Patrick Kinard Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 Im looking into getting the daiwa tatula ct and i dont know what ratio to get for all around. Im looking into the 7.3.1 ratio but im woried im going to loose torque so im steering towards the 6.3.1 ratio but i just want to know what you guys think is the best all around do everything ratio. i have my curado in the HG and the x ship keeps the torque like a lower gear ratio but i know the tatula doesnst have that so what are your guy's thoughts? Quote
mwh33 Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 I like 7:1 ratios for all my reels except deep cranks. I can always slow down, but you can't always speed up fast enough. Quote
Patrick Kinard Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, mwh33 said: I like 7:1 ratios for all my reels except deep cranks. I can always slow down, but you can't always speed up fast enough. that is true and i have been thinking that, what about the torque? Quote
Super User Angry John Posted February 17, 2017 Super User Posted February 17, 2017 I use the 6.3 on many of my reels. 7.1 on my zillion works just fine and I also have a 7.2 alphas which is great. The trend is ever faster. 6.3 works well on moving presentations. The only time I feel the need for the 7.1 is frogging. Quote
mwh33 Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 I have never had a problem with the torque on my 7:1 or 8:1 daiwas. Quote
Patrick Kinard Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 5 hours ago, mwh33 said: I have never had a problem with the torque on my 7:1 or 8:1 daiwas. Ohh okay, so you don't find it a little harder to reel in the higher ratio, and it's it more likely to strip gears too if your horsing a fish out of deep cover or catch on to a massive fish with the high gear ratio Quote
Patrick Kinard Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 Will it feel like when I'm reeling a 3 pound fish it will feel like a 6 or 5? Because of the high ratio Quote
Brett's_daddy Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 I don't have a Tatula CT but am thinking of getting one soon. I have always been told (whether right or wrong, just what I've been told) that the 6.3 (or .4 or .8) is the best all around gear ratio and can be used for just about everything from deep cranks to spinnerbaits and jigs. Now, will it excel at a particular bait...no, other gear ratios will work better for specific baits but this 6 gear ratio will work good for just about anything. Just my .02 :). Quote
Patrick Kinard Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 58 minutes ago, Brett's_daddy said: I don't have a Tatula CT but am thinking of getting one soon. I have always been told (whether right or wrong, just what I've been told) that the 6.3 (or .4 or .8) is the best all around gear ratio and can be used for just about everything from deep cranks to spinnerbaits and jigs. Now, will it excel at a particular bait...no, other gear ratios will work better for specific baits but this 6 gear ratio will work good for just about anything. Just my .02 :). Thank you, I just keep getting mixed opinions on these ratios, the 7.3.1 goes for 30.5 it. The 6.3 goes for 25 or 26 I think Quote
Brett's_daddy Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Patrick Kinard said: The 6.3 goes for 25 or 26 I think Just think, most high speed spinning reels are right around this range...have you had any success with them? No reason to think it wouldn't be fine on a casting reel either IMO. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 17, 2017 Super User Posted February 17, 2017 Minor correction: most high speed spinning reels are more like 30-35 IPT. Generally, if you are fighting the fish correctly, you move the fish with the rod, and make up the ground you made by reeling, and moving the rod back at the fish, and then repeating. Small fish don't really matter, you can generally reel them in. I've never noticed much a difference in torque when fighting a fish. I definitely have a preference of what is more comfortable for retrieves of different baits. Anyone that says torque is an issue is exaggerating. IPT for most reels can generally found in the specs on the company's product web site. The only time I pay attention to this is when comparing a reel to one I already own. So, say I want another spinnerbait reel, that is similar to the one I like using. I compare the IPT so can expect a similar retrieve with the new reel. Quote
Brett's_daddy Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 15 minutes ago, J Francho said: IPT for most reels can generally found in the specs on the company's product web site. The only time I pay attention to this is when comparing a reel to one I already own. So, say I want another spinnerbait reel, that is similar to the one I like using. I compare the IPT so can expect a similar retrieve with the new reel. So getting back to the OP's original question...which do you think would be better suited to an all-around gear ratio, 6.3:1 or 7.3:1? 1 Quote
Patrick Kinard Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Brett's_daddy said: So getting back to the OP's original question...which do you think would be better suited to an all-around gear ratio, 6.3:1 or 7.3:1? Please lol I'm sooooo confused 1 hour ago, Brett's_daddy said: So getting back to the OP's original question...which do you think would be better suited to an all-around gear ratio, 6.3:1 or 7.3:1? Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 17, 2017 Super User Posted February 17, 2017 Honestly, whatever you get, you'll probably learn to like it. I use 6 to 7:1 range reels for gen.purpose. Quote
Patrick Kinard Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 I would be happy to get the 7.3.1 ratio, I'm just worried about how hard it will be to reel in that big fish without stripping my gears, because there is alot more pressure on those gears with a higher ratio Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 17, 2017 Super User Posted February 17, 2017 It won't be hard to reel in a big fish. Ratio makes no difference. Move the fish with the rod. Guys that argue the torque thing do most of their fishing behind a keyboard. I've caught fish three and four times larger than a typical bass with a high speed reel and never felt like there was a too much torque. It's such a silly debate. Here's a little guy I caught on a 7:1 reel: Quote
Patrick Kinard Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 Well I just called my local retailer, they only have the 6.3.1 ratio and in the type r they have the 7.3.1 so I can order it in the 7.3.1 or go get it in the 6.3.1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 17, 2017 Super User Posted February 17, 2017 For most moving baits, the 6.3 will be fine. For contact baits like jigs and plastics, I use a faster reel, though I don't feel like a 6.3 is a disadvantage. Quote
Super User fishnkamp Posted February 17, 2017 Super User Posted February 17, 2017 Here is my 2cents. I fish a total of 7 Diawa reels, 1 Exceler, 4 Tatula Type Rs and a pair of CTs. I fish 6.3-1 for small to medium crankbaits, square bills,traps, spinnerbaits,jerkbaits, poppers and smaller topwaters, chatterbaits and small to mid sized jigs and worms. I prefer 7-1 or 7.3 to 1 reels for deep water jigs, carolina rigs, and 8-1 on big topwaters like Zara Spooks and frogs. The high speed is there to aid in retrieving line fast so I can recast to a fish that misses it. The rod should be used to fight a fish and the reel is used more to recover the line. If I could only have 1 reel it would be a 6.3-1. I think that is the most useful gear ratio. If you would send me an email to fishnkamp@comcast.net I will show you where to get a brand new Tatula CT for $100 including shipping. My friends and I have ordered over a dozen reels from this dealer so far this year. I just can not share it here or it gets **** ed out. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted February 17, 2017 Super User Posted February 17, 2017 Triace Tackle on Ebay has them for $100 and you even get a nice reel cover with it. It's not difficult to find them for that price. As for gear ratio buy what you want. 6:3-7:3 will be fine for all purpose bass fishing. Quote
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