How to cast a light bait further?

[bma3]

This is a big thing for me cause I fish a lot with lighter baits but can't seem to figure out how to cast them further. I also wanna know how to cast any bait further in general.

 

I am using a 7ft medium heavy fast action rod and a Shimano Curado 201HG reel (7:2:1)

 

 

[2tall79]

Switch to spinning and lighter line

[TheCastaMasta]

how do you feel about using a spinning reel? this will get your lightweight bait out to the distance you want. if not, try a longer rod to increase your distance. make sure during your cast that you are maximizing the usage of rod bend and "whip". also, having your tension knob and break set to the proper settings for the type of bait you are using are esssential. im sure someone here more knowledgeable than I can help you in that department! 

[hunterPRO1]

spinning rods cast light lures farther, easier.

 

lighter line does the same.

 

 

 

[RoLo]

"How To Cast A Light Bait Farther"

> Longer Rod

> Lighter Line 

> Lighter Rod Power  (ultralight spinning gear can handle 2-lb line)

> Slower Tip Action   (e.g. moderate fast)

> Cast Downwind     

 

Roger

[bma3]

20 minutes ago, TheCastaMasta said:

how do you feel about using a spinning reel? this will get your lightweight bait out to the distance you want. if not, try a longer rod to increase your distance. make sure during your cast that you are maximizing the usage of rod bend and "whip". also, having your tension knob and break set to the proper settings for the type of bait you are using are esssential. im sure someone here more knowledgeable than I can help you in that department! 

 

still trying to figure out the breaking system and tension knob. Have any tips?

[TheCastaMasta]

1 minute ago, bma3 said:

still trying to figure out the breaking system and tension knob. Have any tips?

 

a while back when I first got into baitcasters, someone at a convention told me to set the tension knob correctly you must:

 

1. have your bait tied on and about 1 ft from the end of your rod tip
2. tighten your tension knob all the way
3. loosen the tension knob slowly
4. when the bait begins to slowly descend, you have it set correctly

that is what i was told and that is what I have done! im sure other people have different methods / thoughts.

 

note: if you are looking for a longer cast, a little bit looser than the point found in step 4 might be needed.

 

 

for the braking....i always just turn mine off unless I am casting into the wind. someone else will have to give you a good answer on this. 

[gobig]

One word metanium

[frogflogger]

The simplest way is to let out more line - for long casts I will sometimes have the lure dangling 1/2 the rod length - which has the effect of a longer rod - and the force you can create will give you more distance - also clean and lightly oil your spool bearings regularly.

[12poundbass]

7 hours ago, TheCastaMasta said:

 

a while back when I first got into baitcasters, someone at a convention told me to set the tension knob correctly you must:

 

1. have your bait tied on and about 1 ft from the end of your rod tip
2. tighten your tension knob all the way
3. loosen the tension knob slowly
4. when the bait begins to slowly descend, you have it set correctly

that is what i was told and that is what I have done! im sure other people have different methods / thoughts.

 

note: if you are looking for a longer cast, a little bit looser than the point found in step 4 might be needed.

 

 

for the braking....i always just turn mine off unless I am casting into the wind. someone else will have to give you a good answer on this. 

The way I set mine up is similar to you. I read and it's worked for me...

losen the tension knob enough that the lure descends to the floor just enough that when it hits the floor the spool stops without letting out more line. I'd go with one of these two methods and adjust from there as you get more comfortable with how your lure casts. 

[scaleface]

I add sections of stick worms { senko type } to small spinnerbaits , jigs  , Roadrunners .. to get them to cast easier with bait casting gear .

[WRB]

12 hours ago, bma3 said:

This is a big thing for me cause I fish a lot with lighter baits but can't seem to figure out how to cast them further. I also wanna know how to cast any bait further in general.

 

I am using a 7ft medium heavy fast action rod and a Shimano Curado 201HG reel (7:2:1)

 

 

Any lure? There is a weight limit your baitcasting reel and MH F rod can perform ideally with. What are the lures you want to cast over 35 to 40 yards with? 

Tom

[F14A-B]

What is your definition of light weight baits? I can throw a 1/8 pretty far on that rig..3/8 a country mile. What are your brake settings on? What line are you using?

[bma3]

3 hours ago, Alonerankin2 said:

What is your definition of light weight baits? I can throw a 1/8 pretty far on that rig..3/8 a country mile. What are your brake settings on? What line are you using?

 

Right now I keep 2 brakes on but thinking of turning them both off. I'm using 20lb braid. 

[RoweBoatRVA]

4 hours ago, WRB said:

Any lure? There is a weight limit your baitcasting reel and MH F rod can perform ideally with. What are the lures you want to cast over 35 to 40 yards with? 

