help with worm hooks

[ohihunter2014]

was at Walmart tonight and they had a ton of KVD worm hooks and gamatsku hooks for $1.00-2.99. I picked up a couple 7inch power bait worms and they said size 4 hooks are compatible on the package. Upon looking at the kvd and the gamatsku the same size looked different with the kvd being larger in the gap of the hook.

 

what size do you guys use and are different manufactures the same size or different?

 

Thank You.

[frosty]

Probably extra wide gap hooks. The bend in the back of the hook is bigger, leaving more room for thicker soft plastic baits. Either will likely work. 

 

Edit: at those prices I would definitely be stocking up. 

[WRB]

The hook gap for weedless rigging should be a minimum of twice the size of the worm body diameter.  Berkley 7" Power worms I use 3/0 worm hooks.

Tom

[ohihunter2014]

7 minutes ago, frosty said:

Probably extra wide gap hooks. The bend in the back of the hook is bigger, leaving more room for thicker soft plastic baits. Either will likely work. 

 

Edit: at those prices I would definitely be stocking up. 

I grabbed like

4-5 packs and then seen how the KVD was very wide and thought I better ask seeing how I have never used anything like that before. put together they were same length and what not just very wide.

[frosty]

3 minutes ago, ohihunter2014 said:

I grabbed like

4-5 packs and then seen how the KVD was very wide and thought I better ask seeing how I have never used anything like that before. put together they were same length and what not just very wide.

Yeah some people swear by them, some hate them, I personally don't use them much but I have a few. 

[ohihunter2014]

26 minutes ago, frosty said:

Yeah some people swear by them, some hate them, I personally don't use them much but I have a few. 

would you recommend the gamatsku ones that are smaller?

[frosty]

Just now, ohihunter2014 said:

would you recommend the gamatsku ones that are smaller?

I usually just use the regular ones, but my experience with the ewg hooks is I missed more fish with them. There is a technique to setting the hook with them, it's on here somewhere, search ewg hook set and see if it comes up

[ohihunter2014]

2 minutes ago, frosty said:

I usually just use the regular ones, but my experience with the ewg hooks is I missed more fish with them. There is a technique to setting the hook with them, it's on here somewhere, search ewg hook set and see if it comes up

thanks so much. I have never fished a texas rig before. just want to make sure I'm buying the right things.

[frosty]

Just now, ohihunter2014 said:

thanks so much. I have never fished a texas rig before. just want to make sure I'm buying the right things.

You'll be good with either one, just check out the proper hook set style for the ewg, grab some senkos and catch some bass ??

[RoLo]

Below are 4 popular worm hooks:

Gamakatsu EWG 58 series        (Standard wire for monofilament)

Gamakatsu EWB 74 series        (Heavy wire for braided line)

Owner Wide-Gap Plus               (Triangular point)

Mustad Grip-Pin Flipping Hook   (Rebarb - conical point)
 

3/0 is appropriate for both 7" & 10" Berkley Power Worms

 

Roger

 

 

[Bluebasser86]

I mainly use a 4/0 EWG hook by Eagle Claw, but a 3/0 would be better with a 7" worm. 

[Catt]

Hook size should never be selected based on length!

 

Hook size is selected based on thickness of the plastic!

 

A 2/0 hook is fine for a 6.5" Trick worm but will not work in a 5" Senko!

[LBASS01]

I generally use 3/0 and 4/0 hooks.

[scaleface]

I pick hooks with gaps twice as thick as the worm .  Most of the baits i use dont require EWG's . 

[TOXIC]

EWG is for better hooksets IMHO.  I rarely use straight shank hooks anymore regardless of the thickness of the plastic.  An EWG allows the bait to compress on the hookset and results in better hookups.  Usually in the top of the mouth.  

[scaleface]

7 hours ago, TOXIC said:

EWG is for better hooksets IMHO.  I rarely use straight shank hooks anymore regardless of the thickness of the plastic.  An EWG allows the bait to compress on the hookset and results in better hookups.  Usually in the top of the mouth.  

That may or may not be true , I dont know  . Lightly run a EWG and a standard hook across your arm and see which one digs in best .

 

   ohihunter2014  Whichever hook you choose line it up with the worm before rigging and observe how it lies . Some hooks are best  skin hooked and some buried . EWG's are usually   skin hooked,   standard buried . Personally I prefer to bury the point .

[TOXIC]

I see your point.  Bass "bite" though and I like that with an EWG the bait gets compressed farther giving more room for the hook to do it's job.  Maybe just a confidence thing though.  

[Spankey]

I don't fish worms that size. A lot smaller. 4", 4.5" and 5" so I'm in the 1/0 and 2/0 range. I prefer a light wire straight shank gammy or the rebarb type straight shank. 

 

Those Power Worms are most likely a 4/0 hook not so much a no. 4 as package says. Berkeley power worms are good stuff.

 

A lot of nice worm choices in 6" and 7". I don't know what it is to fish worms that size. I just assume for river smallies they are just too big. 

 

 

[Catt]

43 minutes ago, TOXIC said:

I see your point.  Bass "bite" though and I like that with an EWG the bait gets compressed farther giving more room for the hook to do it's job.  Maybe just a confidence thing though.  

 

Wide gap hooks have the hook point directly in line with the eye of the hook or slightly above the line eye.

 

Straight shank hooks the point rides substantially above the eye of the hook and aims for the roof of the bass’s mouth, resulting in a more hook-ups. 

 

Why y'all think straight shanks are preferred when punching?

 

Quick, fast, solid hookups

[RoLo]

 

I've missed bass with every hook-style made, but I blame myself for that, not any hook.

I use them all, but my best hook-up ratio (and confidence) comes from a straight-shank rebarb hook.

In addition, a bait rigged on a Mustad grip-pin hook stays put, as though it's been superglued.

I've never seen that mentioned by Mustad, I think they're missing a big selling point.

 

Roger

[WRB]

Being old school I prefer straight shank worm hooks like Owner 5100 light wire or 5103 standard wire for T-rig worms. Over 60 years using this type of worm hook successfully, no reason to change.

Tom

[S. Sass]

23 minutes ago, WRB said:

Being old school I prefer straight shank worm hooks like Owner 5100 light wire or 5103 standard wire for T-rig worms. Over 60 years using this type of worm hook successfully, no reason to change.

Tom

Exactly. I have also been using straight shank for years. I tried the EWG and it just never felt the same. I still have some EWGs I had bought and for some baits they do seem to fit the bait OK and do work but the straight shank just has the advantage with the point being so open. Not to mention if you like the action of the snell knot you can use it as well.  

[WRB]

Could get into the physics why a EWG hook with the large wire gap loop creates a cam over that rolls the hook sideways when a bass bites down, but if you are happy why confuse yourself with facts.

Tom

[WI_Angler1989]

I use Gamakatsu 3/0 EWG hooks. They work better for me that normal offset worm hooks, especially for the durability of the worms! It's much easier to rig my 7" Power Worms weedless and make them last for a bunch of fish.

[CTBassin860]

I think i have 1 pack of EWG in my bag.Its all about the Owner twistlocks and offset worm hooks for me.Usually in 3/0 or 4/0