Mike son Posted January 27, 2017 Posted January 27, 2017 I see Tackle Warehouse lists the weight of the Zoom horny toad as 1/8oz. I imagine unless you are using a 1/4oz weighted swimbait hook, you can't cast these on MH or Heavy casting gear. I'm curious to know your guys set ups for this technique (lure brand, hook type - weighted? Single screwlock hook or frog hook with 2 points?) as it's something I'd like to get into this summer. I use a MH-F rod with 40lb braid for my hollow body frogs and would like to use this set up for the soft body frogs as well. http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Zoom_Horny_Toad_5pk/descpage-ZF.html Quote
S. Sass Posted January 27, 2017 Posted January 27, 2017 Just slip 3 or so of these in where the hooks come out and adjust to suit adding more or less. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted January 28, 2017 Global Moderator Posted January 28, 2017 I fish them on a 7' MH/F casting rod with 50lb braid and have no issues with casting them plenty far. I'm going to guess that's an approximate weight on them, because they're a pretty dense bait. Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted January 28, 2017 Global Moderator Posted January 28, 2017 5 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said: I fish them on a 7' MH/F casting rod with 50lb braid and have no issues with casting them plenty far. I'm going to guess that's an approximate weight on them, because they're a pretty dense bait. Ditto Mike Quote
RB 77 Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 You should be just fine. I've had no problem casting them with a MF/ F setup with the weightless screw lock hook that was specifically designed or them. Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted January 28, 2017 Super User Posted January 28, 2017 Not sure where the 1/8 oz weight is coming from but I would venture to guess they are closer to 3/8 oz IMO. I can cast them weightless on a 5/0 hook as far as I can cast any other weightless plastic like a senko or a fluke. 1 Quote
Super User RoLo Posted January 28, 2017 Super User Posted January 28, 2017 Without a hook, a Horny Toad weighs approximately 1/2 oz. Roger 1 Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted January 29, 2017 Super User Posted January 29, 2017 19 hours ago, RB 77 said: You should be just fine. I've had no problem casting them with a MF/ F setup with the weightless screw lock hook that was specifically designed or them. What hook would that be? I want to give them a try this season. Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted January 29, 2017 Super User Posted January 29, 2017 I just weighed a Horny Toad and a Stanley Ribbet. I would have guessed the HT was heavier because I can more easily cast it, but they're both 3/8 oz on my wife's small food scale. I have a MH spinning combo with 20 lb braid that I'll use with lighter baits like the Snag Proof Original Frog. Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 29, 2017 Super User Posted January 29, 2017 When you weight lightvweight objects try weighing 10 and divide the total weight by 10. Most home scales are not accurate enough unless they weigh in 10ths of grams. 28.35 grams = 1 oz, divide the total wright in grams by 28.35 to = onces. Don't have any soft plastic Horny Toads to weigh, so can't add to this thread. Tom Quote
Super User RoLo Posted January 29, 2017 Super User Posted January 29, 2017 14 minutes ago, WRB said: When you weight lightvweight objects try weighing 10 and divide the total weight by 10. Most home scales are not accurate enough unless they weigh in 10ths of grams. 28.35 grams = 1 oz, divide the total wright in grams by 28.35 to = onces. Don't have any soft plastic Horny Toads to weigh, so can't add to this thread. Tom On the other hand, a high percentage of anglers are also hunters who own a powder scale for reloading. Powder scales are graduated in "grains" which is 1/437 OZ (subsequently rounded to the nearest 1/16 oz) This comes in real handy when comparing the weight of hooks, where there wouldn't be any rounding off. Roger Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 29, 2017 Super User Posted January 29, 2017 22 minutes ago, RoLo said: On the other hand, a high percentage of anglers are also hunters who own a powder scale for reloading. Powder scales are graduated in "grains" which is 1/437 OZ (subsequently rounded to the nearest 1/16 oz) This comes in real handy when comparing the weight of hooks, where there wouldn't be any rounding off. Roger So what is the mean average weight of the Horny Toad in grains? Tom Quote
RB 77 Posted January 29, 2017 Posted January 29, 2017 6 hours ago, Bunnielab said: What hook would that be? I want to give them a try this season. These... 1 Quote
Super User RoLo Posted January 29, 2017 Super User Posted January 29, 2017 1 hour ago, WRB said: So what is the mean average weight of the Horny Toad in grains? Tom SOLID TOADS Strike King Rage Toad: 350 gr. Zoom Horny Toad: 340 gr. Yum Buzz Frog: 325 gr. Gambler Cane Toad: 320 gr. Stanley Ribbit: 300 gr. Sizmic Pop’N Toad: 265 gr. (discontinued) Sizmic Toad: 265 gr. Mean Toad Weight = 309 grains (11/16 oz) Roger 2 Quote
RB 77 Posted January 29, 2017 Posted January 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, RoLo said: SOLID TOADS SK Rage-Tail Frog: 350 gr. Zoom Horny Toad: 340 gr. Yum Buzz Frog: 325 gr. Gambler Cane Toad: 320 gr. Stanley Ribbit: 300 gr. Sizmic Pop’N Toad: 265 gr. (discontinued) Sizmic Toad: 265 gr. Mean Toad Weight = 309 grains (11/16 oz) Roger I don't know why but I love this. "Mean Toad Weight" just sounds so epic to me. Could be right off an Herpetology message board or a "Battletoads" meme. Nope, good old bass resource. Haha. Now we need the data for the "mean, median and mode" of all the toad! 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 29, 2017 Super User Posted January 29, 2017 Add 1/16 oz for the 3/0 hook and the mean toad weighs in at 3/4 oz, no wonder they cast easily with a MH rod! Tom PS, Roger thank you for adding the toad weights. Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted January 30, 2017 Super User Posted January 30, 2017 I have a little scale that will weight in grams or decimal ounces and really was surprised when I started weighing lures and plastics. I keep meaning to make a thread as a place to collect them as a resource for people. I know I have lots of lures that I bought only to discover they were too heavy/too light to use the way I wanted them too. One of these days I will be motivated and bored enough to do it. Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted January 30, 2017 Super User Posted January 30, 2017 Zoom horny toad = 14 grams (1/2 oz.) ( 216 grains ) SK Rage Toad = 15 grams ( 231.4 grains ) Keitech Crazy Flapper = 16 1/2 grams (254.6 grains) Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 30, 2017 Super User Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Big Bait Fishing said: Zoom horny toad = 14 grams (1/2 oz.) ( 216 grains ) SK Rage Toad = 15 grams ( 231.4 grains ) Keitech Crazy Flapper = 16 1/2 grams (254.6 grains) 340 grains vs 216 grains....someone's scale needs to be calibrated! Tom Quote
Super User Big Bait Fishing Posted January 30, 2017 Super User Posted January 30, 2017 18 minutes ago, WRB said: 340 grains vs 216 grains....someone's scale needs to be calibrated! Tom yup , not a chance that a Zoom horny toad weighs 3/4 oz. (22 grams/340 grains) Quote
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