Tatula SV

[dam0007]

1 hour ago, rippin-lips said:

It should be fine. That's something I've never heard of happening. If the spools are the same size then they're usually interchangeable with other Daiwa reels. You can put one in and just slowly turn the handle. You'll know right away if it's not gonna work. 

Seems a little tight. :/ Does look better tho lol with the black spool and silver accents. I brought this up to DVT a couple weeks ago, feels like it operates the same I'll play around with it some more and tighten the cast control slowly, see where I end up. Purpose is to have deeper spools on my Crazy Crankers. When my higher gear ratio USDM modes don't need additional line for what I use them for. 

[reason162]

49 minutes ago, dam0007 said:

So my opinion of them using the same spool material with 2 different logos, marketing, is a "end all conclusion", while still searching out the information to affirm or change my opinion???? Rippin Lips and others contributed to the post and you're trolling for what??? 

 

End of story the spool is the same material, 2 different logos in play, both fact, then through a contributor to the forum we discovered the inductor and spring is what is making the difference, also fact. 

 

 

 

These are questions: 

"The brand spanking new Tatula SV is a A7075 SV spool?"

"So basically what I'm getting at is the new model is a type r shallow spool with a SV logo?"

 

These are conclusions: 

"Seems to me as a pure marketing thing."

"Just seems to me it's more marketing than anything else at this point."

 

See the difference? 

 

[dam0007]

50 minutes ago, reason162 said:

 

These are questions: 

"The brand spanking new Tatula SV is a A7075 SV spool?"

"So basically what I'm getting at is the new model is a type r shallow spool with a SV logo?"

 

These are conclusions: 

"Seems to me as a pure marketing thing."

"Just seems to me it's more marketing than anything else at this point."

 

See the difference? 

 

Cool story bro! 

[rippin-lips]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWapUri0wlU

 

The SV spool cycle of operation:

1. At standstill the inductor is recessed.
2. As the spool turns on cast the resistance on the inductor begins creating a torque between inductor and the rest the spool. 
3. This torque turns the cam pushing the inductor, increases braking and further pushing the inductor out. 
4. As RPM lower as do torque, braking force and extension of the inductor until it reaches back to resting point. It takes somewhere between 1/8 to 1/16 of a turn from rest to full extension of the inductor.

What this inductor does is provide max brakes at the middle of the cast, since it works on the turning momentum it is less reliant on higher RPMs as the Mag V/Z does.

Advantages: 
1. better control in low speed casting
2. lighter system weight compared with the mag Z
3. braking backs off at the end of the cast to allow a longer cast.

[Brett's_daddy]

5 minutes ago, rippin-lips said:

3. braking backs off at the end of the cast to allow a longer cast.

 

I thought the regular Tatula CT also does this?

[dam0007]

16 minutes ago, rippin-lips said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWapUri0wlU

 

The SV spool cycle of operation:

1. At standstill the inductor is recessed.
2. As the spool turns on cast the resistance on the inductor begins creating a torque between inductor and the rest the spool. 
3. This torque turns the cam pushing the inductor, increases braking and further pushing the inductor out. 
4. As RPM lower as do torque, braking force and extension of the inductor until it reaches back to resting point. It takes somewhere between 1/8 to 1/16 of a turn from rest to full extension of the inductor.

What this inductor does is provide max brakes at the middle of the cast, since it works on the turning momentum it is less reliant on higher RPMs as the Mag V/Z does.

Advantages: 
1. better control in low speed casting
2. lighter system weight compared with the mag Z
3. braking backs off at the end of the cast to allow a longer cast.

So cool how that works. That makes complete sense as to how it allows it to cast the super light baits. Do the SV finesse reels like the 105/alphas/etc have the same system or is it tweaked to those reels specific? 

 

[rippin-lips]

2 minutes ago, dam0007 said:

So cool how that works. That makes complete sense as to how it allows it to cast the super light baits. Do the SV finesse reels like the 105/alphas/etc have the same system or is it tweaked to those reels specific? 

 

Yes, same system. Daiwa calls it air brake. Certain reels could have a different spring but so far every one that I've swapped the spring on has felt the same stiffness. If it's a Megabass variant then that could have a different spring since they tune/tweak factory Daiwas and then sell them under their name.  

27 minutes ago, Brett's_daddy said:

 

I thought the regular Tatula CT also does this?

You can google how magforce Z and V work. Hopefully that will clear it up for you. 

[fishnkamp]

If you go look up Magforce Z on youtube there is a video showing and explaining some of the differences between Magforce, magforce Z and magforce 3d, which shares a lot in common with the sv system

[FryDog62]

So... bottom line - will the new Tatula SV TW skip a weightless plastic as well as the Zillion SV TW does and without backlash?

[Columbia Craw]

Once upon a time there was a simple minded fisherman who liked to try new equipment and was kind of looking for something better.  Well he bought a mid tier Diawa casting reel.  The simple minded angler took it out and gave the reel a shot. Well he couldn't get it to cast well at all.  It also made a high pitch sound during hard casts. The angler could not figure the issue out and chalked it up as a brand he wouldn't purchase in the future.

 

Much later, the angler read some comments on a FORUM and found out, the inductor on a magforce Z Diawa can become torqued off center and not retract properly.  Pulling the inductor out, gently, and allowing the spring to re-seat it would have fixed the issue. The angler changed his opinion of the brand and now fishes happily ever after with other Diawa products, some with the SV spool/casting feature.  It's wonderful how a little question or dialogue and answer can help someone who wasn't  going to ask that question to begin with. Well done Rippin-Lips.