LEWITH Posted February 26, 2017 Posted February 26, 2017 Would the dobyns Fury 735C be to heavy of a rod to pitch primarily 3/8oz jigs? I heard their rods run a power lighter. Thanks! Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted February 26, 2017 Super User Posted February 26, 2017 It will be perfect for 3/8oz - 3/4oz jigs. 2 Quote
LEWITH Posted February 26, 2017 Author Posted February 26, 2017 33 minutes ago, iabass8 said: It will be perfect for 3/8oz - 3/4oz jigs. Awesome was worried it might be to stout for pitching but that's perfect weights! Thanks much Quote
hawgenvy Posted February 26, 2017 Posted February 26, 2017 I have some Champion series 735c and 734c rods. The 734c is my preferred jig rod because it's strong but has some tip, and the 735c I use primarily for hollow body frogs, buzzbaits, and 130 Whopper Ploppers because it's stout enough to set a big frog hook from a good distance away and pull in a fish through weeds. The 5 is a bit too stout for jigs in my opinion, at least with braid line. In fact, today I was jig fishing with the 734c and for about 2 ecstatic minutes I thought I had a 15+ pound LM bass on the line. ("Please be a bass, please be a bass!," I kept saying.) Turns out it was a big old Florida soft shell snapping turtle. I'm glad I got the hook out without getting my finger bit off. Anyway, the 734c set the hook through some awfully tough turtle tissue and handled the ensuing wrestling match very well. My reel was spooled with #40 braid. 1 Quote
LEWITH Posted February 26, 2017 Author Posted February 26, 2017 7 hours ago, hawgenvy said: I have some Champion series 735c and 734c rods. The 734c is my preferred jig rod because it's strong but has some tip, and the 735c I use primarily for hollow body frogs, buzzbaits, and 130 Whopper Ploppers because it's stout enough to set a big frog hook from a good distance away and pull in a fish through weeds. The 5 is a bit too stout for jigs in my opinion, at least with braid line. In fact, today I was jig fishing with the 734c and for about 2 ecstatic minutes I thought I had a 15+ pound LM bass on the line. ("Please be a bass, please be a bass!," I kept saying.) Turns out it was a big old Florida soft shell snapping turtle. I'm glad I got the hook out without getting my finger bit off. Anyway, the 734c set the hook through some awfully tough turtle tissue and handled the ensuing wrestling match very well. My reel was spooled with #40 braid. Thanks for the info! Quote
NYBasser Posted February 26, 2017 Posted February 26, 2017 735 is definitely a bit too heavy for 3/8 oz jigs, it's better as a frogging stick. Stay with the 734c and you'll do just fine. Quote
LEWITH Posted February 26, 2017 Author Posted February 26, 2017 1 minute ago, NYBasser said: 735 is definitely a bit too heavy for 3/8 oz jigs, it's better as a frogging stick. Stay with the 734c and you'll do just fine. What about the 704c? Quote
NYBasser Posted February 26, 2017 Posted February 26, 2017 Just now, LEWITH said: What about the 704c? Pretty much the same rod as the 734c. I just prefer longer rods for the better casting distance and slightly better leverage when playing a fish. Quote
LEWITH Posted February 26, 2017 Author Posted February 26, 2017 1 minute ago, NYBasser said: Pretty much the same rod as the 734c. I just prefer longer rods for the better casting distance and slightly better leverage when playing a fish. Would the 704c be ok to pitch 1/8 and 1/4 Texas rigs as well? Quote
Robert Riley Posted February 26, 2017 Posted February 26, 2017 The 734 sounds like the rod you need. I've got a Savvy 704 and it's too heavy for 1/8. If you are looking for a pitching rod, go with the 734, the taper is a bit faster, and the added length will help you with pitching and setting the hook. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted February 26, 2017 Super User Posted February 26, 2017 I don't know how one can say the 735 is too much rod 3/8oz jig but it's fine throwing frogs. A 3/8oz jig after you add the hook + trailer is closer to 1/2oz which is the same weight as your average frog.....You're pitching a jig /w this rod. I'm going to assume(maybe a bad idea) you're throwing it into cover. I've used the 735 for years. It pitches, casts, skips 3/8oz anything easily and well. As for 1/8oz-1/4oz trigs, get a 3 power. 3 Quote
NYBasser Posted February 26, 2017 Posted February 26, 2017 2 hours ago, iabass8 said: I don't know how one can say the 735 is too much rod 3/8oz jig but it's fine throwing frogs. A 3/8oz jig after you add the hook + trailer is closer to 1/2oz which is the same weight as your average frog.....You're pitching a jig /w this rod. I'm going to assume(maybe a bad idea) you're throwing it into cover. I've used the 735 for years. It pitches, casts, skips 3/8oz anything easily and well. As for 1/8oz-1/4oz trigs, get a 3 power. Personal preference. The 735 is a bit too heavy for me, I prefer something a bit lighter to throw jigs. After all, Dobyns recommends a 4 power rod (744) as their "jig special" anyway. Quote
