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11 hours ago, OCdockskipper said:

Ned Rig.

 

And apparently Scott F is an angry elf today... :D

Not just today...

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Posted
9 hours ago, RMax said:

I've tried this a few times lately with no success. Any tips on what/when/how to use?

Anytime you would cast and slowly drag a drop shot rig. When the bass are holding on or near the bottom and less active the slip shot rig is ideal. I rig this using a 1/8 oz mojo style cylinder weight, Carolina stopper, glass bead and Owner 5133 size 1/0 hook, weedless skin hooked 4 1/2 to 6" straight or curl tail Roboworms and Iovino finesse worm. The weight is usually between 18" to 30" depending on what the bass react to. Spinning tackle with 6lb to 8 lb Sunline natural mono line. FC is OK but tends to sink on the bottom.

Roboworm in oxblood red flake, MMIII and baitball, Iovino Smallmouth killer.

If I was fishing MLF this would be my go to rig during slow period ounce I knew what depth the bass are at.

You can work this rig up hill, paralell, down hill and slowly drag it along breaks or in sparse cover.  The only down side is learning to set the hook before the bass swallow the weightless worm, don't hesitate too long!

Tom

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Posted
12 hours ago, WRB said:

Slip shot rig, use it for 40 years and going strong.

Tom

I've read some of your previous posts regarding this rig and I'm very eager to try it out this spring. Fishing from shore, I'm not trusting the drop shot method because of the angles working against me no matter how long my leader is. Drop shot works more effectively when I'm fishing vertically from my yak. The highly pressued bass I pursue will likely fall victim to this type of finesse fishing....plus I have tons of 4.5" Roboworms  and Zoom finesse worms to accommodate. Love those Gama Roboworm hooks too!!!

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I wouldnt do any of the ones listed , never have before .  I'm not into  finesse  . I would go with a smaller texas rig . 

Posted

Up here in New Hampshire, I have a preference and a bit of a saying to go with it.

"Once you go Wacky, you never go backy"

:D

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Posted
2 hours ago, Jeff H said:

Not just today...

maybe...but I'm with Scott....it takes a LOT of restraint for me to keep from posting as he did....too often, I don't have enough to prevent it....

 

It is hard not to point out inanity in a forum you care about...and doesn't seem like too much to ask to tweak a thread just a little to make it more informative or productive......and, BTW....Get off of my lawn

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The regular drop shot works really well, but it's also super versatile.  You can put a paddle tail on a drop shot rig and fish it like a swim bait.  When fish are suspending off the bottom in deep water, you can also use a long leader and fish a drop shot like a senko.

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Posted

Pucker Shot ~

You'll need special fishing pants for this one.

:D

A-Jay

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Posted

I will defend the OP.

 

I interpret the question as a hypothetical -- if you had to pick one finesse technique, what would it be?

 

Is this a realistic literal scenario anybody would plausibly deal with? Probably not. I understand the frustration with discussions of implausible things. But I do not share that frustration.

 

Is it a dumb question? I say no.

 

Granting the premise, it asks you to consider what would you consider the most essential finesse presentation for your purposes, whatever those purposes are (e.g., enjoyment, challenge, tournament success, whatever).  The answer you give carries combined information about your perception of a rig's' versatility, its effectiveness, and your confidence using it where you fish, and your preference for particular kinds of presentations. This is may be, but is not guaranteed to be, the same as your favorite rig or most used rig. In other words, the question asks for a combination of things rolled into one answer that there is no other direct way to ask about.

 

Whether your answer is useful to anybody is another issue, but that's hardly unique to this question.

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great thread.

 

for fun:

ill go with a 3/16oz skirted jig and a 3" craw trailer if that is finesse.

if not, 4" zoom lizard on a 1/16oz jighead with offset hook 

 

for numbers:

not sure if id go with ned rig (TRD, mushroom jighead) or a wacky zoom finesse worm

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Posted
20 hours ago, IndianaFinesse said:

Half of a zinkerz on a 1/16 ounce mushroom head, although I am really starting to like the owner 1/8 ounce shaky head with a finesse trick worm.

