ohihunter2014 Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 I found a pflueger Trion bait caster for under $25 so wanted to try one and will be buying tonight. I have never used one of these before and would like to use it for worms, senkos, crank baits, etc if possible. what type of line and weight would you guys use for this reel? I was going to put it on a 6ft pistol grip ugly stick that i have reeless and if i like the bait caster move onto a lightning shock rod or something else. What type of bait are usually used with a bait caster reel? Anything i need to do when i get it, line it and mount it? should i have cabelas line it for me? Do i need to do anything to the spinning reel/pflueger president when i get it? Quote
jdz197 Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 I started out with 15 lb fluorocarbon on my silvermax last year and then put 65 lb braid on it as larger braid will not dig into itself as easily as smaller diameter braid. I found the fluorocarbon easier to manage backlash. You could start out with similar diameter mono as mono is cheaper. Buy a few cheap mono diameters at walmart and see what works best for you. I have 40 and 50 lb 8 carrier "round" braid on my shimano and daiwa baitcasters now and find it just about right for me. Quote
Super User fishnkamp Posted March 8, 2017 Super User Posted March 8, 2017 A good line to start with is something like Berkley Trilene Big Game in say 10 pound test. You do not need to worry with line you would bomb long casts because the shorter rod will make short to medium lengths well but be difficult to make really long casts with. That is fine. I would stay with a bit heavier lures rather than really light plastics. So if you want to fish a plastic worm or crayfish imitation then use a 3/8 to 1/2 ounce worm weight or throw a 3/8 or larger jig with a trailer on it. Again something like a 3/8 spinnerbait with double willow leaf blades would be good. Even something like a 1/2 ounce rattle trap would work good.'These are all basic lures that work in the spring and summer. When you are ready to try a beter rod then a 6'6" Berkley Lightning Shock rod is a decent step up. I personally fish a bunch of $200+ rods but still fish two Lightning Shock rods for stripers. They work just about as well as my other two rods I am using f ro the same purpose, but they cast a bunch more. I also fish a bunch of Pflueger President reels. For those I like thin braid. I use Berkely FireLine in 24 pound test (equal to the diameter of 6 pound test mono. I would put some of your big game or other mono on the reel first then install your FireLine. I like to add a 4 foot mono or copoly leader. Quote
nameiztaken Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 3 hours ago, ohihunter2014 said: I found a pflueger Trion bait caster for under $25 so wanted to try one and will be buying tonight. I have never used one of these before and would like to use it for worms, senkos, crank baits, etc if possible. what type of line and weight would you guys use for this reel? I was going to put it on a 6ft pistol grip ugly stick that i have reeless and if i like the bait caster move onto a lightning shock rod or something else. What type of bait are usually used with a bait caster reel? Anything i need to do when i get it, line it and mount it? should i have cabelas line it for me? Do i need to do anything to the spinning reel/pflueger president when i get it? Put the reel on the Lightning rod, and spool it with any brand 16lb Flourocarbon line. Baitcasters are good for: - Soft Plastics (Not too small, RoboWorms for example wont be a good bait to use) - Crankbaits - Spinnerbaits - Jigs - Frogs (Although, this is a little stressful on the reel. If the reel has a graphite frame instead of aluminum, using frogs may significantly reduce the life of the reel) - Lipless Crankbaits - Poppers and other topwater baits And anything else that is larger than a roboworm. Also note, casting a baitcasting reel is a bit different than other reels. This might be a good read. https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/172271-how-to-cast-a-baitcaster/ Quote
Fishnow Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 At beginning try to keep all brakes tide,it's should help don't make a backlash . But the best way to begin it's ask somebody familiar to baitcaster to help you and show how to adjust brakes and couple cast technique . Quote
BassGirl71 Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 On my bait casters, when I use braid, it's 65-pound Fortis. I don't usually go above 14-pound for mono because it's easier to manage, I think. I know some people swear by fluorocarbon, but I think it can be tough for a beginner to start out with. Of course, I haven't used it in a few years since I got frustrtated with the line memory and took it off my reels. Maybe it has changed, but I think either mono or braid is best to start with if you've never used a bait caster. JMO. I've also used KastKing copolymer with good results on my bait casters. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted March 9, 2017 Super User Posted March 9, 2017 When you say you have never used one of these before do you mean a Trion baitcast reel or any baitcast reel? If you are just learning to use a baitcast reel, then I personally think a fluorocarbon line should be your last choice to start learning with. Most have a fair amount of memory. Line conditioner can help. However, getting a kink in the line from backlashing will weaken the line more so than other line types. I'd save the fluorocaron for when you get a little experience under your belt. I like 12# mono or co-polymer. A few I can recommend from personal experience are Sufix Elite, Berkley Trilene XL, Sunline Super Natural and Silver Thread AN40. Sufix Siege isn't too bad either nor is Big Game. I do feel that Big Game has more memory than the others I mentioned. However, once wet it is fine. EDIT: I had forgotten about P-Line CX. It was the line I used on my first baitcast reel. Handled very well. It did break down in the spool, but that was after plenty of backlashes. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted March 9, 2017 Super User Posted March 9, 2017 Start by watching Glenn's vedio, how to cast a baitcasting reel. Aviod expensive FC line and use inexpensive mono like 12 lb Big Game and Cabela's usually spools line if you buy the reel from them over the counter. Tom 1 Quote
ohihunter2014 Posted March 9, 2017 Author Posted March 9, 2017 Never used any bait caster. Now I went to buy the trion tonight and seen it's only a 3-4 bearing. Should I pass or will it be okay for a season or 2? it's the newer model with magnets too. Quote
Super User Angry John Posted March 9, 2017 Super User Posted March 9, 2017 I have never used the reel in question but the important stance is count does not matter as much as good engineering. A cheap bait caster can be very frustrating and adding a hard to handle line like flouro will only make matters worse. I would get any of the good copoly lines to learn on like suffix seige, p-line cx or YHB in 12lb test. Put the brake on all the way with the spool tension set to stop when the weight hits the ground. Slowly back down as your skills improve. Your inital distance will suck but that is way better than trashing an entire spool of line and trying to deal with that on the water. I would guess that your budget is low, so i would recommend a BPS PQ reel or a used daiwa advantage. The advantage is the reel i learned on and i still use it along with my steez reels 1 Quote
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