Dobyns fury question

[MDbassin]

I AM NOT BASHING DOBYNS I'm just asking why

 

Is it just me or does the whole fury line up just seem the like the same rod just in different lengths?

 

The whole line up is the same thing either M/H or Heavy fast action just 3" longer or shorter then another ( the M/H mod fast being the only exception)

 

Really tho what's the difference between the 703c and the 733c.... nothing just 3 inches and in my experiences anyway if the power and action of the rod stays the same and only the length changes you need more or less then 3 inches to tell a difference in performance.

 

Please somebody enlighten me on why these rods are so different from one another that we need to debate on whether to get the 703 or 733. 

 

Im NOT bashing Dobyns I just don't understand why (on paper) they essentially made the same rod in 5 different lengths and the sierra series is even less diverse.

 

Side note what's with them on one of there heavy rods suggesting a buzzbait. I know that lure suggestions on technique specific rods are just that suggestions but why the only rod you suggest a buzzbait why is it a Heavy fast action rod?

 

ONCE AGAIN I AM NOT BASHING ON DONYNS

[CTBassin860]

Dobyns defense team to the rescue in 3..2....1

[NYBasser]

The Fury series is very diverse and they offer plenty of different rods. They are not all the same. They offer anywhere from a 661 light spinning model to an 805 flip/punch model. Not sure why you are assuming that they are "all the same". In terms of 733 vs 703, some people just prefer longer rods or shorter rods for many different reasons such as storage, bank fishermen, etc. Just like loomis offers a 7'1" jwr rod and a 7'5" jwr rod in most of their lineups. If you claim that 3" doesn't make a difference, then certainly 4" can't be much either. 

 

They also recommend a heavy rod for buzzbaits because Dobyns rods fish lighter than their weight rating, just like how some abu garcia rods fish heavier. There is no standard in the fishing industry for what heavy/med-heavy/medium rods should be, so between every company there will be differences.

 

The fact that you had to say "I'm not bashing Dobyns" 3 separate times alone makes it seem like a Dobyns bash lol 

[MDbassin]

1 minute ago, NYBasser said:

The Fury series is very diverse and they offer plenty of different rods. They are not all the same. They offer anywhere from a 661 light spinning model to an 805 flip/punch model. Not sure why you are assuming that they are "all the same". In terms of 733 vs 703, some people just prefer longer rods or shorter rods for many different reasons such as storage, bank fishermen, etc. Just like loomis offers a 7'1" jwr rod and a 7'5" jwr rod in most of their lineups. If you claim that 3" doesn't make a difference, then certainly 4" can't be much either. 

 

They also recommend a heavy rod for buzzbaits because Dobyns rods fish lighter than their weight rating, just like how some abu garcia rods fish heavier. There is no standard in the fishing industry for what heavy/med-heavy/medium rods should be, so between every company there will be differences.

 

The fact that you had to say "I'm not bashing Dobyns" 3 separate times alone makes it seem like a Dobyns bash lol 

Well

1. I had to state it multiple times because from personal experience people don't read all the post before commenting on here... my favorite rods thread a while back comes to mind

2. I am not talking about there spinning models I am talking about there casting models

3. If you would take a look at there casting lineup and read my post you would see that yes every rod in the line up is either a heavy or M/H fast action rod even the handle lengths besides the long flipping and swimbaits rod there's only a 14"handle (13 1/2 on crankbait rod) 

[rippin-lips]

Their 4 power 'heavy' fishes like a true medium heavy. Their 3 power 'medium heavy' fished like a true medium. That's why the buzzbait is a suggested bait to throw. I've owned both a 703 and 733 champion. I can say that they fish different from each other. Just because specs suggest that they are the same doesn't mean they are. Megabass for example has rods that are 'the same' in power and action but vary by 3 inches and they are totally different rods. I have both of these and fish then side by side all the time. 

 

orochi xx diablo spec R

length 7'2

power F5

taper fast

lure 3/8-1oz

The taper works better for moving baits. 

 

orochi xx emtf

length 7'5

power F5

taper fast

lure 3/8-1oz

The taper works better for bottom contact. 

[MDbassin]

5 minutes ago, rippin-lips said:

Their 4 power 'heavy' fishes like a true medium heavy. Their 3 power 'medium heavy' fished like a true medium. That's why the buzzbait is a suggested bait to throw. I've owned both a 703 and 733 champion. I can say that they fish different from each other. Just because specs suggest that they are the same doesn't mean they are. Megabass for example has rods that are 'the same' in power and action but vary by 3 inches and they are totally different rods. I have both of these and fish then side by side all the time. 

