Dypsis Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 I, like many, use the same rod for both baits. I was just curious if someone offered to build you a rod specifically for each what would they be - length, taper and power? Would they be the same, why and where would they differ? 2 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted February 1, 2017 Global Moderator Posted February 1, 2017 For me the rod is the same, but I use braid for swim jigs and copolymer for spinnerbaits. 1 Quote
FishOnLMB Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 For spinner baits, fast taper, medium power, 7'3, and 12-15lb fluro. For swimjigs, fast taper, medium heavy power, 7 foot, and 40-50lb braid. I just prefer a beefier setup for swimjigs because I am mostly throwing them into more cover than a spinner bait. Quote
Dypsis Posted February 2, 2017 Author Posted February 2, 2017 On 2/1/2017 at 6:42 AM, Bluebasser86 said: For me the rod is the same, but I use braid for swim jigs and copolymer for spinnerbaits. Why copoly for spinnerbaits? 20 hours ago, FishOnLMB said: For spinner baits, fast taper, medium power, 7'3, and 12-15lb fluro. For swimjigs, fast taper, medium heavy power, 7 foot, and 40-50lb braid. I just prefer a beefier setup for swimjigs because I am mostly throwing them into more cover than a spinner bait. I throw my spinnerbaits in a lot of grass so I need a MH, I also throw my swimjigs arounds grass so again MH. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted February 2, 2017 Global Moderator Posted February 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Dypsis said: Why copoly for spinnerbaits? I mainly fish them around cover, wood especially, so I use itfor the abrasion resistance. Plus it's easy to find and cheap. 2 Quote
Dypsis Posted February 2, 2017 Author Posted February 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said: I mainly fish them around cover, wood especially, so I use itfor the abrasion resistance. Plus it's easy to find and cheap. All good reasons, I fish alot of grass and pads so I go braid and it works very well for me. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted February 2, 2017 Super User Posted February 2, 2017 For the most part they would be the same rod, but it really depends on the weight of each lure, the trailer used and where it is fished. For example, a rod used to throw a 3/8 double-willow-leaf spinnerbait over a submerged weedbed, wouldn't be the same rod used to throw a 3/4 oz swim jig with a swimbait trailer into emergent cover. Roger 3 Quote
Lucky Craft Man Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 Spinnerbait Outfit Specs for me: -Fast/Extra Fast Action -Lure Rating 1/4 to 3/4oz. -6'6" to 6'9" in Length -14lb. Fluorocarbon -Reel with 26 IPT Swimjig Outfit Specs for me: -Extra Fast Action -Lure Rating 3/8 to 3/4oz. -7'0" to 7'5" in Length -30 lb. Braid -Reel with at least 30 IPT With that being said, any rod could essentially perform both functions adequately. I'm just giving you my fine tuned standards for each. 1 Quote
Dypsis Posted February 2, 2017 Author Posted February 2, 2017 The reason that kind of got me thinking was I have an awesome close quarters rod (6'6"), but was thinking of adding a 7' 2 or 7'4 rod to the mix - for bombing said baits over large grass flats. Quote
Lucky Craft Man Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 12 minutes ago, Dypsis said: The reason that kind of got me thinking was I have an awesome close quarters rod (6'6"), but was thinking of adding a 7' 2 or 7'4 rod to the mix - for bombing said baits over large grass flats. Well, why I like the extra rod length for swig jigs is because it allows to hop the bait up/over/through what ever I am fishing a little more efficiently. I like a shorter rod for spinnerbaits, because I feel it gives me a little more accuracy in casting tight to docks and along cover. 1 Quote
Super User RoLo Posted February 2, 2017 Super User Posted February 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, Dypsis said: The reason that kind of got me thinking was I have an awesome close quarters rod (6'6"), but was thinking of adding a 7' 2 or 7'4 rod to the mix - for bombing said baits over large grass flats. That'll work. And will also give you a longer stroke for hauling fish quickly out of cover. Roger 1 Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted February 2, 2017 Super User Posted February 2, 2017 I'm strange, I use two different rod for different reasons. For spinnerbaits I now use a 6'9" Heavy power Hammer rod, the heavy power is because Hammer rods all have a Mod-fast action so they fish as if a half power lighter. For swim jigs I use a 7'2" MH-XF casting rod, the main reason is because I'm typically throwing them into heavier cover and they have a stiffer weed guard and I don't use braid. So given that my line has some give, the stiffer rod really helps in my getting a solid hook set in cover especially with a heavy weed guard. 2 Quote
Dypsis Posted February 2, 2017 Author Posted February 2, 2017 Could buying a composite rod assist with using braid? As I fish a bunch of grass and feel it helps rip it free when needed. Quote
hunterPRO1 Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 i use the same rod for both (7' mh/f) because i cant afford specific setups but if i could id like a slightly stiffer rod for the jigs and slightly softer for the spinners. i use braid for both for the extra sensitivity. since the baits are moving i dont think theres any difference Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted February 2, 2017 Super User Posted February 2, 2017 I like a faster higher mod graphite for swimjigs than spinnerbaits. The power and line depend on how I'm fishing each. This is for NE and Mid Atlantic smallish lakes and Potomac. Quote
GORDO Posted February 3, 2017 Posted February 3, 2017 I have actually been using the same rod for both applications and have no reason to change it. I love the 7' MHF. Im only 5'9 on a good day and dont like rods much bigger than that. It just gets unwieldy for me. Ive never had a problem ripping a spinner or jig free from any sort of vegetation or avoiding the anchor line with a 7' rod and Im just as accurate as anyone out there with it too. I like the pline cxx (green moss co-poly) in 15lb for it. I throw into pads, a lot, and a lot of riprap, laydowns, rock points and you cant break that stuff if you tried. Ive had pike eat the entire spinner bait, have the line through their teeth and still land them with that stuff. The memory is crappy about that line but you can a 1/2 spinner or swim jig a mile and when the line is tight it doesnt matter at all. You asked and Im bored at work. God I wish the snow would go away. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted February 3, 2017 Posted February 3, 2017 Rolo summed it up. Bait weight and cover are the factors that separate the two. 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted February 3, 2017 Super User Posted February 3, 2017 When swim jigs first came out they were mostly an open water deal which included lighter heads (less that 1/2 oz), a thin brush guard and a lighter wire hook. With the recent Boom in specialty jigs - Swim jigs have been beefed up with heavier heads & brush guards and sturdier hooks that make them a good choice for presenting in heavier cover - much like a spinnerbait. When I'm fishing the lighter wire baits my gear reflects that. When I'm throwing a swimjig with a hook like a gaff - my gear is a little on the beefy side. YMMV A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted February 3, 2017 Super User Posted February 3, 2017 If I was having a rod built to cover both I would either build on a MHX MBR 843 or 844. They are perfect taper for these baits with the only difference being the power. I have the 843 and it is a great rod for these apps but if I was tossing a lot of 1/2 oz baits I wouls have the 844 1 Quote
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