worm hooks and weights?

[ohihunter2014]

going to make a few purchases and have been reading a lot and i see 50% like strait shank worm hooks and 50% like the offset ones. I will be using 7-10 inch Berkley power bait worms and would like to use senkos also so what hooks do you guys recommend for these setups? how about weedless worm hooks? pain in the butt or worth it?

 

also what size weight are you using for these setups-senko and worms? im using spinning gear and fishing anything from lake erie and tributaries to ponds and medium size lakes.

[junyer357]

Every hook has advantages and disadvantages. There is no "one perfect hook style". Thats why there is so many diffrent style hooks. 

 

I personally like an offset for a regular 7" powerbait worm but for 10" or senkos, i switch to an ewg.  On the fatter diameter worms the ewg to me is a better choice, since it has a wider gap allowing the worm body to move more exposing more hook on a bite. 

Straight shanks i mainly use pitching and punching and a few others on occasion. 

 

Only weedless hooks i use is for wacky senkos on an o-ring. Anything else the hook is either texposed. If im throwing into thick cover i bury the hook in the bait. 

 

If you are just trying to cut costs, buy only odd or even sizes of the style you want. There isnt much diffrence between a 2/0 and a 3/0 hook. 

[eyedabassman]

38 minutes ago, junyer357 said:

Every hook has advantages and disadvantages. There is no "one perfect hook style". Thats why there is so many diffrent style hooks. 

 

I personally like an offset for a regular 7" powerbait worm but for 10" or senkos, i switch to an ewg.  On the fatter diameter worms the ewg to me is a better choice, since it has a wider gap allowing the worm body to move more exposing more hook on a bite. 

Straight shanks i mainly use pitching and punching and a few others on occasion. 

 

Only weedless hooks i use is for wacky senkos on an o-ring. Anything else the hook is either texposed. If im throwing into thick cover i bury the hook in the bait. 

 

If you are just trying to cut costs, buy only odd or even sizes of the style you want. There isnt much diffrence between a 2/0 and a 3/0 hook. 

I use both hooks on worms but i like EWG on fat worms or tubes. But a 2/0 and a 3/0 are different on small baits. As for weights get  1/8 oz. 3/16,1/4,3/8,1/2,3/4 now you can fish shallow water and deep water.

[Mike L]

I use the Owner twist lock hooks with centering pin.

For swimmimg Most times I use a 3/16, for bottom contact I start at a 1/4

 

 

 

Mike

[Jaderose]

For 90% of what I throw, I use a Gammy 3/0 offset EWG with 2 glass beads and 1/8 oz worm weight bobberstopped about 1/2"  above the weight.  This gives the beads and weight a little travel and makes a nice little clicking noise.  Works for me!

[BassGirl71]

29 minutes ago, Jaderose said:

For 90% of what I throw, I use a Gammy 3/0 offset EWG with 2 glass beads and 1/8 oz worm weight bobberstopped about 1/2"  above the weight.  This gives the beads and weight a little travel and makes a nice little clicking noise.  Works for me!

That's a great idea.  I don't know why I never thought of using glass beads with a Texas rig.  I always have them with my for my C-rigs, but I didn't think about using them this way.  I'll definitely give this a try this year. Do you use tungsten weights? It seems like the sound would be a lot better clicking off of the tungsten, too, than it would off of lead.  Thanks for the tip!

[Jaderose]

14 hours ago, BassGirl71 said:

That's a great idea.  I don't know why I never thought of using glass beads with a Texas rig.  I always have them with my for my C-rigs, but I didn't think about using them this way.  I'll definitely give this a try this year. Do you use tungsten weights? It seems like the sound would be a lot better clicking off of the tungsten, too, than it would off of lead.  Thanks for the tip!

I don't but they would work great

[youngangler274]

On 3/8/2017 at 5:36 PM, BassGirl71 said:

That's a great idea.  I don't know why I never thought of using glass beads with a Texas rig.  I always have them with my for my C-rigs, but I didn't think about using them this way.  I'll definitely give this a try this year. Do you use tungsten weights? It seems like the sound would be a lot better clicking off of the tungsten, too, than it would off of lead.  Thanks for the tip!

 

13 hours ago, Jaderose said:

I don't but they would work great

Be careful using tungsten weights with glass beads! the tungsten is hard enough that if the tungsten weight has any room to slide up and down the line, when it comes back down on the beads it will break them!

[Catt]

I use straight shank round bend for everything up to the thickness of a Senko & then it's offset round or EWG.

 

The same think for unweighted unless it Wacky rigged, then I use Wacky specific hooks.

 

Weights are everything from 1/62th to 1.5 oz depending on rate of fall or vegetation.

[Yakalong]

I agree with a lot of what has been stated above, also I have (and still learning) you just have to get out there and play with different set ups. I have different hooks and weights in the bottom of the bag that when I bought them I thought would work. However, they didn't but that doesn't mean they won't work on a different body of water. Just my opinion 

[jimf]

I have been using offset for much of my worm fishing but stocked up on straight shanked hooks, going to fish those exclusively for a month or so.  After reading a bit and thinking about it I do believe the straight shank should be better for hook setting.   

