass something on, he chose his words wisely and he meant every one.   I listened.

The term Good Man, has virtually no meaning now; is of considerably less importance, and may be seeing very few men striving to be one.

In fact the term Man itself, one could argue is not nearly as defined as it once was.  Sort of like a completed pass in the NFL -

A-Jay

 

[okietroutbum]

Ive found that waving a firearm in their general direction gets better manners out of them... j/k but some days i wish. Most of the time i just tell them theyre number one and move to a different spot.

[Bobby Uhrig]

Oh please let Glenn roll up on me

[rboat]

This does happen way too much, with me it is normally some tool on a jet ski trying to show off, or a giant boat coming close and causing huge ways to crash over my deck. I always conceal carry, but brandishing a gun my just get you killed. I write down the numbers on their vessel and have the G & F office on speed dial. When I call, they take down all the information on the unsafe boater, description, where, when, etc. I do not know if they actually do anything, but it makes me feel better.

[Bobby Uhrig]

If gene rolls up on me taking my spot

Ok enough fun on my part - What we all seem to agree on here at Bass Resource is what this angler did was wrong and very inconsiderate. How we as fellow anglers deal with it is pretty much how we deal with stuff in life. its what makes the world go round. There are 2 points here for me to make 

1 It sounds like none of us here at BR would be as inconsiderate as this guy ,which shows how much of a class act Glenn has as members here.

2.Well ok I dont have a second point 

[Bobby Uhrig]

Boy I  miss this place- 

 

[S Hovanec]

I think I would have accidentally put the boat in gear with the motor trimmed up and gave them an outboard shower as I was leaving.

[jamey1e]

12 hours ago, A-Jay said:

 

My Grandfather - a particularly proud & amazing Man, displayed the confidence, pride & inner strength that comes from being a truly good man & living a good life.    Didn't understand it really as a younger human, just knew it was there.  As time went on I came to admire it. 

The man had little to say but when he was inclined to pass something on, he chose his words wisely and he meant every one.   I listened.

The term Good Man, has virtually no meaning now; is of considerably less importance, and may be seeing very few men striving to be one.

In fact the term Man itself, one could argue is not nearly as defined as it once was.  Sort of like a completed pass in the NFL -

A-Jay

 

That's the absolute truth.  One thing I used to think was that fellow anglers and hunters were like minded "good men".  However I've since learned that's not the case. 

[Last_Cast]

Just reading that ticked me off. People are really something else.

[SneakyPete]

Today, I had a guy purposely out gain me to get in front of me so he could pull out his boat ahead of me.  It was a day of idiots.  Cars with no trailers and kayakers parking their vehicles in the designated trailer parking lot.

[A-Jay]

7 hours ago, SneakyPete said:

Today, I had a guy purposely out gain me to get in front of me so he could pull out his boat ahead of me. 

 

As I see it, The Best place for this fine human to be Is In Front of me; both on the road & on the water.

 This gives ME all the control, and almost eliminates his opportunity to jack up me or my gear; because we both know he's almost certainly going to try, eventually.  

Once 'The Jack Wagon Syndrome' has been recognized, my standard defense is to simply slow down and then smile & wave as the 'accident waiting to happen' goes on by.  Then it's just a matter of sitting back, waiting & watching as the insanity ensues. 

Usually doesn't take long.

A-Jay

[whitwolf]

This type of thing Is the exact reason why I do my best to fish when there are few others. Of course there are times when that Is not possible and in that situation  I do my best to be Invisible. By that I mean fish In places that are difficult to get into or at the very least find the nastiest stuff I can fish, put my head down and mind my own business. In the event someone shows his hind end I smile, wave, pull up stakes and go elsewhere. 

 

In the Summer It's easy to get away(Fish at night) from the crowds and In the Fall the deer hunters cut the lake population In half. In the Spring I deal with the crowds in the stated ways above and refuse to fish for bedding fish. 

 

In the end the good folks far outweigh the bad and realizing there will be turds In all walks of life makes It simpler to be polite, let them have their way, and avoid as many as possible(anglers in general) to do something I love to do.

 

As for AJ'S comment of the watering down on "goodness" In the gene pool, he's correct but with a caveat; If you read/post here long enough you get to see good men and sportsman on a regular basis.  

[iiTzChunky]

My buddy has a privet lake by his house (not his) that he's been fishing for 2+ years and never had a problem. We go there just for fun all catch and release. Last weekend a teenage kid was there with his gf and just so happened to be right where my buddy had caught a 7#er a few day prior. He had it dead set he was going back to that place to fish it again and basically fished right on top of the kid... Well the kid called his dad and his dad came and kicked us out. We went to the other side of the lake and got problems from one of the home owners actually on the lake. Seems the dad had called him and asked him to kick us out. Was pretty crappie move on my buddies part. I know that place is full of some nice sized bass and now we're kicked out for a while till things hopefully cool off. 

[scaleface]

A lot of people are new to boating / fishing some people are just rude .I'm sure I made some people upset when I first started out .  

