Combo Suffix 832 w/flouro leader

[CybrSlydr]

I've been very pleased with my combination of Berkley Fireline and Stren Flourocast.  The only problem is I think I went too light. 

 

I've got 8lb Fireline and 6lb flourocast - while it works great and casts very well, I think I want something a bit beefier when the lures get stuck.

 

So, I was thinking of getting some Suffix 832 in 20lb and some 10lb flourocarbon, maybe 12.  Thus far the double uni knot has held extremely well - every time I've actually broken off as the flouro snaps below the knot.  This will be on a spinning setup.

 

I'm contemplating the 832 because it's a high-strength/small diameter line that will help me cast as far as possible (important when you're shorebound).  I'm also considering the upgrade to 10lb flouro just so I've got some more strength on the lure-end so I might not lose as many as I have.  lol

 

Going from the 8lb Fireline to the 20lb 832 is an increase of only .002, so I figure casting should be similar.  

[PatrickKnight]

I use 10 lb regular Power Pro and 8lb Stren original mono and I have no issues getting lures unstuck (pretty easy for me to bend out hooks with this set up).

[J Francho]

I've been using 20# 832 yellow with a leader on this rod for a few years now.  One of my favorite setups for general finesse fishing, where you need to strength in the system to deal with weeds, or other cover.  I always use an Alberto know.  Uni-Uni has failed me.  The knot works for those that use it, until it fails.  Like any other knot, it's usually the person tying them, so always take that with a grain a salt.

 

http://www.bassresource.com/fishing_lures/pinnacle-DHC5-performa-review.html

[Turkey sandwich]

I use 832 on my casting reels with a variety of leaders and Power Pro slick on my spinning combos (I like the high vis line for line watching) typically with 6-10lb leaders.  I like both lines a lot. 

 

That said, what kinds of snags are you running into?  Heavy line isn't always the solution.  If you're hanging on trees/rocks, what you do to get un-stuck is more important than the line you're stuck with.  Also, abrasion resistance in your leaders is probably more important than test strength for the above scenarios. 

[J Francho]

2 minutes ago, Turkey sandwich said:

That said, what kinds of snags are you running into?  Heavy line isn't always the solution.

 

Good point!  I use a heavier leader with lighter hooks if I'm near wood or dock pilings.  I'd rather bend the light hook out and retie.  If it's rocky stuff, I'll probably have to retie or trim the leader, so a little lighter, where a snag will break off near the hook is a better.  It's never a 100% science, but that's my plan.

[Turkey sandwich]

Bingo.  Sometimes you can do the snap trick, other times release pressure to allowed a lure to float free, and sometimes you may need to reposition yourself to shake the lure free.  In none of those instances is breaking strength a major indicator of success (at least at 8lb test or heavier).

[PatrickKnight]

3 minutes ago, J Francho said:

 

Good point!  I use a heavier leader with lighter hooks if I'm near wood or dock pilings.  I'd rather bend the light hook out and retie.  If it's rocky stuff, I'll probably have to retie or trim the leader, so a little lighter, where a snag will break off near the hook is a better.  It's never a 100% science, but that's my plan.

 

I do the exact same thing

[CybrSlydr]

16 minutes ago, Turkey sandwich said:

I use 832 on my casting reels with a variety of leaders and Power Pro slick on my spinning combos (I like the high vis line for line watching) typically with 6-10lb leaders.  I like both lines a lot. 

 

That said, what kinds of snags are you running into?  Heavy line isn't always the solution.  If you're hanging on trees/rocks, what you do to get un-stuck is more important than the line you're stuck with.  Also, abrasion resistance in your leaders is probably more important than test strength for the above scenarios. 

Occasionally I'll get something in a tree, sometimes hung up with rocks/branches/vegetation underwater where I can't see.

[J Francho]

Sounds like solid bass fishing.  If you aren't getting hung up, you're doing it wrong!

[CybrSlydr]

4 minutes ago, J Francho said:

Sounds like solid bass fishing.  If you aren't getting hung up, you're doing it wrong!

lol  I would think a better judge of if you're doing it right is if you actually catch fish.

[J Francho]

Catching has nothing to do with fishing, LMAO.

[Turkey sandwich]

6 minutes ago, CybrSlydr said:

Occasionally I'll get something in a tree, sometimes hung up with rocks/branches/vegetation underwater where I can't see.

 

Learning how to feel your lure and the bottom will help in identifying your snags, as well as simply looking around to see what's around the shore/the water you can see into and realizing that in most bodies of water, what's underneath the water doesn't look all that much different from the shoreline. 

