Scorchx1245 Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 I've tried tying braid to flouro leaders and the knot keeps failing, the flouro keeps snapping in the knot. I'm using spiderwire 12 lbs ez flouro, the line spooled up on baitcaster is great but I can't get the knot to work.....knots to lures is great, but not on leaders any suggestions ? 30 lbs braid to 12 to 16lbs flouro. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted January 25, 2017 Super User Posted January 25, 2017 Uni-knot to Uni-knot (simple, secure, no saliva necessary) Roger 3 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted January 25, 2017 Global Moderator Posted January 25, 2017 I've been using an Alberto knot and having good luck. Are you wetting the knot and line very well and pulling it tight slowly? Fluorocarbon will heat up and get damaged very easily. 2 Quote
Turkey sandwich Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 I have few problems with the Uni to Uni. Ultimately, I don't pay a lot of credence to which knot someone ties, but rather making sure it's tied well. Guys can post their preferences for at least half a dozen line to leader connection knots from the Uni to Uni, Alberto, blood knot, surgeons' knot, FG, Albright, nail knots, loop to loop connections, and a hole world of complicated ****. On spinning and casting gear, the Uni to Uni, Albright, blood knot, FG, and Albright all work great. What's more important is just learning to tie them well and replacing leaders before knot problems happen. I use the Uni to Uni on my spinning and casting gear because I can tie it pretty quickly on the water and replace my leaders generally before/after every trip the rod is being used. Even with microguides, i have very, very few leader to line problems. Quote
Super User NHBull Posted January 25, 2017 Super User Posted January 25, 2017 When the knot fails, which line in is breaking? My fishing buddy wets his line before he ties and as he is synching it up. The only knot that has failed me was user error. 1 Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted January 25, 2017 Super User Posted January 25, 2017 I use the alberto knot and quite often tie 30lb braid to 12lb fluoro. Power Pro to Seaguar Red label if it matters. A little spit on the knot, and it never breaks. 2 Quote
Super User Crestliner2008 Posted January 25, 2017 Super User Posted January 25, 2017 I always take my time tying leaders to braid. And I use the Alberto knot exclusively. Wet the knot and slowly cinch it up, stopping several times before the final cinch. This insures less heat build up which can lead to damaged line and knot failures. 1 Quote
Super User Darren. Posted January 25, 2017 Super User Posted January 25, 2017 What the others said. Cinching down fluoro generates heat in the line and weakens it. You *must* use saliva on it and slowly cinch it even then. As for knots, Albright variants (Alberto) are great as is the tried and true Uni-to-uni. I used to tie the former all the time, but have gone back to the uni-to-uni for the most part. Just because... I tie 10, 15 and 20# braid to leaders from 4# to 15# and do not break at the knot unless I did something wrong. 1 Quote
kbeeb374 Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 I started with a uni to uni knot and it works great as long as you get the flouro nice and wet and cinch it slowly. I would also recommend not quite tightening the flouro side all the way down before you pull both sides together if that makes sense. Get both sides just tight enough to start gripping the other line then slowly pull them together. I haven't tied a uni-uni knot in a while though as I learned how to tie the FG knot. when tied right that knot cannot be beat. Here is the video I used to learn it, it is the easiest way to tie it correctly: Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted January 25, 2017 Super User Posted January 25, 2017 14 hours ago, Scorchx1245 said: I've tried tying braid to flouro leaders and the knot keeps failing, the flouro keeps snapping in the knot. I'm using spiderwire 12 lbs ez flouro, the line spooled up on baitcaster is great but I can't get the knot to work.....knots to lures is great, but not on leaders any suggestions ? 30 lbs braid to 12 to 16lbs flouro. Uni to Uni Knot for me. Been using it for a long time in many different applications in both Fresh & Salt water without a problem. This includes large game fish that 'Fight & Run' and test tackle a whole lot more than a bass ever. As long as the quality of the main line & leader is good and the knot is moistened & tied correctly, you are totally good to go. btw - I use mono as leader material the vast majority of the time - I've found it to have excellent knot strength across the board. If & when I feel I "need" to use fluorocarbon line - I use a full spool of it instead of the braid & leader deal. YMMV A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted January 25, 2017 Super User Posted January 25, 2017 Which knot have you been using that was failing you? I'd personally recommend the alberto. Good mix of strength, thin profile, and ease of tying. Quote
FishOnLMB Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 The FG knot is the only knot I use for braid to fluro. It takes sometime to master, but it is worth it. It is the thinnest knot there is, and will go threw micro guides. 3 Quote
Arobb2012 Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 I use an fg knot for my braid to leader knot. Salt life has a good video on how to tie it. Quote
BrianSnat Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 I use the Albright knot for braid to floro connections. As others said, always wet the knot before cinching it down. Quote
RB 77 Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 My go-to knot for braid to flouro or mono is a modified albright knot. Uni to uni for mono to flouro. If the line is breaking before the knot, its most likely the quality of the line, not so much the knot itself... Quote
d-camarena Posted January 27, 2017 Posted January 27, 2017 Read carefully guys, im 99% sure the problem here is the line. Dont trust anything from spyderwire that says ez on the box. I learned from using the ez braid 1 Quote
BrackishBassin Posted January 27, 2017 Posted January 27, 2017 All I use is the FG. Works like a charm. Use it to throw 1oz lures for saltwater and haven't had any issues. Quote
Scorchx1245 Posted January 28, 2017 Author Posted January 28, 2017 Hmm I love spiderweb camo braid and stealth braid, I use there ez flouro straight spooled on 2 of my reels works great, but the modified Albright keeps fsiling, I'm going to try the uni to uni and the fg, and if that don't work I'm going to try some p-line instead of ez flouro. 1 Quote
Scorchx1245 Posted January 30, 2017 Author Posted January 30, 2017 So I tinkered with the fg....way to complex...I fish a lot of drop shot rigs and the flour always gets tore up, so I want a quicker knot, went the uni to uni. Worked great. The modified Albright was one that kept snapping in the knot where the braid would cinch around the flouro. And yes plenty of lube aka saliva to wet the line lol. Gonna try the modified Albright with p line and see if the spiderweb flouro is the culprit. Quote
reason162 Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 Uni to uni tests horribly for any line class, both braid and mono/floro. It's a knot that cuts into itself and has terrible shock absorption. If your knot is getting reeled into the guides...FG is the way to go. Tied correctly, the braid "traps" the leader material in a series of weaves, by far a superior braid-to-leader connection and is the thinnest profile knot to boot. Quote
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