Super User WRB Posted February 10, 2017 Super User Posted February 10, 2017 30 years ago skirts were vinyl or rubber, somebody had to make a production run of common chartreuse layer with a rare pink layer, then somebody put it on the shelf and it worked. Great story Tom 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted February 10, 2017 Author Super User Posted February 10, 2017 4 hours ago, WRB said: 30 years ago skirts were vinyl or rubber, somebody had to make a production run of common chartreuse layer with a rare pink layer, then somebody put it on the shelf and it worked. Great story Tom Toledo Tackle sold tackle of all kinds under their name, who actually made it IDK! Quote
CaptMikeStarrett Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 So as a scientific research trip my RUD - Capt Steve showed up with his bright new combo color selector he had to buy. He dropped in the water and at about 4 feet it said blue.. he used a blue ring worm. I went the other way and used a red ring worm. He caught and landed 3 to 1 my 6 bass. So we did it again four days later his device said black so went with tomato. I caught 12 and he only one. The final time he used it was two weeks later and green was indicated. I choose black and he caught over a dozen to my big zero. This is not about the device but rather about color can make a difference. But do not get all hung up about it. Instead just change colors till it works. This only applies to slow moving baits. Fast moving baits is all about the movement... Capt Mike Also need to change the tag line to 25 plus years... Quote
Super User scaleface Posted February 11, 2017 Super User Posted February 11, 2017 13 minutes ago, CaptMikeStarrett said: So as a scientific research trip my RUD - Capt Steve showed up with his bright new combo color selector he had to buy. I would like to have one of those things . I use to have a light/temperature meter that was a eye opener . Light and temp always plummeted together and if there was a thermocline , thats where the big change would be . Quote
Super User RoLo Posted February 11, 2017 Super User Posted February 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, scaleface said: I would like to have one of those things . I use to have a light/temperature meter that was a eye opener . Light and temp always plummeted together and if there was a thermocline , thats where the big change would be . My wife has one of those things, and she outfishes routinely. Eventually though, she grew tired of taking the color readings, and now it just collects dust. Nevertheless, she still outfishes me routinely 1 Quote
Super User RoLo Posted February 11, 2017 Super User Posted February 11, 2017 9 hours ago, WRB said: 30 years ago skirts were vinyl or rubber, somebody had to make a production run of common chartreuse layer with a rare pink layer, then somebody put it on the shelf and it worked. Great story Tom Those early vinyl skirts were a horror show! I lived in Jersey at the time, and when I opened my tackle box every spring, the vinyl skirts were stiff, gummy and the tentacles were melted together. I'm sure those early skirts gave a nice boost to Uncle Josh's pork rind market...LOL Roger 1 Quote
Super User Raul Posted February 11, 2017 Super User Posted February 11, 2017 3 hours ago, CaptMikeStarrett said: So as a scientific research trip my RUD - Capt Steve showed up with his bright new combo color selector he had to buy. He dropped in the water and at about 4 feet it said blue.. he used a blue ring worm. I went the other way and used a red ring worm. He caught and landed 3 to 1 my 6 bass. So we did it again four days later his device said black so went with tomato. I caught 12 and he only one. The final time he used it was two weeks later and green was indicated. I choose black and he caught over a dozen to my big zero. This is not about the device but rather about color can make a difference. But do not get all hung up about it. Instead just change colors till it works. This only applies to slow moving baits. Fast moving baits is all about the movement... Capt Mike Also need to change the tag line to 25 plus years... I have one of those and the only reason why it hasn't found it's way into the trash is because I inherited from my friend Poncho after he passed away and it has sentimental value. 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted February 13, 2017 Author Super User Posted February 13, 2017 Now the next big question! Was it really color? Or was it the "rhythm" I was reeling the spinnerbait at? Or was it simply the bass in my area were more aggressive? 2 Quote