Tom

 

@WRB makes a good point. What lure are you trying to cast and what size? Some lures are much more aerodynamic than others.

[bma3]

Just now, RoweBoatRVA said:

 

@WRB makes a good point. What lure are you trying to cast and what size? Some lures are much more aerodynamic than others.

 

I'm mostly casting jigs, senkos, and crankbaits with the everything else occasionally.  

[RoweBoatRVA]

Crankbaits and jigs shouldnt be a problem casting far with the right line and settings. Senkos, especially weightless or wacky, are more difficult (but still not bad) with a baitcaster over a spinning setup.

 

How heavy are the lures you are throwing?

[bma3]

3 minutes ago, RoweBoatRVA said:

Crankbaits and jigs shouldnt be a problem casting far with the right line and settings. Senkos, especially weightless or wacky, are more difficult (but still not bad) with a baitcaster over a spinning setup.

 

How heavy are the lures you are throwing?

 

Jigs are 3/8oz to 3/4oz, maybe 1oz very rarely. You know the weight of senkos and all that. Idk about crankbaits though. 

[smr913]

You got other problems going on here. 

[TheCastaMasta]

1 hour ago, bma3 said:

Jigs are 3/8oz to 3/4oz, maybe 1oz very rarely. You know the weight of senkos and all that. Idk about crankbaits though. 

 

Yeah you should have 0 problem with casting these weights. Let's ask this question....what is your definition of a far cast?

[bigfruits]

1 hour ago, TheCastaMasta said:

 

what is your definition of a far cast?

^^

 

do you have the same problem casting these weights on spinning? 

 

is your MH/F actually an XF jig/worm rod?

 

you shouldnt have to turn all of your brakes off. try half on half off

 

are you using too much thumb because of overruns? - tighten tension

not using much thumb and cant cast far? - loosen tension

 

practice in the yard. dont waste your time on the water.

[new2BC4bass]

2 hours ago, TheCastaMasta said:

 

Yeah you should have 0 problem with casting these weights. Let's ask this question....what is your definition of a far cast?

 

Second this.  You've gotten good advice, but those weights shouldn't be a problem getting good distance with that combo unless you are one of those guys expecting 80-100 yard casts to be the norm.  Generally I figure 45 yards is a good cast for me with 35-40 yards being the norm.  The right lure/reel/rod can increase that distance.  I figure it is the rod and lure that play the biggest part.  I've made longer casts with several rod and reel combos.  One being a 7'2" MH-XF with a Chronarch 100B and 12# Siege.  The Endurance 723C is one XF casting rod that delivers long casts.

 

I run centrifugal brakes with 3 on.  It gives me more worry-free casting than 2 on.  My thumb probably never will be able to handle zero brakes.  Still.....I seldom complain about lack of distance, and I figure most of these guys can cast rings around me.  

[Wayne P.]

Since no one has mentioned it yet, use fluorocarbon line. It weights more and will give you more distance after you get your reel adjusted properly.

[bma3]

4 hours ago, TheCastaMasta said:

 

Yeah you should have 0 problem with casting these weights. Let's ask this question....what is your definition of a far cast?

 

I know I shouldn't be having a problem but I feel like I can't get them more than like 20 yards whereas I've seen other people cast them much further. 

1 hour ago, new2BC4bass said:

 

Second this.  You've gotten good advice, but those weights shouldn't be a problem getting good distance with that combo unless you are one of those guys expecting 80-100 yard casts to be the norm.  Generally I figure 45 yards is a good cast for me with 35-40 yards being the norm.  The right lure/reel/rod can increase that distance.  I figure it is the rod and lure that play the biggest part.  I've made longer casts with several rod and reel combos.  One being a 7'2" MH-XF with a Chronarch 100B and 12# Siege.  The Endurance 723C is one XF casting rod that delivers long casts.

 

I run centrifugal brakes with 3 on.  It gives me more worry-free casting than 2 on.  My thumb probably never will be able to handle zero brakes.  Still.....I seldom complain about lack of distance, and I figure most of these guys can cast rings around me.  

 

I personally think my problem is that I keep my thumb on the line when I cast a lot because of scared of birds nest. Braking and everything also come into play but I think I just found my answer.

[TheCastaMasta]

22 minutes ago, bma3 said:

I know I shouldn't be having a problem but I feel like I can't get them more than like 20 yards whereas I've seen other people cast them much further. 

I personally think my problem is that I keep my thumb on the line when I cast a lot because of scared of birds nest. Braking and everything also come into play but I think I just found my answer.

Practice and let us know how it goes!