snake95 Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 By small, I mean 1/4 oz and 1/8 oz. I guess guys use those for crappie and other panfish. I mostly use 1/2 oz and 3/4 oz lipless cranks (RES in particular), even in shallow (3-4 ft) water casting from shore. It just occurred to me I have a bunch of 1/4 and less in my collection. When do you like to use them? Quote
j bab Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 I like the small Cotton Cordells (not sure exact weight) on an ultralight or light spinning rod in small ponds to catch numbers (bass). Tons of fun! 2 Quote
papajoe222 Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 I like the 1/4oz. just about anytime I'm targeting the upper water column, but they really shine when the ladies and gents are building nests in the spring. I like them because I can keep them up off the bottom in 3ft. of water without having to burn them back. I use a Daiwa Sol in the original gearing (slow) and a steady retrieve and give it a pop of the rod tip as it approaches the nest builders. 2 Quote
wdp Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 I use the 1/4 oz RES almost exclusively. They catch big fish too. The only time I use the 1/2 oz is when fishing water 5 ft or deeper. And that's very seldom. Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted March 6, 2017 Super User Posted March 6, 2017 The only time I've really 1/4 oz lipless is when the grass was really close to the surface and I couldn't keep a 1/2 oz bait from burying up. Quote
Jay2017 Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 I used the fire tiger red eye shad 1/4 ounce in murky water. It was around 3 foot deep. Caught crappie and a few bass Quote
MisplacedTexan99 Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 20 minutes ago, wdp said: I use the 1/4 oz RES almost exclusively. They catch big fish too. The only time I use the 1/2 oz is when fishing water 5 ft or deeper. And that's very seldom. Ditto mostly 1/4 and 3/8 ounce lipless for me also, numbers but the big girls eat em to. Quote
Mumbly Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 I have and use quite a few 1/4oz Cordell super spots and Rapala rattlin raps for smallmouth. As others have said, I use them mostly shallow on rock flats and reeds edges. Seem to work great on riprap also. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted March 6, 2017 Global Moderator Posted March 6, 2017 I own quite a few 1/4oz RES and Excalibers. When the fish are really shallow and eating traps they make it a little easier to fish without catching tons of junk. Also a good option when they want the bait ripped and dropped, but wanting a slower fall than I can get with a 1/2oz bait. Quote
Super User scaleface Posted March 6, 2017 Super User Posted March 6, 2017 The 1/8th ounce Rattle Trap catches a lot of fish but the hooks are too small . I lost a giant bass with one . Rick Clunn uses them and replaces the hooks with one larger one . I dont know the size , maybe a number 6 . I like to use the chartreuse one along standing timber edges on lightly windy summer days . 1 Quote
Super User NHBull Posted March 6, 2017 Super User Posted March 6, 2017 Hope to be using them on beds in a few weeks....I do increase the size of the hooks and speed up the retrieve Quote
Super User Spankey Posted March 6, 2017 Super User Posted March 6, 2017 I primarily fish the 1/4 oz. Mini Trap. Seem to be the perfect size in my opinion on the river. I dont mess with the Teeny Traps. 1/8 oz. Too small, abit light, seem like a handicap to my type of fishing. Do on occasion throw a 1/2 oz. trap but not often. Somewhere in in my travels a while back I'm pretty sure I saw these real small traps. Under 1/8 oz. but they were not Rat-L-Trap Brand. Some off the wall stuff. Quote
Poolshark Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 I use lipless crankbaits mostly in the spring and fall. Lakes with a lot of submerged grass are where they get the nod for me. I mostly used 1/4 and 1/2 ounce until last year when I deiscovered that big bass will eat the 1/8 ouncers. I caught some very sizable bass with the stock hooks but the rear ones completely bent out. So now I have and use an assortment of 1/8 and 1/4 ounce baits and I replace the stock hooks immediately. i throw the tiny ones with monofilament and spinning tackle and have had nice results. 2 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted March 6, 2017 Super User Posted March 6, 2017 18 minutes ago, Poolshark said: I use lipless crankbaits mostly in the spring and fall. Lakes with a lot of submerged grass are where they get the nod for me. I mostly used 1/4 and 1/2 ounce until last year when I deiscovered that big bass will eat the 1/8 ouncers. I caught some very sizable bass with the stock hooks but the rear ones completely bent out. So now I have and use an assortment of 1/8 and 1/4 ounce baits and I replace the stock hooks immediately. i throw the tiny ones with monofilament and spinning tackle and have had nice results. On 1/8th ounce lures , do you add two hooks or one and what size ? Quote
Poolshark Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 I've been experimenting indefinitely... But so far I like the results of replacing the rear hook on the tiny traps with a vcm sure set #2 sized. I tried replacing both but I found the hooks would get tangled easy while casting or erratically working the bait. 1 Quote
tholmes Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 I fish 1/4 oz. lipless cranks quite a bit. The 1/8 oz. are great for small pond bass, crappie and bluegill. I've even caught quite a few trout on them. Tom Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted March 6, 2017 Super User Posted March 6, 2017 Most of the time I use the 1/4 ounce size when fishing from the bank or when I'm fishing shallow water. About the only time I use a 1/2 ounce from the bank is when I know the lake and I know what kind of structure and cover I'm fishing around. Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted March 7, 2017 Super User Posted March 7, 2017 I fish the 1/8 Sebile lipless cranks pretty often. I bank fish with a single rod most of the time and when I have one of my finesse rods with me they are great when I want a little more casting distance to fish something further than I can cast my usual weightless plastics. I also fish them a lot when I am out hiking with non-fishermen as they cover water very fast, catch a wide range of species, and hang up less than an inline spinner. This lets me get some fishing in while not making my friends stand there while I slowly work a plastic or small jig. I either crimp all the barbs down on the OEM trebles or switch out to single hooks. The single hooks rarely snag even when bumping them around wood. Last fall I had an insane day with a bright orange craw colored one catching stocked Rainbow trout. I was catching them all over the lake and they would race out of cover dozens of feet away to hit it. 1 Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted March 8, 2017 Super User Posted March 8, 2017 I use tons of 1/4 ounce lipless cranks for bass, mostly in shallower water or where vegetation is growing higher. Never overlook them for bass. 1 Quote
wdp Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 9 minutes ago, iceintheveins said: I use tons of 1/4 ounce lipless cranks for bass, mostly in shallower water or where vegetation is growing higher. Never overlook them for bass. Same way I use em. The 1/4 oz works great for ripping thru sparse grass on shallow flats. And they catch big ones. I really don't consider the 1/4 oz small actually. To me it's average. The 1/8 oz rattle traps are def small. 1 Quote
greentrout Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 Yep, I'll be on the water tomorrow using Rattlin Rapala Pre Spawn > then to Zoom plastics lizards > Quote
BassThumb Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 The 3/16oz Ultralight Rippin' Rap is a very effective lure for both largemouth and smallmouth in open-water and walleyes through the ice. Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 8, 2017 Super User Posted March 8, 2017 1/4 oz Rat-L-Trap in shallow marshes 1 Quote
jbw252 Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 On 3/6/2017 at 1:42 AM, Bluebasser86 said: I own quite a few 1/4oz RES and Excalibers. When the fish are really shallow and eating traps they make it a little easier to fish without catching tons of junk. Also a good option when they want the bait ripped and dropped, but wanting a slower fall than I can get with a 1/2oz bait. Yes! You took the words right out of my keyboard. Quote
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