Is the brain damage worth it?

[Fishing Rhino]

On 2/1/2017 at 8:13 AM, .ghoti. said:

Brain damage? Dont think it would make much difference to those two morons.

 

You make a good point.  They'd need to have a brain to damage it.

[slonezp]

I'm at a loss as to why someone would go out of their way to go and watch these clowns. I don't find it the least bit entertaining.

[Gundog]

17 minutes ago, slonezp said:

I'm at a loss as to why someone would go out of their way to go and watch these clowns. I don't find it the least bit entertaining.

Entertainment is only a small part of what those 2 videos have for us, the viewer. Its about commitment, suffering for your art, working towards a goal and achieving it and daring to look foolish for your efforts. How many among us can say we have done things others thought was stupid but gave us a purpose? 

[slonezp]

30 minutes ago, Gundog said:

Entertainment is only a small part of what those 2 videos have for us, the viewer. Its about commitment, suffering for your art, working towards a goal and achieving it and daring to look foolish for your efforts. How many among us can say we have done things others thought was stupid but gave us a purpose? 

You believe that?

[Gundog]

43 minutes ago, slonezp said:

You believe that?

Maybe? Doesn't matter if I believe it. What matters is those people believe that. That's why they do it. Its about the goal but also about the journey to get there. Its as much about the pain as it is about the glory. Ever go outside in cold weather to practice your casting? Ever endure heat, cold, rain, sleet, a bum knee, hemorrhoids, tennis elbow just to fish? Ever dream about that trophy bass? Ever catch it? We are all apart of the same crazy world these people live in but our glory is less public. Less immortalized to others. But we still do it. So who is crazy now? Better yet answer my original question, knowing everything I've said is true about each one of us the question is.....Is the brain damage worth it?

[slonezp]

1 hour ago, Gundog said:

Maybe? Doesn't matter if I believe it. What matters is those people believe that. That's why they do it. Its about the goal but also about the journey to get there. Its as much about the pain as it is about the glory. Ever go outside in cold weather to practice your casting? Ever endure heat, cold, rain, sleet, a bum knee, hemorrhoids, tennis elbow just to fish? Ever dream about that trophy bass? Ever catch it? We are all apart of the same crazy world these people live in but our glory is less public. Less immortalized to others. But we still do it. So who is crazy now? Better yet answer my original question, knowing everything I've said is true about each one of us the question is.....Is the brain damage worth it?

The difference being I am not on a tv show exploiting myself, for the approval of others, to be passionate about my sport or hobby. I have foul weather gear to help protect me from the elements  and have learned to accept a little swampass now and then to further the sport.

Obviously there is some sort of motivation behind what they are doing  just as there is motivation behind guys with fishing youtube channels....something else I don't understand. Maybe it's a generational thing. I recently went on a job interview (pending the result of my background and drug test, I start on the 20th) and I was asked what motivates me. Money, was my answer. The rest is just smoke and mirrors. Now, maybe for some it's fame, maybe it's power. These are concepts I don't understand BUT both are byproducts of having money. Go figure. So. if the guy is getting paid to smash a bunch of toilet seats over his head, good for him. I'd much rather get paid for using my head in a less painful way.

[Fishing Rhino]

14 hours ago, Gundog said:

Entertainment is only a small part of what those 2 videos have for us, the viewer. Its about commitment, suffering for your art, working towards a goal and achieving it and daring to look foolish for your efforts. How many among us can say we have done things others thought was stupid but gave us a purpose? 

 

The answer to your question is that many of us have done foolish things.  But we grew up.

 

 "When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. ... "

 

My father used to tell me that I was like the guy that kept hitting himself over the head with a hammer because it felt so good when he stopped.

[Gundog]

11 hours ago, slonezp said:

The difference being I am not on a tv show exploiting myself, for the approval of others, to be passionate about my sport or hobby. I have foul weather gear to help protect me from the elements  and have learned to accept a little swampass now and then to further the sport.

Obviously there is some sort of motivation behind what they are doing  just as there is motivation behind guys with fishing youtube channels....something else I don't understand. Maybe it's a generational thing. I recently went on a job interview (pending the result of my background and drug test, I start on the 20th) and I was asked what motivates me. Money, was my answer. The rest is just smoke and mirrors. Now, maybe for some it's fame, maybe it's power. These are concepts I don't understand BUT both are byproducts of having money. Go figure. So. if the guy is getting paid to smash a bunch of toilet seats over his head, good for him. I'd much rather get paid for using my head in a less painful way.

