Witch st croix for frogs

[Bama bassin]

Hi guys I'm new to this forum and just recently got back into bass fishing and am starting to build up my rod aresenal and would like to start fishing frogs this summer I just got my first st croix bass x and have fell in love with it and I would like to switch to all st croix I've heard the mojo slop and frog was too stiff and didn't load up well during casting but st croix recently gave the mojo a refresh and was wondering if the new version was any better if not what st croix would be best for frogging thanks in advance!

[Yudo1]

I wasn't a fan of the previous generation mojo, but I hear the new mojo is much better.  The new mojo blank is much better because they use sc3 graphite which is the same as the avid.

[Poolshark]

The new mojo bass 7'4 heavy fast action rod is a good frog rod. I've been using mine for the last couple of weeks and have no problem casting with it. It is a true heavy powered rod, with a softer tip than the previous version. It feels similar to my 76 mhf veritas in feel. 

The new mojo also makes a great pitching rod. I have been using it to fish big EZs, horny toads and pitching weighted plastics in heavy cover and have no problems 

If you are casting the smallest frogs <1/4 ounce in moderate cover the plain old 71 mhf version works nice as well. 

 

[ww2farmer]

I can't speak to the new SC3 Mojo's as I don't have one yet. But I was not a fan of the 7'H "Slop and Frog" from the previous SC2 rods........at least for my style of frogging. If you were bomb casting hollow bodies over mats all day, it's probably a good rod, but it was miserable to walk a frog with, and was too stiff butt to tip to be any use to me trying to cast accurately in tight spots, like under boat docks, over hangs etc...When my rod arsenal was all St Croix, I used a 7' MH Avid for frogging and thought it to be a very good frog rod.

[Poolshark]

The slop and frog rod is certainly designed to fish super heavy cover. If I'm casting it and working a frog on a weed line or a boat dock I'd rather be using the 7 ft mhf 

[Further North]

I guess one question I would ask is: Why switch to all St. Croix (or any other brand of rods)?

 

Get what you like and can afford for whatever you're doing, don't make the mistake of thinking that any one manufacturer is the best at everything.

 

That'd apply to rods, reels, line, boats, motors, electronics...you name it.

[d-camarena]

All my rods are the same company now. Just helps me cover all bases better. I used to have different company rods but some Mh rods were lighter in power than some medium rods etc.

[Loomis13]

For a frog rod you dont need anything sensitive so I would look at the Bass X, however if you are looking for multi-purpose then I would go with the new mojo. My mojo is being ordered

[fishnkamp]

Before you jump into "all rods must be from one company"  take a good look at some of the better offering from different companies. If you want a great rod for frogs look at these rods:

All of the following companies have designed individual rods for specific techniques. 

Irod Genesis II IRG 754 Fred's Magic Stick.

Dobyns 735C in either the Fury series, Sierra or Champion XP series

Falcon sells two good frog rods in the Cara series including the Bobby's perfect frog rod

Powell rods has a Max3D 736 CEF Mag Heavy Frog rod

Seriously if you want only one rod builders rods than I would probably pick Powell, Irod or Dobyns, however there are tons of good rods available from Falcon.

ST Croix would be the last company I would choose to fill all of my rod needs.

[Poolshark]

25 minutes ago, fishnkamp said:

 

ST Croix would be the last company I would choose to fill all of my rod needs.

 

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with this, and I know there a ton of fantastic rods out there to choose from. My question is this...  what specifically about st Croix makes them the last place for one to look to fill all their rod needs? 

 

[Loomis13]

43 minutes ago, fishnkamp said:

ST Croix would be the last company I would choose to fill all of my rod needs.

 

I would like to know also. Just curious, do not have any "harsh feelings" for this comment...

[Angry John]

6 minutes ago, Poolshark said:

 

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with this, and I know there a ton of fantastic rods out there to choose from. My question is this...  what specifically about st Croix makes them the last place for one to look to fill all their rod needs? 

 

I will also have to agree here.  I love my croix and i have a lot of others.  Tons of great companies out there and i could go all Dobyns, all st croix or all daiwa and be good.  It helps manage expectation when ordering a different rod.  Croix, and dobyns have some of the best customer support and thats why i choose them most often.  Any product that has to due with pure fishing is out, to include fenwick.

[Bama bassin]

I guess I just liked it a lot better than all my other 100$ rods once I find a company I like I usually stick to it but I guess it doesn't really matter and none of the lakes I fish have really thick pads so I don't think I really need a heavy power rod so what rod would you guys recommend from any manufacturer for light pads and probably walking it in open water

[Loomis13]

7'0"+ and something MHF if St.Croix or Abu, if any other brand something HF. St.Croix and Abu tend to run a little heavier; ie a st.croix medium is gonna fish a little heavier than a Loomis or Dobyns medium. At least that is the generally accepted rule of thumb and I have found that to be true.

[Bama bassin]

Also would like to keep it under 150$

[Poolshark]

15 minutes ago, Bama bassin said:

I guess I just liked it a lot better than all my other 100$ rods once I find a company I like I usually stick to it but I guess it doesn't really matter and none of the lakes I fish have really thick pads so I don't think I really need a heavy power rod so what rod would you guys recommend from any manufacturer for light pads and probably walking it in open water

If you like st Croix, which I do, than they would make a fantastic collection of rods. IF you are not fishing heavy pads or matts, than a 7 ft medium heavy fast action mojo bass would work great. it  would also double as a great rod for jigs, Texas Riggs, senkos, buzz toads, small soft swimbaits and spinnerbaits. 

I love st Croix rods and own quite a few. I think they are a great company. There is nothing wrong with them to fill your needs. 

I see the merit in going with one company for all your rods. There will be more consistency between power and taper ratings and it can help you develop a better feel when picking rods for your different techniques. 

Hope that helps 

[Fishin' Fool]

38 minutes ago, Bama bassin said:

Also would like to keep it under 150$

 

For the price point you're looking at check out the Daiwa Tatula 7'4" heavy frog rod. Also the Irod Genesis II as someone else suggested.

[fishnkamp]

I guess I will say I am sorry, the meaning behind my comment was not expressed clearly enough. I did not mean that I  HATE St Croix rods. Their lines are fine, but built more generally and less technique specific, if that makes it more clear. For instance I was looking for a 6'6 to 6'10 medium action rod with a fast taper specifically for finesse baits like Sencos, lightweight texas rigs etc. They have a Avid X 6'8" mxf that on paper should be the ticket. I picked the rod up and it is anything but an extra fast rod. The rod bent all the way down to the 5th guide (tip guide and 4 more). That might be something someone else would like, but it was more like a medium moderate to me.  Compared to the Dobyns I would say it was a 2 power not a 3 or 4 power spinning rod. I would use that Avid X for drop shotting.  I used to fish with three St Croix Premier rods  and when I purchased them they were near the top of the lineup and my budget. I have since sold them off in favor of newer offerings that target my uses more precisely.  I just find Powell, Irod and Dobyns have lineups of rods that target specific actions that I like. Currently my favorite jig rod is a Powell Max 683 CEF. For square bills,rattle traps, small to mid sized cranks, etc I love my Irod Genesis II 703CC and a Falcon Bucoo Micro Trap Caster.  My frog rod is a Champion XP  DX705C. The best choice would have been a DX735C but I can not fit rods longer than 7 foot in my current boats rod locker.

Either way my suggestion was more about the merit of looking at other lineups and maybe the one company only is not the way to go.  If I was going to stay with St Croix then with your budget leads you towards  a Mojo Bass 7'1 MH or 7'4"hvy