How to cast a light bait further?

[WRB]

With the rod/reel combo you have casting 40+ yards with a 1/2 oz jig should be easy.

You are the problem! 20 yards I'd only 60' and should be able to cast a 1/8 oz lure that far with your tackle.

Don't worry about backlashes, learn how to remove them without picking out loops.

1. Pull off about 50 yards of braid and tape over the balance of the lone on the spool with plumbers Teflon tape, then wind the balance back on the reel...do not cut the line!

2. Keep the reel adjusted like it is with 2 breaks.

3. Adjust the end cap tension so the lure drop and hits the ground with the spool stopping and not over spinning.

4. Cast and raise your thumb so it S doesn't touch the spool until the last 10 yards or so when you start to feel the line loosening, then very lightly touch the turning spool. Practice the timing until you can cast 40 yards with a 1/2 oz jig.

5. If you backlash, slowly pull out the loose line until it hits a loop, then stop. Put your thumb on the spooled line snugly and wind on all the line over the backlash. Now slowly pull off the line dropping it into the water until you are past all the loops. Wind the line back onto to the reel using some tension using your fingers. Backlash is gone.

Tom

PS, use 30 lb braid with a baitcaster!

[bma3]

1 hour ago, WRB said:

With the rod/reel combo you have casting 40+ yards with a 1/2 oz jig should be easy.

You are the problem! 20 yards I'd only 60' and should be able to cast a 1/8 oz lure that far with your tackle.

Don't worry about backlashes, learn how to remove them without picking out loops.

1. Pull off about 50 yards of braid and tape over the balance of the lone on the spool with plumbers Teflon tape, then wind the balance back on the reel...do not cut the line!

2. Keep the reel adjusted like it is with 2 breaks.

3. Adjust the end cap tension so the lure drop and hits the ground with the spool stopping and not over spinning.

4. Cast and raise your thumb so it S doesn't touch the spool until the last 10 yards or so when you start to feel the line loosening, then very lightly touch the turning spool. Practice the timing until you can cast 40 yards with a 1/2 oz jig.

5. If you backlash, slowly pull out the loose line until it hits a loop, then stop. Put your thumb on the spooled line snugly and wind on all the line over the backlash. Now slowly pull off the line dropping it into the water until you are past all the loops. Wind the line back onto to the reel using some tension using your fingers. Backlash is gone.

Tom

PS, use 30 lb braid with a baitcaster!

 

What is the reason for the first step? Should I respool completely?

[new2BC4bass]

5 hours ago, bma3 said:

What is the reason for the first step? Should I respool completely?

 

Do not respool.  I'm sure you have discovered a backlash (or even an over-run) can cause the line to be loose all the way down to the spool.  Tape keeps the line from loosening any further than where you put it on.  Makes a backlash about impossible to get.  There are still times I have to pull all the line off to get rid of loops.

 

I know people use 20# braid (and sometimes lighter) on a baitcast reel, but you risk the possibility of it digging in.  That stops a cast like "right now".  A side effect is the possibility of losing your lure.  I have snapped a new 1/2 oz. jig off using 30# braid on a spinning reel when the line wrapped around the tip and I failed to notice.  When I first looked into using braid a few years ago the consensus was 40# minimum.  That is what I put on my baitcast reel the first time I used braid.  Never had a problem with it.

[bma3]

On 2/2/2017 at 4:08 PM, bigfruits said:

^^

 

do you have the same problem casting these weights on spinning? 

 

is your MH/F actually an XF jig/worm rod?

 

you shouldnt have to turn all of your brakes off. try half on half off

 

are you using too much thumb because of overruns? - tighten tension

not using much thumb and cant cast far? - loosen tension

 

practice in the yard. dont waste your time on the water.

 

still having a lot of trouble casting any distance whatsoever, even with a jig. I have 2 breaks on and the tension is set the way you guys have told me. Couldn't cast more than 15 yards today. Any ideas?

[lmbfisherman]

Ok, maybe I missed something but what is the lure rating on your rod? and what is the weight of the lure you are using?  Your rod lure rating and power/action is the most important part of the equation in my experience. 