dam0007 Posted February 26, 2017 Posted February 26, 2017 2 hours ago, iabass8 said: I don't know how one can say the 735 is too much rod 3/8oz jig but it's fine throwing frogs. A 3/8oz jig after you add the hook + trailer is closer to 1/2oz which is the same weight as your average frog.....You're pitching a jig /w this rod. I'm going to assume(maybe a bad idea) you're throwing it into cover. I've used the 735 for years. It pitches, casts, skips 3/8oz anything easily and well. As for 1/8oz-1/4oz trigs, get a 3 power. I'm starting to wonder if some 735 Furys were mismarked from the factory. I read someone saying it was as soft as another brands M. @iabass8 I'm telling you the one I own is stiff beyond belief it feels 2 powers higher than the 734 Fury. It's nothing anywheres close to the champ 735 entirely different animal. When I get some time I gotta text you a vid comparing the tips. That didn't sound right at all lmaoooo ??? Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted February 26, 2017 Super User Posted February 26, 2017 Just now, NYBasser said: Personal preference. The 735 is a bit too heavy for me, I prefer something a bit lighter to throw jigs. After all, Dobyns recommends a 4 power rod (744) as their "jig special" anyway. Correct. However, what you need to understand that not all 3/4/5 power rods are identical through a series and the differene between the 734 and 744 "jig" rod within in the champ series isn't just 1 inch. The champ 744 is "more rod" than the traditonal 734. It's a different rod all together even being the same power. IE. The 735 is a great frog rod. The 795 is one of the finest punch rods and probably their most popular punch rod they make. Both are 5 powers. the 795 can punch a 2oz weight+bait. The 735 is over powered /w a 1 1/4oz weight + bait. The DX702 fishes completely different than the 742. Just now, dam0007 said: I'm starting to wonder if some 735 Furys were mismarked from the factory. I read someone saying it was as soft as another brands M. @iabass8 I'm telling you the one I own is stiff beyond belief it feels 2 powers higher than the 734 Fury. It's nothing anywheres close to the champ 735 entirely different animal. When I get some time I gotta text you a vid comparing the tips. That didn't sound right at all lmaoooo ??? I suppose it's possible. They do sell cheaper mislabeled rods on their website. It is a mass produced 100$ rod. I'm sure there's some goof ups out there. You could have a blunder of a rod. My champ 735 and savvy 735 aren't that different action wise. I can't tell a difference action wise between the savvy and fury 735. Stiff to you is normal to others. You'd probably throw a roman made on DS rod if you could. 2 Quote
dam0007 Posted February 26, 2017 Posted February 26, 2017 1 hour ago, iabass8 said: Correct. However, what you need to understand that not all 3/4/5 power rods are identical through a series and the differene between the 734 and 744 "jig" rod within in the champ series isn't just 1 inch. The champ 744 is "more rod" than the traditonal 734. It's a different rod all together even being the same power. IE. The 735 is a great frog rod. The 795 is one of the finest punch rods and probably their most popular punch rod they make. Both are 5 powers. the 795 can punch a 2oz weight+bait. The 735 is over powered /w a 1 1/4oz weight + bait. The DX702 fishes completely different than the 742. I suppose it's possible. They do sell cheaper mislabeled rods on their website. It is a mass produced 100$ rod. I'm sure there's some goof ups out there. You could have a blunder of a rod. My champ 735 and savvy 735 aren't that different action wise. I can't tell a difference action wise between the savvy and fury 735. Stiff to you is normal to others. You'd probably throw a roman made on DS rod if you could. Lmaooooooo I almost spit my dip out laughing! ????? lol no in all seriousness my Fury 735 Id be willing to try it on a goalith grouper! Lol 1 Quote
NYBasser Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 6 hours ago, iabass8 said: Correct. However, what you need to understand that not all 3/4/5 power rods are identical through a series and the differene between the 734 and 744 "jig" rod within in the champ series isn't just 1 inch. The champ 744 is "more rod" than the traditonal 734. It's a different rod all together even being the same power. IE. The 735 is a great frog rod. The 795 is one of the finest punch rods and probably their most popular punch rod they make. Both are 5 powers. the 795 can punch a 2oz weight+bait. The 735 is over powered /w a 1 1/4oz weight + bait. The DX702 fishes completely different than the 742. 5 Not once did I indicate that all rods within the same power are the same action. Each Dobyns rod fishes slightly different than each other, even if they are of the same model. As @dam0007 pointed out, it's near impossible for a highly produced rod to be equal to every other one. I have fished both the 734 champion and a 744 champion, and in my opinion, the 744 champion isn't "much more" of a rod, the power is just about the same, but it has a much faster tip. Quote
