PatrickKnight Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 I am looking at adding a Ballistic EX to my arsenal this year but I am happy about this feature and a little worried as well. For you guys who own the Magsealed reels are you able to service them at all on your own, do you have to send them into Daiwa for servicing, or are there any authorized service centers like could I send it to DVT? 1 Quote
dam0007 Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 5 hours ago, PatrickKnight said: I am looking at adding a Ballistic EX to my arsenal this year but I am happy about this feature and a little worried as well. For you guys who own the Magsealed reels are you able to service them at all on your own, do you have to send them into Daiwa for servicing, or are there any authorized service centers like could I send it to DVT? Technically you have to send them back to Daiwa $25/reel for service which depending on how much you fish, once every 1-2 years. They will relube the bearings with the magseal oil. HOWEVER, DVT can definitely service them but will re lube the bearings with oil that isn't 'Magseal'. Do you have to use Mag seal?? No! Could you?? Yes! Should you?? I would and do! Same ballpark pricing regardless who services them. I own 2 of those newer ballistics, fished them all 2016. Smooth as silk, and zero line twist issues. Haven't had them serviced yet either. ?? You'll definitely like them. 1 Quote
dsqui Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 1 hour ago, dam0007 said: Technically you have to send them back to Daiwa $25/reel for service which depending on how much you fish, once every 1-2 years. They will relube the bearings with the magseal oil. HOWEVER, DVT can definitely service them but will re lube the bearings with oil that isn't 'Magseal'. Do you have to use Mag seal?? No! Could you?? Yes! Should you?? I would and do! Same ballpark pricing regardless who services them. I own 2 of those newer ballistics, fished them all 2016. Smooth as silk, and zero line twist issues. Haven't had them serviced yet either. ?? You'll definitely like them. When or if u send them back to daiwa is it daiwa in USA or some other country I've also been looking at theballistic and procyon Quote
dam0007 Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 24 minutes ago, dsqui said: When or if u send them back to daiwa is it daiwa in USA or some other country I've also been looking at theballistic and procyon If you buy the US model (TW, EBay, local, etc.) then yes Daiwa USA. If you buy the JDM reel, which I don't even think it's ballistic I'm pretty sure it's another name/model all together, then you would have to find someone who does JDM reels. personally, I know for a fact US Daiwa won't service any of my JDM reels. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 Daiwa doesn't make the magseal oil available as far as I'm aware. The mag seal is a kinda cool extra feature but not do or die either way. Personally it wouldn't factor either way in my buying decisions. Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted March 8, 2017 Super User Posted March 8, 2017 I have two JDM Certates, both with mag sealed bearings. Neither gets used a lot, and haven't yet required service. When they do, the bearings will get the seals removed, and will be cleaned and lubed as I always do. I'm ambivalent about this concept.Is it n actual benefit? Could very well be, long term. But, my options are to send it to Japan for servicing(not gonna happen), or service it myself, and defeat the mag seal. So, if there is any long term benefit, I'm not gonna see it. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 The way I see it the magseal concept would benefit the "average " angler that isn't as hardcore as many of us. They buy a reel and use and abuse it right out of the box until it dies then puts it in a box and forgets about it. Quote
PatrickKnight Posted March 8, 2017 Author Posted March 8, 2017 That is a relief knowing I can service them the same way I do my Shimanos without issue. Quote
reason162 Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 1 hour ago, PatrickKnight said: That is a relief knowing I can service them the same way I do my Shimanos without issue. Not sure how you service your Shimano bearings, but if you flush/re-oil a magsealed bearing it will no longer be "magsealed." Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted March 8, 2017 Super User Posted March 8, 2017 My advice is to just use the reel & forget servicing it until it presents a problem if ever. The factory sealed magnetic oil system is not meant to be serviced like a conventional constructed reel. I have several diawa certates which just keep running smooth without any servicing for multiple years. The mag sealed reels are an exception to reel service protocol based on the design. Quote
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