[BassGirl71]

13 hours ago, youngangler274 said:

 

Be careful using tungsten weights with glass beads! the tungsten is hard enough that if the tungsten weight has any room to slide up and down the line, when it comes back down on the beads it will break them!

I didn't think of that!  Good point.

[the reel ess]

This will help

 

14 hours ago, youngangler274 said:

 

Be careful using tungsten weights with glass beads! the tungsten is hard enough that if the tungsten weight has any room to slide up and down the line, when it comes back down on the beads it will break them!

If you don't use a bead, the tungsten weight can cut your line. That's why I started it, but I've come to believe the slight click of the two together produces better.

[youngangler274]

3 minutes ago, the reel ess said:

This will help

 

If you don't use a bead, the tungsten weight can cut your line. That's why I started it, but I've come to believe the slight click of the two together produces better.

Never had that happen to me personally, but if that does concern you then I would suggest switching to a plastic bead instead. otherwise you could peg the weight down on the bead so it cannot come back down hard on the glass bead but this would essentially be the same as pegging the weight to the head of the plastic anyways. Just my 2 cents, experimenting is never a bad thing and your mileage may vary.

   - tight lines

[the reel ess]

2 minutes ago, youngangler274 said:

Never had that happen to me personally, but if that does concern you then I would suggest switching to a plastic bead instead. otherwise you could peg the weight down on the bead so it cannot come back down hard on the glass bead but this would essentially be the same as pegging the weight to the head of the plastic anyways. Just my 2 cents, experimenting is never a bad thing and your mileage may vary.

   - tight lines

Good ideas and I'm not arguing, but the bead has never broken on me. But pegging the weight might make it click even better. Food for thought.

[WRB]

On March 7, 2017 at 11:00 AM, ohihunter2014 said:

going to make a few purchases and have been reading a lot and i see 50% like strait shank worm hooks and 50% like the offset ones. I will be using 7-10 inch Berkley power bait worms and would like to use senkos also so what hooks do you guys recommend for these setups? how about weedless worm hooks? pain in the butt or worth it?

 

also what size weight are you using for these setups-senko and worms? im using spinning gear and fishing anything from lake erie and tributaries to ponds and medium size lakes.

Berkley 7" and 10" power worm I use Owner #5103 size 3/0 with 8mm glass faceted bead 3/16 oz Top Brass black bullet weight most of the time, may go to 1/4 oz or heavier in water over 20' or windy.

Senkos 5" and 6" Owner #5172 weedless wacky hook size 1/0, 7" size 2/0, o-riing or nose hooked rigged. Add 3/32 nail weight for water over 8' deep.

Don't like spinning tackle with FC or mono line over 10 lb test.

Good luck.

Tom

PS, you can find similar hooks to Owner  like Gamakatsu or Mustad Ultra but don't use inexpensive bargain cheap hooks, waste of your time on the water.

[Fishingmickey]

On 3/7/2017 at 1:00 PM, ohihunter2014 said:

going to make a few purchases and have been reading a lot and i see 50% like strait shank worm hooks and 50% like the offset ones. I will be using 7-10 inch Berkley power bait worms and would like to use senkos also so what hooks do you guys recommend for these setups? how about weedless worm hooks? pain in the butt or worth it?

 

also what size weight are you using for these setups-senko and worms? im using spinning gear and fishing anything from lake erie and tributaries to ponds and medium size lakes.

For what it is worth, I have used the 3/0 Gamakatsu straight shank rubber worm hooks on the 7" power worm and the 5/0 (same Gamakatsu hook) on the 10" for many years with excellent success. Weights 7" 3/16 oz bullet. 10" 1/4 oz bullet.

Fishingmickey

 

[BassThumb]

If you're unsure which hooks to buy, try them both and decide for yourself. Worst case scenario, you're out $4. JimF has the idea.

[S. Sass]

On 3/9/2017 at 10:06 PM, Catt said:

I use straight shank round bend for everything up to the thickness of a Senko & then it's offset round or EWG.

 

The same think for unweighted unless it Wacky rigged, then I use Wacky specific hooks.

I agree with the straight shank round bend appropriately sized as the best worm hooks. All these later style bent designs for a worm hook really have done more to decrease hookup % as every one of them closes off the hook point more and more. 

 

19 minutes ago, BassThumb said:

If you're unsure which hooks to buy, try them both and decide for yourself. Worst case scenario, you're out $4. 

Of course there is this option as everyone likes to do their own tinkering. And hooks for the most part are relatively cheap. 

[RoLo]

 

 

For both the 7 & 10" Power Worm I'd use a 3/0 straight-shank, round-bend hook.

The weight used would depend on conditions. 

 

Roger