[CybrSlydr]

1 minute ago, J Francho said:

Catching has nothing to do with fishing, LMAO.

You sound like Colonel Jack O'neill - two L's.

[Darren.]

1 minute ago, CybrSlydr said:

You sound like Colonel Jack O'neill - two L's.

 

50 points to Gryffindor for SG1 reference.

 

[new2BC4bass]

I use the Uni for all terminal connections.  For splicing lines I like the Alberto or Albright, but a new one I want to start using is the FG knot.

 

 

[CybrSlydr]

58 minutes ago, Darren. said:

 

50 points to Gryffindor for SG1 reference.

 

 

SG1 was my first love - I adored that show!

[Darren.]

43 minutes ago, CybrSlydr said:

 

SG1 was my first love - I adored that show!

 

Loved it, too. Watched it and Atlantis on streaming

before it was dumped this year  Now ya have to

pay to watch. SG1 one of my fav shows ever.

[fishnkamp]

Since you are used to FireLine you could do what i do. On all of my spinning gear I run 14 pound FireLine. I then tie on 4 feet of P Line CXX in 8 or 10 pound test. I have used that setup in tanc colored tidal water, and deep clear lakes out in TN an KY.  That CXX 10 pound line works fine using a double uni knot. The FireLine is .009 in diameter and is the same size diameter as 6 pound Trilene XT. The P Line CXX moss green copolymer line in 10 pound is .014 and breaks at 23 pounds, the 8 pound is .012 and breaks close to 16 pounds.

 

The other option is to use Suffix 832 in the 20 pound and again match it with say the P LIne CXX in 8 pound test moss green (moss green CXX has tested stronger than their other cxx lines, no idea why)  I have that combo on two of my baitcasters.  I like 832 except for frogging and pitching/punching. In heavy vegetation I prefer Power Pro, that stuff cuts like a weed eater.

[Angry John]

Another option that has not been covered that may be worth a look is using very thin wire hooks.  If your line cannot handle heavy weight hooks then you can go much lighter, get much better hook penetration, and bend them out if you get hung up.  Look at trebles like the ones people use on jerkbaits. 

[WRB]

I never use hooks that can be straightened out with the line I am using, I what the line to break 1st, it would fail fighting a big bass!

Tom

[runt4561]

go on youtube and learn how to tie the "FG Knot". I was a die hard double uni fan until I tried this knot. it is stronger than than the uni.

[MassYak85]

13 hours ago, J Francho said:

I've been using 20# 832 yellow with a leader on this rod for a few years now.  One of my favorite setups for general finesse fishing, where you need to strength in the system to deal with weeds, or other cover.  I always use an Alberto know.  Uni-Uni has failed me.  The knot works for those that use it, until it fails.  Like any other knot, it's usually the person tying them, so always take that with a grain a salt.

 

http://www.bassresource.com/fishing_lures/pinnacle-DHC5-performa-review.html

I do something similar, 15# yellow 832 + a leader is what's on my finesse setup. Actually that's what I've been doing on any of my spinning setups lately although I do mix around the braid a bit. 

[Angry John]

6 hours ago, WRB said:

I never use hooks that can be straightened out with the line I am using, I what the line to break 1st, it would fail fighting a big bass!

Tom

How often do you bass fish from shore and hook into a tree???  Many a bass has been caught on a jerkbait and if the primary problem is getting your lure back what does it hurt.  Using stronger line is an option but the other side is just as feasible.  He would not be upgrading his line if just breaking off was ok.

[WRB]

The only 2 things you have between you and the bass is your line and hook, if either fails no bass! Inferior weak hooks that straighten using 10 lb leader is not acceptable.

Tom

[PatrickKnight]

5 hours ago, WRB said:

The only 2 things you have between you and the bass is your line and hook, if either fails no bass! Inferior weak hooks that straighten using 10 lb leader is not acceptable.

Tom

 

I honestly think this depends more on where he is fishing and the size fish he is going after. Judging by the bruiser in your avatar pic id say you guys are targeting different size bass. I fish a lot of light wire hooks on one of my river set ups because I would rather straighten a hook than continue to pile trash in my local river. I also do not think there are many if any smallmouth bass in southwest Ohio that can not be handled on 10 lb braided line. Also he stated he is shore bound which means if he is snagged and cant straighten the hook to pull the snag to him odds are a lot of line will be left in the body of water.