Lead Banned by 2022

[MassYak85]

Does this include ANY lures that contain lead. And also how do they define that, pretty much every lure I have ever bought says "may contain lead, a chemical known to the state of California to...". Even ones that I know for a fact do not have lead in them. The MA 1oz law is rarely enforced but they do draw a line and most lures are not part of the ban. A blanket ban though. What are they going to do, saw your crankbait in half to check whether the rattles are lead? "Oh sorry, guess they weren't, hoping you weren't expecting to be reimbursed for that".  This law seems unenforceable.

[grampa1114]

Calm down people...finish what you've got and buy the good stuff when it's time....It's just not that much more expensive. In Massachusetts they never did bother to check anybody's tackle box for compliance. There just aren't enough folks in most states DNR's to waste their time on stuff like that. 2022 is a long way off and let's hope there's still fishable water. 

[fishwizzard]

Outing myself as a nerd here, but wargaming minitures used to be made of lead but that was more or less phased out in the late 90's for the most part.  I am not sure what exactly the industry swtiched to, but it was called "white metal" and felt a little lighter then lead, but worked in lead molds.  

[IndianaFinesse]

3 hours ago, Choporoz said:

Playing the odds that any future bans will be on 'sale' of lead fishing weights; vice 'use' of lead fishing weights?

No, but I'm betting they aren't going to conduct house raids or tackle box checks to see if I posses any lead.  

[blckshirt98]

I'll switch to steel/brass but this is a perfect opportunity for a company or entrepreneur to build a better mousetrap.  Get a patent on an alloy or process and you'll be set!

[jr231]

They can take my lead when they come for my guns 

[Angry John]

I lived in ct and dealt with a lot of surrounding states with lead bans.  They get complicated buit the size requirement was almost always safe for jigs.  The dam bird will not eat the jig so the application of the law is everything.

[georgeyew]

4 hours ago, fishballer06 said:

What am I supposed to do with the 200+ pounds of Rat-L-Traps I have... 

 

Dang, what does 200+ lbs look like?

4 hours ago, MassYak85 said:

Does this include ANY lures that contain lead. And also how do they define that, pretty much every lure I have ever bought says "may contain lead, a chemical known to the state of California to...". Even ones that I know for a fact do not have lead in them. The MA 1oz law is rarely enforced but they do draw a line and most lures are not part of the ban. A blanket ban though. What are they going to do, saw your crankbait in half to check whether the rattles are lead? "Oh sorry, guess they weren't, hoping you weren't expecting to be reimbursed for that".  This law seems unenforceable.

 

Even my fishing rods/reels comes with a warning that it may contain lead.

[Jeff H]

I've no problem throwing brass bullets, been doing it for years but where lead is concerned...I guess I'll just be an outlaw of sorts.

[mixel]

So brass it will be then. Any maps of which lakes are federal vs. state?

[A-Jay]

14 minutes ago, mixel said:

So brass it will be then. Any maps of which lakes are federal vs. state?

 

Federal waters border two or more states or countries. 

 

State only waters lie completely with the boundaries of one single state.

 

A-Jay

[iceintheveins]

3 hours ago, Jeff H said:

I've no problem throwing brass bullets, been doing it for years but where lead is concerned...I guess I'll just be an outlaw of sorts.

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[Montanaro]

This applies to the sale of new lead.

 

You wont find it in stores. 

 

They wont force you to throw out your lures you already have.  Im just thinking that store shelves are gonna be pretty bare in future

["hamma"]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but, the Massachusetts law states any "weight" under 1 oz, or any "jig" under a certain length,... spinnerbaits, crankbaits, or anything that a loon cant accidentally swallow isnt a issue. Now this covers "freshwaters" and doesnt effect salt water anglers

 The states environmental police do have a way to check,..I have not been, but I spoke to some shore trout anglers that told me they were checked. The State stocks trout so these lakes where stocking takes place gets more attention then "unstocked" or bass waters. I have seen one environmental police vehicle at bass waters in the past several years, at a bass lakes ramp. And I beleive it was for a complaint from a homeowner, as they didnt bother me at all, didnt even get out of the truck, So I think they were looking for someone specific.

 As far as a countrywide ban on lead? All I do know is that there is a way to check compliance, and I for one want to not only do whats deemed legal, but have begun searching and will soon be gathering the means to pour my own jigs and weights.

 Tungsten is out of the question for a do it yourselfer,...Bismuth/tin is a good alternative but tricky to powder coat as powdercoating, suggests 350 degrees at least for 15 minutes to "cure" and most bismuth/tins melt at 290, so if you dont want to paint your jigs/weights, this may work for you. Im looking at pewter, and a certain bismuth /tin suggested by Will Wetline. These may be the future of weights and jigs, as they are less expensive than tungsten, and much easier to work with. They both can be powdercoated, the bismuth/ tin may need "special" attention to do so, but  possible the same. Brass and steel? I havent even considered yet, but, Im sure some experienced pourers would have already gone that route if they were viable.

 Will the ban effect you? I dont know,... But I do know that I have been searching for quality "specialized" or "technique specific" jigs and weights at a feasable price, and have found none as of yet. So, I've come to the crossroads, of making my own.

  You can find a few decent round ball jigs, football jigs, and "some" weights., in a bismuth/tin,..and oh yeah tungsten too, but they are not cheap..but if you fish any darter, stand-up, wobble heads, shad heads, etc.,... or specialized weights?,... your high and dry like me.

 I cant fathom the amount of money, and time I have wasted on lead weights, jigheads, and bass jigs that at the time were fine, but now deemed illegal here,..I did send alot out to friends throughout the country that dont have lead bans. But as any true "old timer" bass angler, I keep finding more and more in my overstocked stuff.

 I am almost ready to pull the trigger on my own pouring operation, and have not only sought out, and acquired the  saftey requirements, but am now waiting on the New England weather to break as this will take place in my, large hand built shed, which doesnt have any heat,...lol. 

  This is a push comes to shove type deal for me. The techniques and tricks I've acquired over the years calls for many different means of jigs, and weights.  I'd say 1/8th of them I can buy on the cheaper tin/bismuth mix,...the rest either isnt available, or are very, very expensive. So I have been relegated to abandon some of my techniques, until I can again facilitate the materials needed to do so.

 

  As a diligent, stubborn, and resouceful cuss! I am not allowing the treehuggers to ruin my day anymore. Im going to make the stuff I need,... in the law abiding materials.

 (as I raspberry p.e.t.a.) even they can,...."have a nice day",...lol

 believe it? or not? ,... they did have a hand in this. Hopefully I will be forced to thank them in the near future, as this may be the beginning of "Hammafish Lure Co." if all goes well.

 

[jr231]

@"hamma" get yourself a kerosene heater. I've cut tile during snowfall with a make shift tent (from tarps ) and a kerosene heater. And I was sweating... It was a wet saw so I was constantly running my hands through running water too. Itd warm up a small garage to the point you need to leave in a matter of minutes. 

 

I'm not too worried about this.. I'll worry about it in 2022 ? 

[12poundbass]

I'm not worried about it.

? lol