I refuse to dismiss these 2 gentlemen as kooks or loonies (Canadian version of a kook). These are people who care about what they do. To them its an art form. Who are we to cast dispersions on people who's only crime (as far as we and the law know) is wanting everyone to notice their hard work and dedication to a craft. Also we judge these people based on our own biases. We don't know these people personally. The man who breaks toilet seats with his head may have other reasons for doing what he does. Maybe when his mother was pregnant with him she was scared by the sound of a toilet lid hitting a seat. Maybe when he was a young child he was drinking out of the toilet when the lid came down and hit him in the back of the head, knocking him unconscious. He was only saved from drowning by his faithful companion, a labrador retriever named Kevin. We don't know. We may never know. Instead of judging, let us embrace these 2 as compatriots and not simple fools. For there is a little head-kicking, toilet lid smasher in all of us.

[slonezp]

16 minutes ago, Gundog said:

I refuse to dismiss these 2 gentlemen as kooks or loonies (Canadian version of a kook). These are people who care about what they do. To them its an art form. Who are we to cast dispersions on people who's only crime (as far as we and the law know) is wanting everyone to notice their hard work and dedication to a craft. Also we judge these people based on our own biases. We don't know these people personally. The man who breaks toilet seats with his head may have other reasons for doing what he does. Maybe when his mother was pregnant with him she was scared by the sound of a toilet lid hitting a seat. Maybe when he was a young child he was drinking out of the toilet when the lid came down and hit him in the back of the head, knocking him unconscious. He was only saved from drowning by his faithful companion, a labrador retriever named Kevin. We don't know. We may never know. Instead of judging, let us embrace these 2 as compatriots and not simple fools. For there is a little head-kicking, toilet lid smasher in all of us.

Basically you're saying we should be grateful neither one of them grew up to be a serial killer

[Gundog]

20 minutes ago, slonezp said:

Basically you're saying we should be grateful neither one of them grew up to be a serial killer

I think that is basically what most of my posts are about but the overlying theme of my posts on this topic have been more of inclusion and acceptance for the strangeness in us all and how our experiences form who and what we are. Also there are subtexts of struggle and overcoming adversities, something about hemorrhoids, existentialism, the inevitable rise of machines to the detriment of human-kind, and who can forget a dog named Kevin. 

[slonezp]

11 minutes ago, Gundog said:

I think that is basically what most of my posts are about but the overlying theme of my posts on this topic have been more of inclusion and acceptance for the strangeness in us all and how our experiences form who and what we are. Also there are subtexts of struggle and overcoming adversities, something about hemorrhoids, existentialism, the inevitable rise of machines to the detriment of human-kind, and who can forget a dog named Kevin. 

Or we can have no opinion at all, but for some reason that bothers those that desire acceptance. Why must we have an opinion on something just because it is presented to us? For me to form an opinion requires me to care. Frankly, I really don't care much about others just as they don't care about me.

[Gundog]

36 minutes ago, slonezp said:

Or we can have no opinion at all, but for some reason that bothers those that desire acceptance. Why must we have an opinion on something just because it is presented to us? For me to form an opinion requires me to care. Frankly, I really don't care much about others just as they don't care about me.

No opinion is an option in this free society.  As Socrates once said "Jello is good but not a replacement for a comb". And I think we can all relate to that sentiment. 

[Wind Knot]

When did this joke turn into a deep philosophical discussion?  What does Socrates have to do with breaking things over your head?

[Gundog]

10 hours ago, Wind Knot said:

When did this joke turn into a deep philosophical discussion?  What does Socrates have to do with breaking things over your head?

I'm glad you asked. Socrates was a man known for philosophy but also for dramatic gestures. He once stood outside of the Acropolis claiming he could "Wrassle any leper to the ground in under XV minutes." This, of course, was the beginning of the art of modern tragedy in the theatre, even though it happened outside. Socrates was a tough guy and that part has been lost to history. But beyond this, Socrates knew that a society is only strong when it recognizes the work of others as a contribution to the whole. I believe it was Herbert Buckingham Khaury who once said "You wouldn’t have won if we’d beaten you.". 

[Last_Cast]

Why..lol

[Gundog]

Again a man following his passion. 

[slonezp]

6 hours ago, Gundog said:

Again a man following his passion. 

 

This works much better

 

[Gundog]

1 hour ago, slonezp said:

 

This works much better

 

But can you have a meaningful conversation with that? 

[slonezp]

8 hours ago, Gundog said:

But can you have a meaningful conversation with that? 

I don't speak Italian so I wouldn't be able to have a meaningful conversation with hammerhead

[Gundog]

58 minutes ago, slonezp said:

I don't speak Italian so I wouldn't be able to have a meaningful conversation with hammerhead

Actually from the accent John Ferraro is probably from New Jersey. Just a guess. Even so he seems like a normal guy who has a special talent and wants us to know about it.