Super User scaleface Posted March 8, 2017 Super User Posted March 8, 2017 Every one knows what EWG's and straight shanks are . What is the correct terminology for this classic design ? Its not offset . Offset means the point is not inline with the shaft . Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted March 8, 2017 Super User Posted March 8, 2017 Always been called offset to me, and by most manufacturers from what I can tell. Yes, a non-inline point and shank is also referred to as offset, but I think more commonly it is called "kirbed" or "reversed." I just know if you want to buy a bunch of hooks like what you pictured online, you'll find all you need if you search by "offset worm hook." 2 Quote
S. Sass Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 Technically the ones you posted are offset. If you take the exact direction the point of the hook is going it's not headed for the eye. The worm.in your picture is angled back against the tip of the hook this making it a better hook than a EWG for worms as it is easier to be exposed because it is not in line with the eye. If you Google "offset worm hook" all the images that come up across the top of your search are hooks just like your picture. 2 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted March 8, 2017 Author Super User Posted March 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Team9nine said: Always been called offset to me, and by most manufacturers from what I can tell. Yes, a non-inline point and shank is also referred to as offset, but I think more commonly it is called "kirbed" or "reversed." I just know if you want to buy a bunch of hooks like what you pictured online, you'll find all you need if you search by "offset worm hook." Good enough for me . I just wanted to be on the same page as every one else . Quote
GreenGhostMan Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, S. Sass said: Technically the ones you posted are offset. If you take the exact direction the point of the hook is going it's not headed for the eye. The worm.in your picture is angled back against the tip of the hook this making it a better hook than a EWG for worms as it is easier to be exposed because it is not in line with the eye. If you Google "offset worm hook" all the images that come up across the top of your search are hooks just like your picture. What this guy said. I always took "offset" as meaning not in line with the eye of the hook. 2 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted March 8, 2017 Author Super User Posted March 8, 2017 So as far as Blade forum is concerned , the next worm hook thread that pops up , everyone will be on board with a standard offset worm hook . Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 8, 2017 Super User Posted March 8, 2017 The Owner list works for me: http://www.ownerhooks.com/basshooks.htm 2 Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted March 8, 2017 Super User Posted March 8, 2017 Not addressing the question, per se....but another helpful hook link: http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/Content/downloads/sizing_chart.pdf Doesn't include wide gaps, but when printed is a very handy size chart....or it would be if every hook mfr used standard sizes anyway, I keep a printed copy of this around all the time...not just for hooks Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted March 8, 2017 Super User Posted March 8, 2017 Team9nine is correct. they are offset shank worm hooks sometimes called "J" style hooks. I use that type for regular worms like the Basstrix Locomotion and the Mann's Jelly worm. When you hear offset the hook can offset left or right or the shank can be offset but I've never heard of an offset hook that the point isn't in-line with the eye, that would make most hooks offset. There are 2 main styles like what you have pictured, you have the "J" style and then you have what is called a "Sproat" or "Southern Sproat", and that is just an O'Shaughnessy bend at the bottom of the hook. Quote
Super User scaleface Posted March 8, 2017 Author Super User Posted March 8, 2017 In-fisherman defines offset as the point not on the same plain as the shank . Ive always called the Eagle Claw 295JB "the original" offset . http://www.in-fisherman.com/gear-accessories/all-about-hooks/ Quote
lo n slo Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 nice touch there with the hook eye bend modifications Quote
Super User WRB Posted March 8, 2017 Super User Posted March 8, 2017 I think the OP was confused with the term off set as it applies to hook points instead of hook shanks. Bait holder hook often have off set hook point where worm hooks relate to various off set hook shank shapes and there are lots of shapes! Barlows Tackle PDF catalog has a easy to review "hooks" section with discription from most hook mfr's, good resource to reference. Tom Quote
Super User scaleface Posted March 8, 2017 Author Super User Posted March 8, 2017 59 minutes ago, lo n slo said: nice touch there with the hook eye bend modifications Those are VMC Round Bends and they come like that . 1 Quote
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