hawgenvy Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 In my opinion the 734 is a more versatile rod than the 735. The Champ 734c can do pretty much anything in bass fishing besides heavy punching or the lightest finesse applications. 1 Quote
ClonesGoneFishin16 Posted March 30, 2017 Posted March 30, 2017 On 2/25/2017 at 9:40 PM, iabass8 said: It will be perfect for 3/8oz - 3/4oz jigs. Do yo think that the Fury 735 could throw chatterbaits and spinnerbaits fairly efficiently? I need a frog rod and a rod that i can throw heavier jigs (1/2-3/4 oz) and swim jigs which is why I think the 735 would be the best fit for those techniques, but I'd like to be able to throw 3/8-3/4 oz spinnerbaits and chatterbaits too.. I know that a 734 would be a better fit though.. How much stiffer is the tip and action is the 735 than the 734? Also, on a scale of 1-10 how good of a frog rod would a 734 be? We'll put the 735 as a 10 on the scale as to how good of a frog rod the 735 is. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted March 30, 2017 Super User Posted March 30, 2017 6 hours ago, ClonesGoneFishin16 said: Do yo think that the Fury 735 could throw chatterbaits and spinnerbaits fairly efficiently? I need a frog rod and a rod that i can throw heavier jigs (1/2-3/4 oz) and swim jigs which is why I think the 735 would be the best fit for those techniques, but I'd like to be able to throw 3/8-3/4 oz spinnerbaits and chatterbaits too.. I know that a 734 would be a better fit though.. How much stiffer is the tip and action is the 735 than the 734? Also, on a scale of 1-10 how good of a frog rod would a 734 be? We'll put the 735 as a 10 on the scale as to how good of a frog rod the 735 is. Yes, while not ideal, the 735 will throw those. the 735 is xf vs the 734 is a fast tip. The 735 shuts off quicker and has more backbone . The 734 would be a 9 for open water frogging and a 6 if fished in cover. I would rather use the 765 or 805 in cover. 1 Quote
GreenGhostMan Posted March 30, 2017 Posted March 30, 2017 I have the Fury 735C and love it. Will be perfect for 3/8 oz and 1/2 oz jigs. 1 Quote
ClonesGoneFishin16 Posted March 30, 2017 Posted March 30, 2017 8 hours ago, iabass8 said: Yes, while not ideal, the 735 will throw those. the 735 is xf vs the 734 is a fast tip. The 735 shuts off quicker and has more backbone . The 734 would be a 9 for open water frogging and a 6 if fished in cover. I would rather use the 765 or 805 in cover. The 735 is a Mag Heavy. I assume that's what you mean by it being an extra fast and hits the backbone quicker..? So you truly believe that the 734 is a 9/10 for open water frogging if we say the 735 is a 10/10? Fascinating.. Hmmmm, I also have a 6'8 MH/F Fenwick Aetos. I'm just trying to fill 1 power slot heavier by getting the 734 or 735.. I don't do anything flipping or pitching being that I fish from shore.. Well, if the 734 would hold up to frogging, which I do mostly open water frogging, and it fits the bill better for spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, swim jigs, and heavier jigs then I'd probably roll with a 734.. What lb braid would you spool? Would you spool 65 lb on the 734? I'd tie a fluoro leader when need be. How is the tip on the 734? I know that's a broad/tough question to ask, but your best short description would be appreciated. Thanks man. BTW, I'm from Ames, IA. Where are you from? Quote
BassThumb Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 I haven't used the Fury 735, but I have a pair of the Champ 735 and Champ Extreme 745. I prefer the 5-power for tossing jigs and worms. As far as the actions go, the Champion 734 is a bit slower/softer than any of the above-mentioned rods. I feel it's better suited for moving baits like 3/8-3/4 oz spinnerbaits, buzzbaits, bladed jigs, topwater walkers, and large squarebills. It's my favorite rod for those. I didn't particularly like it for jigs and worms. It's just a little bit too soft in the tip for jigging, especially if you're fishing around a lot of weeds, like in MN lakes. Quote
Airman4754 Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 I just got a 745 Dobyn's tonight and was throwing a 3/8oz jigs on it. It's definitely not too stiff. Quote
Robert Riley Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 39 minutes ago, Mosster47 said: I just got a 745 Dobyn's tonight and was throwing a 3/8oz jigs on it. It's definitely not too stiff. Like the Extreme Series? Quote
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