 

Agree on the first part, but my second choice would be a 1/16oz Keitech shaky head jig with a 3.8" Sexy Impact.  It seems to catch as well as the Ned, but works far better when you want a weedless presentation.  However, it completely disregards the "frugality" aspect of the MWF system.  

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Posted
22 hours ago, WRB said:

Slip shot rig, use it for 40 years and going strong.

Tom

 

 

Tom, when you say 'Slip Shot' rig, are you clinching a row of split-shot to a dead-end line?

 

Reason I ask, in the 1970s I devised a rig for perch fishing in rocks and reefs.

I called it a "Slip-Shot" rig because the split-shot was sacrificial,

when the shot got fouled it slipped off the tag-end. Also, what lure are you using?

 

Roger

 

 

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37 minutes ago, RoLo said:

 

 

Tom, when you say "Slip Shot" rig, are you clinching a row of split-shot to a dead-end line?

 

Reason I ask, in the 1970s I devised a rig for perch fishing in rocks and reefs.

I called it a "Slip-Shot" rig because the split-shot was sacrificial,

when the shot got fouled it slipped off the tag-end. Also, what lure are you using?

 

Roger

 

 

No Roger, it's a variation of a C-rig less a swivel, sometimes called a finesse C-rig today.

Unlike the mojo rig that uses a rubber strand to peg the cyclinder weight onto the line the slip shot rig allows the cylinder weight to slide on the line and stopped by a rubber strand pegged glass bead or a plastic cylinder stop called a Carolina keeper

I prefer the past 20 years using the Carolina keeper and still use the glass bead for additional sound device. My cyclinder weight of choice is Top Brass black Pro-Jo weight, 1/8 oz for spinning tackle with 6 lb mono and 1/4 oz for bait casting tackle with 12 lb mono.

direct on the main line without any swivels, 1 knot.

The split shot works OK if you first pre groove the lead shot ,by sliding line through it after crimping, the cut off any damaged line and litghly crimp the shot a second time. I prefer the better strike detection a free sliding sinker offers.

Tom

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Posted

Thanks Tom.

That's quite different from what I envisioned, but I like the concept

 

Roger

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Maybe I should have asked this way. Lets say a million dollar fishing contest was being sponsored with only finesse style used.
Each person could only pick one finesse technique for that year. What would it be? 

I didn't mean to step on toes and didn't know how easy it was to ruffle feathers. I just wanted to nail down what most people pick over all others if it came down to just that one technique. Even if its not a do all style.

I did like the looks of the Owner bullet head. I can see me using those. I hadn't seen them before.
 

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3 hours ago, WildmanWilson said:

Maybe I should have asked this way. Lets say a million dollar fishing contest was being sponsored with only finesse style used.
Each person could only pick one finesse technique for that year. What would it be? 

I didn't mean to step on toes and didn't know how easy it was to ruffle feathers. I just wanted to nail down what most people pick over all others if it came down to just that one technique. Even if its not a do all style.

I did like the looks of the Owner bullet head. I can see me using those. I hadn't seen them before.
 

No worries. All of us, except for the Curmudgeons :P, knew what you meant.  

Posted

4" Zoom Ribbon Tail worm on a light mojo rig or split shot rig. 

 

I also like using the 4" Original Slider worms on the lightest Slider Jig head possible. I also like to rig up smaller 3" size curly tail grubs or small Zoom Critter Craws.

 

My overall favorite finesse presentation is a F-7 or F-9 Rapala original Floating minnow in either gold/Black or Silver/Black on 6-8lb test clear or light green line barely twitched next to cover. Early in the year I will go as small as the f-5 size but I like the smaller Flat Rap Minnow when I go smaller for some reason.

Posted

For me it would be a 4" stick worm rigged on  6 or 8 pound line and a  7 ' M spinning rod. You might have to weed thru some little ones but you'll get some nice ones also.

Posted

Tough one. It would be very close between the drop shot and wacky rig. I guess I'd go DS because I can still still throw something similar to the wacky in a weightless T-rigged senko, whereas I couldn't really fill the niche for the drop shot. 

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