 

orochi xx diablo spec R

length 7'2

power F5

taper fast

lure 3/8-1oz

The taper works better for moving baits. 

 

orochi xx emtf

length 7'5

power F5

taper fast

lure 3/8-1oz

The taper works better for bottom contact. 

Does the longer rod in the same power and action have more give? I could see that. I mean if you take 2 sticks one 12" long and another 6" long the 6" will feel stiffer even if they are the same diameter

[rippin-lips]

4 hours ago, MDbassin said:

Does the longer rod in the same power and action have more give? I could see that. I mean if you take 2 sticks one 12" long and another 6" long the 6" will feel stiffer even if they are the same diameter

Yes, with all else being equal it should have a softer tip but there are other things that can play a part like the blanks diameter. If the longer rod has a thicker blank than it won't be as forgiving as the shorter rod with a thinner blank. If my memory serves me right.

[fishnkamp]

I belong to another board that has quite a few members that use Dobyns rods, including Gary himself.  I  asked a question about their Fury 704C, Sierra SA 704C and 705C.  I was looking for the best choice in a rod for throwing spooks, and possibly throwing carolina rigs, chatterbaits and buzzbaits.  If was looking at the 734, a 733 and a 703 or 704, but they you can be confusing.  By the way I am restricted to a 7 foot rod by my rod locker, so that was my interest in the704C and the 705C 

 If you read their answers it becomes less confusing.  Basically they said my best choice was the 734C and here is what was said.  Here was the first response. 

"The added length of the 734 has many advantages...casting, working baits, controlling fish are the top 3. 
A 7' rod is not the best for long casts and deeper water work. Carolina rigs and footballs should be 7'4-8' rods. 
The 734 is very versatile. Everything except the C Rig is right in the prime zone for what you have mentioned. I have several of them for exactly what you are talking about. 
The 704 is good for targets that are closer that you typically throw those baits mentioned. Spinnerbaits come to mind, along with dock work.
The 734 and 704 work for Texas rigs and lighter bottom work in general. As mentioned, the 704 is good in closer quarters."

 

Another response was more targeted based on the restriction  

The first response "nailed the reasons a 734 is usually a better choice than the 704. Most of them are not important until you've experienced the longer rods. In your case where a 7 foot rod is the longest you can carry and probably regularly fish with... you don't know what your missing. Now that's not a bad thing, we all used to think a 7 foot rod was very long... so you'll be very happy with the 704c
The 704 will do everything your wanting very well. It will be an awesome spook rod, great chatterbait and Buzz bait rod. It will work as a c rig rod but wouldn't be my choice, since you have to stay under 7 feet the 705c would be my choice. I think the 705c will be great for all your bait choices here except the buzz bait and chatterbait.  I think you're combining one to many techniques on this one, a good reason to go ahead and get two"  

 

Based on their responses, and the fact that I know the Dobyns rods run a half step power lighter than other manufacturers, the rods explanation makes sense.  The longer rod (the 734 ) has a different amount of beef and tip taper and and can handle the longer line and heavier baits like the carolina rig,   To do the same thing in a 7 footer I need to step up to the 5 power rod. My choice will be a Sierra 704C and find another rod in my arsenal to handle the carolina rigs. I am trying to upgrade my rods and sell some lesser quality rods that I have been fishing for quite a while.  Certain rods are going to the Middle River Bass clubs flea market in March.  I hope this helps explain the difference and why they might look the same but they really are not.

[Robert Riley]

12 hours ago, MassBassin508 said:

Dobyns defense team to the rescue in 3..2....1

Don't worry, I got here as fast as I could.

But the best answers have been said already. There is a difference. 

[MDbassin]

You guys I jumped the gun and I apologize.

 

I was able to get out to a Dobyns dealer close to me I didn't even know was around and after getting the recommendations for what I'm looking for from Mr.Dobyns himself I went out and checked them out.

 

I must say I was completely wrong they feel great and each rod does feel a little different then the others. Think I found my new lineup of rods

[Flyin Brian]

Did anyone mention how nicely balanced each and every rod is in all his lines of rods??????

[DanielG]

Old topic but...

This summer I got their Champion 735C MH glass rod. I just don't want to use anything else now. It feels like a good rod while using it. But the surprise for me is that it feels like a great rod when a fish is on the end of it. I didn't know a glass would be like this. Love it.

Now.... to get that good feeling by getting more fish on it. Fall was pretty much a bust.

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