Big spooled spinning reels?

[Smokinal]

I'm looking to upgrade 2 of my reels. One I use for jerkbaits and I wouldn't mind a little more casting distance with that one. Other I use for the Ned rig and that one is fine. The general concensus is to go with the Pflueger President, which I like the looks/sounds of. But I was also looking at the Pflueger Arbor because of the larger spool. Has anyone used this style spool/reel before. Is there a big enough difference in distance to use this style? I see the gear ratios are lower on the Arbor but line retrieval rate is the same, if not a little more. Any drawbacks to the larger spool?

I use braid/leader fwiw.

Thanks

Oh, and I'm currently using older Shimano Sedona 2000FA reels so either will be a good upgrade. Probably go with a 25 or 30 in whichever one I choose.

[fishnkamp]

I use a lot of Pflueger Presidents. They are my go to reel.  If you want a bit more casting distance a 30 or even 35 will help.  More line capacity and line coming off a larger arbor as well.  Personally I have never used the large arbor reel, I know the idea was the larger arbor helped with distance and also helped with line coiling. I am not sure if either is true.  Some of the Johnny Morris reels were like that if I remember correctly.  In addition to my Presidents I did get an Okuma RTX 30. It is a quality reel, composite body parts so it is super light and it casts extremely well also. It has a bit higher retrieve rate also. 

[eyedabassman]

I myself would not go to a bigger reel.it does change the balance of the reel /rod setup.But before I would go bigger I would down size my line and go braid for more distance! 

[WRB]

Larger diameter spinning reel spool helps to reduce memory set in monofilament lines forming coils that cause line to slap the giudes during a cast, no casting distance advantage using braid over what you already have regarding spool size.

The most important factor is the reels drag performance.

Good luck,

Tom

[Smokinal]

12 minutes ago, WRB said:

 no casting distance advantage using braid over what you already have regarding spool size.

 

This is what I was thinking. I'm using 10 lb Sufix Nanobraid and the stuff really floats off the spool as it is. Maybe I'll stick with the President.

[Angry John]

I have never used the arbor but the idea is sound.  Having a larger shallow spool should give you less problems while using flouro and line popping off the spool.  If your main line is braid then your would realize no benefit.  I have been hoping that the larger manufactures would move to make this style.  Daiwa uses larger reels with shallow spools like the 2506.  If you get it let us know how you like it!

 

[SFL BassHunter]

President or Helios. I love my Helios so far. It is big but it's light.

Drag is smooth as butter, reeling is as well. The lime green turns some people off though. I like the lime green so no biggy.

[bigturtle]

If you are using braid, the only thing a bigger spool offers is a bit more line intake per turn of the handle. line memory dont affect braid, so an increase in casting distance that would be seen on mono/fluoro isnt there for braid. I guess the other thing is heavier reel, if you need that for balance.

[Sammies77]

30 minutes ago, WRB said:

Larger diameter spinning reel spool helps to reduce memory set in monofilament lines forming coils that cause line to slap the giudes during a cast, no casting distance advantage using braid over what you already have regarding spool size.

The most important factor is the reels drag performance.

Good luck,

Tom

Spool up a 1000 size shimano or 25 size pflueger next to a 4000 shimano or 35 size pflueger with 10lb braid and cast the same bait on the same rod and see which casts farther. 

 

 

[.ghoti.]

I built a rod for my brother just for An Arbor reel. He let me have it to play with and get the seat in the right place. That thing was an excellent casting machine. I was impressed. I compared it to my Pfleugers; two Supreme XTs; one 25 and one 30. The Arbor outcasted both be a very noticeable margin.

[WPCfishing]

My brother has 4 Abu Garcia SX reels. The 30/35? Is a hell of a reel. 

[tkunk]

On 2/16/2017 at 1:45 PM, WRB said:

Larger diameter spinning reel spool helps to reduce memory set in monofilament lines forming coils that cause line to slap the giudes during a cast, no casting distance advantage using braid over what you already have regarding spool size.

The most important factor is the reels drag performance.

Good luck,

Tom

There are two sources of friction when you cast: The friction caused by the line unwrapping as it leaves the spool, and the friction caused by the the line as it turns around the spool.  For spinning reels, the former is by far the biggest source of friction, so increasing the spool diameter increases casting distance.

[WRB]

I agree that monofilament with a Full spool of line that is both larger diameter and longer with higher line capacity reduces line friction coming of the spool. Daiwa's SS spinning reels with long tapered spools cast good. With small diameter braided yarn with Teflon or other lubricant impregnated fibers, there is very little friction as long as the spool is filled properly. The line whipping and stacking up agianst the 1st 2 rod guides causes a lot of friction with spinning reels. The bigger diameter the spool is the larger diameter the 1st 2 guides need to be. The MicroWave guide system would be a good choice to increase casting distance with spinning rods/reels.

Tom

[Angry John]

I am big on the idea of the X27 guide train just looking for the money to try one out