[bma3]

47 minutes ago, lmbfisherman said:

Ok, maybe I missed something but what is the lure rating on your rod? and what is the weight of the lure you are using?  Your rod lure rating and power/action is the most important part of the equation in my experience. 

 

My lure rating is 1/4oz to 3/4oz I believe. I am using mostly the same weights. I will occasionally throw something slightly lighter but it is rare.  

[lmbfisherman]

What is the rod brand?  I don't recall seeing it.  Anyway, in general you want to stay within that range but optimally the mid range is usually the sweet spot.  Trying to cast anything lighter with that setup is going to be bad, you will need a lighter powered rod. 

 

I'd recommend seeing you are new (going by what you're asking here) that you get a spinning rod combo for lighter lures (Medium Power).  Your current rod will not handle light lures.  Usually my MH rods I do not like to go close to minimum weight as they are usually too stiff to load the rod.  My suggestion if you want to do it on a baitcaster would be to get a lighter power rod that can handle lighter lures.  But usually that would be a costly venture as the reel would need be able to handle it too.

 

I'm also getting a sense that you want to just use one combo, which isn't a bad thing it just means you will be limited and will always have trouble going lighter period.  My advice is stick closer to the 3/8 oz to 1/2 oz lures for your lightest.

[bma3]

20 minutes ago, lmbfisherman said:

What is the rod brand?  I don't recall seeing it.  Anyway, in general you want to stay within that range but optimally the mid range is usually the sweet spot.  Trying to cast anything lighter with that setup is going to be bad, you will need a lighter powered rod. 

 

I'd recommend seeing you are new (going by what you're asking here) that you get a spinning rod combo for lighter lures (Medium Power).  Your current rod will not handle light lures.  Usually my MH rods I do not like to go close to minimum weight as they are usually too stiff to load the rod.  My suggestion if you want to do it on a baitcaster would be to get a lighter power rod that can handle lighter lures.  But usually that would be a costly venture as the reel would need be able to handle it too.

 

I'm also getting a sense that you want to just use one combo, which isn't a bad thing it just means you will be limited and will always have trouble going lighter period.  My advice is stick closer to the 3/8 oz to 1/2 oz lures for your lightest.

 

 

I have dobyns 703c med heavy. I'm thinking of buying a spinning combo to go with my current combo that way I have the ability to cast light lures as well as the jigs and senkos im already throwing. Good or Bad idea? I really enjoy the combo I have right now, but for heavy baits. 

[lmbfisherman]

Just now, bma3 said:

I have dobyns 703c med heavy. I'm thinking of buying a spinning combo to go with my current combo that way I have the ability to cast light lures as well as the jigs and senkos im already throwing. Good or Bad idea?

Good idea, that will solve your light bait issues. 

[bma3]

Just now, lmbfisherman said:

Good idea, that will solve your light bait issues. 

My current combo is good for senkos and jigs right? 

[lmbfisherman]

3 minutes ago, bma3 said:

My current combo is good for senkos and jigs right? 

I would use 3/8 oz to 1/2 oz jigs on your current rig.  As for a senko, if you are talking weightless or weighted?  If weightless I wouldn't go below a 5" senko.  If you are adding 1/8 oz or 1/4 oz weight than you can use a smaller senko.

[bma3]

8 minutes ago, lmbfisherman said:

I would use 3/8 oz to 1/2 oz jigs on your current rig.  As for a senko, if you are talking weightless or weighted?  If weightless I wouldn't go below a 5" senko.  If you are adding 1/8 oz or 1/4 oz weight than you can use a smaller senko.

 

I'm using mostly lightly weighted or unweighted 6-inch senkos. 

[lmbfisherman]

6 minutes ago, bma3 said:

I'm using mostly lightly weighted or unweighted 6-inch senkos. 

Yes 6" weightless definitely fine.  Good luck with finding a new Spinning Combo!

[bma3]

Just now, lmbfisherman said:

Yes 6" weightless definitely fine.  Good luck with finding a new Spinning Combo!

Thanks! Looking at maybe a stratic. Any suggestions for rod/reels?