Fluoro Faults

[wdp]

I do all my cranking with 12 - 15# Seaguar Invizx. Never had a problem. It's probably the most user friendly fluoro that I've tried. It has some stretch apparently which might explain it. I never use line conditioner either & tie regular ole palomar knots. As stated, just wet the line very well before cinching. 

 

Yeah, you can get line knicks & line rash in spots, just like any other line. So you check it often & retire as needed. You can find Invizx for a reasonable price. Academy Sports runs a special on it about 2 - 3 times a year. 

 

Now I'm talking baitcasters here. Tried FC once on a spinning reel, ha ha. Never again. All my spinning set ups have braid or low lb test mono. 

[MickD]

11 hours ago, junyer357 said:

Im sure it could damage it as well, but not as bad i would think. When you tighten the knot its only over a foot or two of line. With a fish its spread over the length of line out, not just knot and small bit of line

I can say that it has worked better for me to stop doing that.

 

 

I find that when properly lubed, tightening the snot out of it puts a set in the line that helps prevent the knot from loosening.  The only knot problems I have is when I get lazy and don't put enough turns into the knot.  I don't find FC to be as fragile when used as a leader as I do when it's on the baitcaster spool and it gets kinked trying to undo a backlash.  Then it really cannot take much without failing.

 

I have to admit that we may be interpreting "tightening the snot out of it" differently.  

[offsidewing]

If it doesn't have treble hooks, I use fluoro.  People love or hate fluoro.  I love it, have no problems with it, and don't use line conditioner.

 

I change it out every 2 months.  Then the first cast and last cast is always for distance to let line out and reel it in at a medium pace with tension from me pinching the line between my finger.  I use 6lb on spinning reels and 12, 15, and 18lb on baitcasters.  

 

Bonus points if you get the medium pace reference.

[junyer357]

8 hours ago, MickD said:

 

I find that when properly lubed, tightening the snot out of it puts a set in the line that helps prevent the knot from loosening.  The only knot problems I have is when I get lazy and don't put enough turns into the knot.  I don't find FC to be as fragile when used as a leader as I do when it's on the baitcaster spool and it gets kinked trying to undo a backlash.  Then it really cannot take much without failing.

 

I have to admit that we may be interpreting "tightening the snot out of it" differently.  

Yea i belive we are off on dog snot tight. 

For me it means pulling as hard as i can possibly pull on it for a few seconds, i still do it with braid. 

On my mono and flouro knots now i just pull steady on it, watching the knot. Once i see its snug and tight and the winds are pulled down like they should i stop. 

My worst kinks are from backlashes as well. Its not near the preoblem it once was since i upgraded reeels and better maintain them. Once the reel is set up i mainly backlash doing something stupid. Like throwing a shad rap upwind or hitting a dock or pylon. 

[Airman4754]

On 3/7/2017 at 6:21 AM, Tim Kelly said:

FC is great when you're dragging a worm or fishing any slack line presentation, you get much better bite detection and it gets blown round in the wind less than mono and much less than braid. Personally I just don't believe it has anything to offer when fishing a crankbait. I would use P line CXX as it's indestructible! The downside to FC is that if you snag up and have to pull for a break it damages the line. You can see it gets a sort of craze to the surface. Mono is much more tolerant of that sort of thing.

 

Mono also appear to actually stretch a little less than FC, despite marketing claims, though I believe it actually stretches more readily at lower loads, which FC might not do, which might explain why people perceive FC to stretch less in actual usage. FC is slightly less manageable on baitcasting gear than mono, but mono like CXX is pretty springy too. I think the extra weight (density) of the FC on a baitcaster spool is what makes the reel slightly more prone to backlashing. FC hates being backlashed and any loops of line need to be carefully released before they get a kink in them, and casting a spool with a loop of line under it, where you can hear the loop spinning on the spool during a cast, will weaken it significantly too. 

 

It's all horses for courses. FC is great, within it's limitations in the same way that braid and mono are limited to some jobs which they excel at while others there are better choices. For square bills I would give 12lb green P Line CXX a go. If it's super gnarly where you're throwing try 17 or 20. I am moderately convinced that the green colour is tougher than the clear or the fluorescent too by the way!

 

12lb CXX is insanely strong. I use it for glide baits and haven't ever had a problem. 8lb CXX is rated at a 21lb break strength and is what I use for magnum cranks.

 

10lb YZ hybrid is the best line I have found for square bills.

[RB 77]

Faults? The price! Haha. In all seriousness, probably the knot strength is the number one offender. With that being said I haven't really had a problem with he Palomar or the SD Jam knot.

[Team9nine]

There are no fluoro faults, there are only angler faults  If you don't feel comfortable with it, then you probably shouldn't use it. 

[XF15-Loader]

19 minutes ago, Team9nine said:

There are no fluoro faults, there are only angler faults  If you don't feel comfortable with it, then you probably shouldn't use it. 

Seeing that I've never used it, it's not a comfort level.  Just don't want to pay 20-30 bucks for a spool of line and have issues. I've since decided to move in baby steps and start with a copoly to see how well that works for me.  Perhaps next season I'll step up to staring fluoro.  

 

-J

[Team9nine]

9 minutes ago, XF15-Loader said:

Seeing that I've never used it, it's not a comfort level.  Just don't want to pay 20-30 bucks for a spool of line and have issues. I've since decided to move in baby steps and start with a copoly to see how well that works for me.  Perhaps next season I'll step up to staring fluoro.  

 

-J

 

Sounds like a plan.   Maybe "concerns" would have been a better word. Fluoro is what it is. I have it on nearly every bait caster I own, use it all season long without respooling and have even gone 2 seasons in some cases. I never use any line conditioner either - no problems here. But as you pointed out, others have a long list of "faults" they've had with the line. Only way to know is to try it. Well worth the money to me, but everyone is different. 

 

Good luck this season!