 

 One day in particular I was catching  bass on a shallow rock hump that is "plainly" marked with buoys  . Here comes a bass boat on plane straight for it . I'm standing in the bow waving my arms trying to get his attention so he doesnt tear his transom off . He stops at the last possible moment creating a huge wake  and idles on top of the hump , precisely where I am casting , then shuts his motor off . He then looks at me and  ask what I wanted .  When I tell him about the rocks he  said " I know , I hit it yesterday. I just want to see what is here . " LOL.     Either he  was new to boating/fishing or a moron .

[TnRiver46]

Sounds like the OP was fishing the Tennessee river......... I get cut off by bass boats almost every single time I go fishing, which is several times a week. I know that a lot of kids nowadays are jerks but the people that cut me off are generally older guys that can afford bass boats with power poles. So saying that kids nowadays have no respect is not necessarily the problem in my neck of the woods 

[Jcost2131]

It's amazing how people just can't control themselves and their ego. You absolutely did the right thing and it's unfortunate that people out there have to ruin the great sport of fishing for others. People get so caught up in things they don't realize fishing is meant to be fun. Tight lines and I respect you keeping your cool in that situation. 

[Brown Town]

That's why I always keep one of my muskie set ups on the deck with the biggest topwaters or Bulldawgs I can find. If I see guys coming up the bank quick and think they are trying to get in front of me I start fan casting with the muskie set up. After 2-3 loud splashes they usually look up and back off or go around me with a lot of space. Not saying I cast at them but usually the noise of the lure hitting the water is enough to scare guys into getting too close.

[Coldbasser]

Capital A holes are by there very nature cowards, I was fortunate to have played hockey for a living & still have all my own teeth. Lol that = I let my hands do my talking that said you did the right thing after all it's fishing.

Cheers

Fred

[BassnChris]

On March 12, 2017 at 9:06 PM, A-Jay said:

 

When a grown man makes a conscious decision to conduct himself in a certain manner In Public, there can be no expectation of privacy.

So documenting & sharing the experience is perfectly acceptable - at least in my book.

Conversely, I have no problem with anyone documenting anything I do in public,  all I ask is that they kindly refrain from including GPS coordinates.

There's no shame in that.

A-Jay

 

I run 2 GoPro cameras on my boat.....not for that reason....but it would be a bonus.

 

They run constantly recording in a 5 minute loop.......if that happens to me, I would let them rant for about 4 minutes and the casually walk over to the camera and press the shutter button twice....that saves the last 5 minutes of video and restarts the recording....in case there was a round 2 ?

 

Like I said, just a bonus.....I have the camera to make pics of our catches and record funny things that happen on while out on the water with family and friends.....and some not so funny things like losing a trolling motor.

 

you did the right thing.

[Montanaro]

Last weekend at a electric only lake I launched and put TM down and kicked it on high to a small rocky point.  There was a kayaker fishing with his young son in another kayak that started heading to that bank fishing towars point but I was already past halfway there before i realized their intent.  I got there and apologized saying i didnt mean to.  Guy said it was no biggie and there was plenty of lake.

 

 

As for guys rushing to load up their boat...2 years ago my dad said a guy did just that and jumped ahead of him....my dad loads up and about 3 miles down the road this jackass dumped his boat on the blacktop!!!

[Hez]

4 minutes ago, Montanaro said:

a guy did just that and jumped ahead of him....my dad loads up and about 3 miles down the road this jackass dumped his boat on the blacktop!!!

 

Karma at it's finest

[BassNJake]

Props to everyone that has been able to walk away from idiots on the water.

 

I learned my lesson the hard way because I am that guy.

The guy that wasnt taking any more of this BS.

The guy that picked up a DT 10 and bounced it off the shiny new ranger that cut in front of me and started fishing all the way in the back of a cove.

The guy that threatened to fight these 2 inconsiderate jerks, the guy that motored right in front of them and harassed them until they left.

 

Then I was the guy at the boat ramp that had all 4 tires slashed on the truck and 5 more on the trailer.( they cut up the spare too)

 

Did these 2 idiots get their Karma? I'll never know.

I know I got mine for the way that I behaved.

 

 

 

[TOXIC]

Let me just add that the rudeness exhibited by the weekend angler, fun fisherman, and tournament angler is not absent from the highest level of the hobby/sport we all enjoy.  I give a pass to anyone who appears not to know that they have crossed an invisible line that most fishermen and women know.  If they don't have a clue, then I'll educate them in a nice way so that the next time they know where that line is.  I made it a point to educate anyone who was in my boat on a guide trip as well.  With that being said, I attribute the general rudeness from those that KNOW where that line is to the example that filters down from the Elite level to those who consider themselves a tournament angler or a fan of the sport.  Just look at the televised confrontations in the FLW or Elite Series from the "Professionals".  Off the top of my head I can name a host of anglers who have had on the water beefs.  VanDam, Iconelli, Scott Martin, Biffle, Ish, that crazy dude that ran circles around anothers boat, Duckett and on and on.  I can relate a very personal experience where an Elite Series pro almost got his butt whipped by some personal friends of mine during a confrontation where they were 100% not at fault.  What kind of example do they set for those who follow the sport closely like the college anglers (who are super passionate) and the weekend series or open series fishermen?  What makes for interesting TV is influencing the lower levels of the sport.  Yes, crowded waterways don't help but my point is that it's not just a problem at the lower levels.