Super User WRB Posted February 13, 2017 Super User Posted February 13, 2017 You have to be on active bass to catch them. If you don't have confidence in what you are using the lure or color usually stays in the tackle box. In this situation after fishing a few days you had a good idea of depth and cadence and gave the odd color spinnerbait a try and dought you would have stayed with it if it didn't work. Sometimes you make a cast and start catching em. Tom 1 Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted February 13, 2017 Super User Posted February 13, 2017 4 hours ago, Catt said: Now the next big question! Was it really color? Or was it the "rhythm" I was reeling the spinnerbait at? Or was it simply the bass in my area were more aggressive? For all we know, it was just as likely your lucky pair of underwear that day that made the difference Honestly, you were there and I get the feeling you don't even know the answer for certain. There's just no way to tease out all the variables with any degree of absolute certainty. -T9 3 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted February 13, 2017 Super User Posted February 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, Team9nine said: For all we know, it was just as likely your lucky pair of underwear that day that made the difference Honestly, you were there and I get the feeling you don't even know the answer for certain. There's just no way to tease out all the variables with any degree of absolute certainty. -T9 And as long as it's just the bait that's colored Dirty Sanchez - I think you're good. A-Jay 3 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted February 13, 2017 Super User Posted February 13, 2017 In a buddy tournament , my cousin out-fished me six keepers to zero and we were using the exact same bait and color . Six inch Black Grape Lizards . Sometimes you just get whipped . I got even the next event . Quote
Super User Catt Posted February 13, 2017 Author Super User Posted February 13, 2017 4 hours ago, Team9nine said: For all we know, it was just as likely your lucky pair of underwear that day that made the difference Honestly, you were there and I get the feeling you don't even know the answer for certain. There's just no way to tease out all the variables with any degree of absolute certainty. -T9 5 hours ago, WRB said: You have to be on active bass to catch them. If you don't have confidence in what you are using the lure or color usually stays in the tackle box. In this situation after fishing a few days you had a good idea of depth and cadence and gave the odd color spinnerbait a try and dought you would have stayed with it if it didn't work. Sometimes you make a cast and start catching em. Tom Once we get a pattern down to color I believe there are to many variables to really know for certain. There are times that give the illusion color matters & there are times that give the illusion color doesn't matter. If it's catching ya keep throwing it...if it's not ya change it! 4 Quote
frogflogger Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 I fished for almost a year with black or white lures - worked very well - I've found times when color was a deal maker or breaker but usually there are a lot of other things that come before color selection. 1 Quote
blckshirt98 Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 If the pros can catch fish using 3-4 colors, color is probably not the most important factor to a fish looking for a meal. Quote
"hamma" Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 On 2/13/2017 at 8:06 AM, Catt said: Now the next big question! Was it really color? Or was it the "rhythm" I was reeling the spinnerbait at? Or was it simply the bass in my area were more aggressive? Probably all the above and then some. 1 Quote
Mumbly Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 I had asked @Bluebasser86not long ago for his thoughts on using a craw colored crankbait for smallmouth in clear lakes that are void of crawdads. No one up here fishes craw colored baits as they don't believe they will work. It suddenly dawned on me that the smallmouth up here probably haven't seen that color before and thus I am going to try and see what happens. Should be an interesting experiment. 2 Quote
saamyb Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 Natural colors in clear and dark in stained. Big baits in stained and small baits in clear. Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted February 16, 2017 Super User Posted February 16, 2017 On February 8, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Darren. said: That's it, I'm throwing black from now on. It's the combination of ALL colors, so should work all the time!! Just kidding. Good writeup, @Catt. Something to think about (and @WRB)... Actually black is the absence of all color, white is the combination of all colors, wait,... you're on a kayak, you are correct, everything is bassakwards there... 1 Quote
Super User Darren. Posted February 16, 2017 Super User Posted February 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, reason said: Actually black is the absence of all color, white is the combination of all colors, wait,... you're on a kayak, you are correct, everything is bassakwards there... Ya know, that's correct, color-wise. In terms of light reflection and all that. But if I take a bunch of crayons and scribble over top of each one, it doesn't turn white, it gets darker and darker. At least to my eyes. Then again, the dress was gold to me... I love physics. But I also hate physics. 2 Quote
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