YoTone Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 Ive been wondering if anyone uses a lighter line as a leader to save line during hang ups? I use 30lbs braid and I hate it when i get snagged on a long cast and lose a ton of line. Sometimes with just 2 or 3 snags I need to respool. Do people who use a fluorocarbon leader line to braid find that you dont need to respool as often? And would size leader line would be ideal for 30lbs braid? Quote
YoTone Posted March 7, 2017 Author Posted March 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Yudo1 said: It's one of the main reasons I use a leader. do you use braid as a main line? what size line and leader do you use? Quote
Yudo1 Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, YoTone said: do you use braid as a main line? what size line and leader do you use? I use 30lb, 40lb and 50lb braid with mostly 12lb to 14lb fluoro. Quote
Super User Darren. Posted March 7, 2017 Super User Posted March 7, 2017 36 minutes ago, YoTone said: Ive been wondering if anyone uses a lighter line as a leader to save line during hang ups? I use 30lbs braid and I hate it when i get snagged on a long cast and lose a ton of line. Sometimes with just 2 or 3 snags I need to respool. Do people who use a fluorocarbon leader line to braid find that you dont need to respool as often? And would size leader line would be ideal for 30lbs braid? A key reason for leader use among those of us who want to save our braided line I have stated such in many threads on the topic of "to leader or not". Straight braid clearly works for many, but for me, I fish a lot of snaggy areas and do not have to lose much braid when I'm snagged thanks to a leader. It just saves braid!® 1 Quote
YoTone Posted March 7, 2017 Author Posted March 7, 2017 would 10lbs leader be too light for 30lbs braid? saying this cos i see some seagar red label 10lbs for like $6.50 Quote
Super User Darren. Posted March 7, 2017 Super User Posted March 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, YoTone said: would 10lbs leader be too light for 30lbs braid? saying this cos i see some seagar red label 10lbs for like $6.50 Red label makes a good leader. Just ask @ww2farmer, he likes it. I would say it isn't too light, just tie a solid knot like the uni-to-uni or the Modified Albright/Alberto. Well tied, they won't fail. I use 4-15# leaders on 10# and 15# braid. Wouldn't have a problem with 30# + 10. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted March 7, 2017 Super User Posted March 7, 2017 Are you fishing from a boat? It sounds to me like you're bank fishing. Roger Quote
Fun4Me Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 I mostly use 15# Big Game (on 50# braid), unless I really need to use Fluoro. Quote
YoTone Posted March 7, 2017 Author Posted March 7, 2017 what would be the advantage with fluorocarbon over mono or vicea versa as a leader for braid? Quote
Fun4Me Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 Just now, YoTone said: what would be the advantage with fluorocarbon over mono or vicea versa as a leader for braid? Really clear water, or if you want the line to sink vs. float. I don't do it anymore, but when I only fished one rod and reel I would use fluoro leaders for jerkbaits. I like the jerkbait to be slightly head down when it's sitting still, and I found that fluoro made that easier. Most of my leaders were/are mono or copoly now. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted March 7, 2017 Super User Posted March 7, 2017 24 minutes ago, YoTone said: yes from the bank mostly. Ah hah, now I understand. Unfortunately, a breakaway rig is almost a necessity for bank fishing, especially along brushy shorelines with poor access. The main line and leader should have sufficiently different breaking tests, because a frayed main line can quickly close the gap (if you get my drift). I agree that a 10-lb leader would be just fine With respect to leader material, most fellows on the forum would recommend a fluorocarbon leader. As for me, I much prefer copolymer or nylon over flourocarbon, but that's personal opinion. Roger Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 7, 2017 Super User Posted March 7, 2017 That's one of the top reasons to use a leader with braid, bank or not. I want to be able to break off cleanly and not disturb the spot. 3 Quote
TH-Outdoors Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 how much do you guys spool on as a leader? Quote
Fun4Me Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, TH-Outdoors said: how much do you guys spool on as a leader? I go with about 5' or so. I use Tatulas with the T-Wing and the knot doesn't go through them without manipulating the line. Quote
Turkey sandwich Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 I think braid to leader is the way to go at least 80% of the time. Bank fishing also helped me learn to fish T-rigs and light C-rigs because weedlessness was such a necessity (and they really, really work). Quote
Super User RoLo Posted March 7, 2017 Super User Posted March 7, 2017 3 hours ago, J Francho said: That's one of the top reasons to use a leader with braid, bank or not. I want to be able to break off cleanly and not disturb the spot. Not me! I've got plenty of spots to fish, but not plenty of $10 lures to lose on 3/8" twigs. If any one spot meant that much to me, I'd come back an hour later. Roger Quote
Super User JustJames Posted March 7, 2017 Super User Posted March 7, 2017 I was gonna say, some time you can save you lure / plastic or weight with those thick braided line. The hook might be a bit bended or break but that easy fix with plier. Anyway, I use leader to braid when fish mostly plastic. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 7, 2017 Super User Posted March 7, 2017 6 hours ago, RoLo said: Not me! I've got plenty of spots to fish, but not plenty of $10 lures to lose on 3/8" twigs. If any one spot meant that much to me, I'd come back an hour later. Roger You're using the wrong jigs. Siebert's are less than $4, and if you pick the right style, they rarely hang up. But seriously, I usually go and get any lures stuck in the wood when I'm done fishing the spot. It works better for me than dragging the whole brush pile back to the boat. Quote
Jaderose Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 I use 12 lb Stren FluoroCast with 30 lb Power Pro for this exact reason. Works like a champ Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted March 7, 2017 Super User Posted March 7, 2017 There are at least three advantages to using a fluorocarbon leader with your braided line: 1. The ability to break-off 2. Abrasion resistance 3. Visibility 1 Quote
junyer357 Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, roadwarrior said: There are at least three advantages to using a fluorocarbon leader with your braided line: 1. The ability to break-off 2. Abrasion resistance 3. Visibility X2 The first 2 are why i use a leader. #3 isnt as big a deal for me in the waters i normally fish. I do reccomend an actual leader material too, not regular flouro line. The dedicated leader jas been much better for me at abrasion resistance. I use the seaguar blue label and have it in 10, 15, and 20# test. Thicker, nastier, and rockier the cover the higher test i use. Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted March 7, 2017 Super User Posted March 7, 2017 56 minutes ago, junyer357 said: The dedicated leader jas been much better for me at abrasion resistance. Interesting. I have seen spools specifically labeled 'leader', but I assumed that it was either a gimmick, or superfluous. Seemed to me that fluoro or hybrid would suffice just fine for my leaders....and they have. Are you suggesting that xyz 20# fluorocarbon leader is somehow different than xyx 20# fluorocarbon line? Quote
Super User RoLo Posted March 7, 2017 Super User Posted March 7, 2017 2 hours ago, J Francho said: You're using the wrong jigs. Siebert's are less than $4, and if you pick the right style, they rarely hang up. But seriously, I usually go and get any lures stuck in the wood when I'm done fishing the spot. It works better for me than dragging the whole brush pile back to the boat. JIGS?? Where does it say jigs? The bait monkey loves you Quote
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