MDbassin Posted February 6, 2017 Posted February 6, 2017 I have a couple questions here. 1. I know there isn't a company standard for the whole IM ratings but are million modulus ratings and ton ratings accurate to go by? I have sent an email to Dobyns before asking about there rods and Gary said the best way is by the ton... which btw the fury series is 36 ton toray graphite just in case y'all were wondering 2. When a company says they use this graphite or that graphite is the whole rod made of that graphite or just the majority? 3. This one is kind of a brand choosing type question the SCIII graphite in the Mojo is 38 million modulus the graphite in the lews custom speed stick is 60 million modulus. Does this mean the lews is a better rod? More sensitive? And if yes that begs the question if the graphite is that much better why are they the same price? I know other things like other components play a factor but are the components on the Mojo that much better or are you just paying for the fact it says St. Croix on the side of it? Quote
EvanT123 Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 I looked and looked and couldn't find it. There was a post a longtime back by a former member .rm that answered many of the questions you posted. I think the gist was those designations mean little. How the graphite is rolled, the mandrel and what I think is called prepeg play a large role in the quality of the blank. I wouldnt get to hung up on the terms; if the rod feels good to you fish it. Quote
bigturtle Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 doesnt matter, just get the rod you want. 1 Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 A blank can contain more than one modulus of graphite and they'll always promote the highest number even though it accounts for a fraction of the content. A whole rod of 60 million probably wouldn't even bend. Scrim, resins, mandrels, design and processes all factor into the final product. 6 Quote
Super User fishnkamp Posted February 7, 2017 Super User Posted February 7, 2017 Those details are made to confuse you. It is advertising material as far as I am concerned. 2 Quote
Turkey sandwich Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 49 minutes ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said: A blank can contain more than one modulus of graphite and they'll always promote the highest number even though it accounts for a fraction of the content. A whole rod of 60 million probably wouldn't even bend. Scrim, resins, mandrels, design and processes all factor into the final product. This. Quote
MDbassin Posted February 7, 2017 Author Posted February 7, 2017 Thanks for the responses. I knew the whole IM rating system was a bunch of bologna but I'd didn't know about the others. Quote
Hulkster Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 that being said, in regards to the St. Croix, there is a noticeable difference in crispness and sensitivity of their SCII (premiers, old mojos) vs SCIII (Avid and new Mojo). The SCIII blanks are well worth the extra investment. like night and day. 1 Quote
MDbassin Posted February 8, 2017 Author Posted February 8, 2017 On 2/7/2017 at 10:41 AM, dave said: Blast from the past... 2007? I think technology has advanced in the 10 years since this has been posted. Also to add I wasn't asking anything about IM graphite. Quote
dave Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 Blast from the past... This is the base of which all else is smoke and mirrors...(marketing) Quote
TxHawgs Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 I agree w everyone else, it's something u definitely can't go by as far as comparing rods. And even if the same graphite was used they would be different. The resin, how it's wrapped ect is huge. The type of guieds how many and where they are placed is also a big factor. And those things just mentioned is also why one manufacturers MH is not like anothers MH ect. I have no stores around me to hold rods and buying a brand I never owned before is a pay and pray deal. Quote
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