Lonnie Clemens Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 Hi Folks, Tomorrow morning I will be purchasing a Lowe 3210 Jon boat. It is 10 feet long and the bottom measurement is 32'' wide. Weight capacity is 275 lbs or two 180 lbs people. I weigh 200 lbs. Will be powering this boat with a Minn Kota 40# trolling motor. Trying my best to keep the weight of accessories down. Just looked at a class 27 Marine battery and it weighs 54 lbs. This is the recommended battery size for my trolling motor. Walmart sells a smaller size marine battery for $59.00. It is 3/4 size of the class 27 battery. Looks like it might be a better choice because of the weight issue. I could buy two of those $59.00 batteries and keep one in the truck while out on the boat. Could switch them out if I had too. I wonder what battery people are using on their kayaks, canoes, and other small craft. Any thoughts or suggestions? Quote
Super User Way2slow Posted March 11, 2017 Super User Posted March 11, 2017 The next normal size deep cycle battery down from a group 27 is a group 24. Understand one thing about flooded cell batteries or most all lead acid batteries, weight equals run time. The lighter the battery, the less runtime you are going to have. It takes the lead plates to create energy, the less lead, the less weight and the less runtime. The group size is just the size of the case, it has nothing to do with how many plates are actually inside. A cheap group 27 may not have any more plates or runtime than a high quality group 24 and they will weigh about the same. You can get a little lighter by getting an AGM because they have less water also. Anything lighter than AGM is going to be in the newer technology batteries like the LiPo's and then you get real deep into your pockets. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted March 11, 2017 Super User Posted March 11, 2017 Seriously rethink the boat size, L4010, 40" wide will be more stable and safer for you. Tom 1 Quote
Lonnie Clemens Posted March 12, 2017 Author Posted March 12, 2017 Thank you Way2slow 8 hours ago, WRB said: Seriously rethink the boat size, L4010, 40" wide will be more stable and safer for you. Tom You might be right Tom. Was planning on buying a boat this morning. But came home empty handed. Decided to put the purchase off because I want to think it over. I like taking family and friends out for boat rides. Wouldn't be able to do that with a Lowe 3210. Quote
Super User slonezp Posted March 12, 2017 Super User Posted March 12, 2017 If you are going to have others with you, get a boat with a 48" bottom 1 Quote
Lonnie Clemens Posted March 12, 2017 Author Posted March 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, slonezp said: If you are going to have others with you, get a boat with a 48" bottom Will consider that Slonezp. Quote
Super User fishnkamp Posted March 12, 2017 Super User Posted March 12, 2017 Lets start this thought process a little differently. Here are some questions to ask yourself. 1 What type of water am I going to fish? Is it electric only ponds and lakes? Maybe small creeks to mid sized slow running rivers. 2 Instead of this will I be fishing bigger gas lakes? 3 How often will there be 2 adults and a kid or 3 adults? 4 Ultimately will a trolling motor and 2 group 27 batteries be needed or will I need or want a small gas engine. 5. Can I tow with one of my vehicles or will this have to be a roof top boat? 6. What is my real honest budget, and can I spend some research time and find a good used boat/trailer /motor combo. Please answer these questions for yourself but also for us too. Slonezp, myself and many more of the members are happy to help you spend your money Actually we are most interested in seeing you spend your money wisely. Most of us have owned a bunch of boats and understand what will work best for your type of water. A good example is the used boat slonezp recently found for less than $1000. By the way that was a great find for sure. He has one bad*** Lund bass boat for the big waters. This is a great second boat to put around small bodies of water. 2 Quote
Super User Way2slow Posted March 12, 2017 Super User Posted March 12, 2017 I use a 1232 a lot with me and my son (but he's 43) hauling it in a pickup fishing Resaca's in south Texas but not sure I would care to use one with smaller children. As for a 1032, I would not get in it, even by myself. As for a 1436, I use that in the rivers and larger ponds but my wife does not like it when we use it. If I have the 25 merc on it with her in it, I have to go about half throttle. it's not stable enough for her nerves, and she's not a big woman. 1 Quote
Lonnie Clemens Posted March 12, 2017 Author Posted March 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, Way2slow said: I use a 1232 a lot with me and my son (but he's 43) hauling it in a pickup fishing Resaca's in south Texas but not sure I would care to use one with smaller children. As for a 1032, I would not get in it, even by myself. As for a 1436, I use that in the rivers and larger ponds but my wife does not like it when we use it. If I have the 25 merc on it with her in it, I have to go about half throttle. it's not stable enough for her nerves, and she's not a big woman. I know about the scaring the wife on a boat ride experience. Quote
Super User fishnkamp Posted March 12, 2017 Super User Posted March 12, 2017 Here are perhaps some better ideas. You did not say where you live but I just did a few minutes of poking around. Where do you live? This is a 14 foot wide bodied semi vee hull. These are usually pretty stabile and cut waves pretty good. they are designed to fish comfortably sitting down. This complete combo was being sold for $1700 with the 9.5 hp outboard. This boat says it has is 14 foot long and can sit four. It is probably a 1448 and is being sold for $1500 with the gas engine. These are just a few options 2 Quote
Lonnie Clemens Posted March 12, 2017 Author Posted March 12, 2017 Hi Fishnkamp, I live in Springfield, Illinois. Wish I lived closer to you. Would take one of those boats. I like the 14 foot with the 9.9. All of them are ideal. Thank you for sharing. Quote
Super User slonezp Posted March 12, 2017 Super User Posted March 12, 2017 15 minutes ago, Lonnie Clemens said: Hi Fishnkamp, I live in Springfield, Illinois. Wish I lived closer to you. Would take one of those boats. I like the 14 foot with the 9.9. All of them are ideal. Thank you for sharing. I'm in northern IL. My best advice is check craigslist everyday and if there are any internet fishing forums local to Springfield, join them as well. I drove 3 hours to pick up the small Lund in the picture that @fishnkamp posted, after I saw the listing on craigslist. Good deals are there to find but you need to be ready to act, because they disappear quick. As you can see we'd all hate to see you get into that small jon and be unhappy with it. Apparently you have a wife and if that's you in the avatar, a kid as well. I wouldn't go any smaller than a 1448 if there's a chance that either of them will be joining you on the water. Be patient and keep your eyes and ears open. If I run across anything that looks decent in the Chicago area, I'll let you know if I think the long drive might be worth it. Assuming you want to be under $1000??? $1500??? $2000??? 1 Quote
Super User fishnkamp Posted March 12, 2017 Super User Posted March 12, 2017 Check these out near you. https://springfieldil.craigslist.org/boa/6038075822.html They want $1500 https://springfieldil.craigslist.org/boa/6009854633.html https://stlouis.craigslist.org/boa/6009102504.html https://stlouis.craigslist.org/boa/5997601480.html Thes are all potentially good deals. They were all found in Craigslist Springfield Illinois and in the "nearby" listings just below them. 1 Quote
Super User fishnkamp Posted March 12, 2017 Super User Posted March 12, 2017 Here is a deal on a boat only but if you can find a used trailer might work out good. he only wants $450 for it. https://bn.craigslist.org/boa/6038945634.html 2 Quote
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