how would you fish it?

[Scarborough817]

okay so i have done about all the thinking i can on this one i do not have a fish finder, i do not have a good idea of the depths or contours of the lake i just have these 2 pics one shows a general idea of depth the other shows water flow and topo of the area where would you fish and what would you fish there?

the scale of depth is in meters i have converted it to feet for my friends from the south

1m=3.28' | 2m=6.56' | 3m=9.84'

4m=13.2' | 5m=16.4' | 6m=19.68'

[riverbasser]

You've got 3 or 4 really good points with creek channel and deep water nearby. I would throw just about anything in my tackle box on them. Depending on depth, water clarity and vegetation/cover

[Scarborough817]

7 minutes ago, riverbasser said:

You've got 3 or 4 really good points with creek channel and deep water nearby. I would throw just about anything in my tackle box on them. Depending on depth, water clarity and vegetation/cover

i'm looking at those as well

the one in the larger bay where they creak channels intersect has a small gravel/rip rap/sandbar which can be seen in the other picture not really much vegetation except for some pencil reeds on it obviously i don't really know what the vegetation is like underwater since the clarity is probably about 5' at most 

the one in the back bay (far left through that narrow channel) has a lot of intersections so i am going to spend a decent amount of time cranking in there

[riverbasser]

I really like the one on the far right and the far left. The middle/right one looks pretty dang good too. These might be highly pressured tho

[Scarborough817]

Just now, riverbasser said:

I really like the one on the far right and the far left. The middle/right one looks pretty dang good too. These might be highly pressured tho

not really it's a fairly small lake and there are only 2 people (myself included) who fish the lake on a regular basis

[jr231]

I don't have a depth finder either. Usually I pond hop because I have a young family that demands most of my time. And you'd crap yourself if you seen the private waters I have access to. Such a treat. Anyway.

 

I do have a small Jon boat and kayak. Without any electronics (I hope to fix that this year , but I have to keep the lights on) at least a depth finder would be nice. The thing is , I almost always manage to find fish... When I do get out on lakes they are usually less than 500 acres. The biggest being 3000. The best advice I can give is to find the baitfish. No matter what the forage is , if the little ones are around.. so are the bass. Shallow areas next to deep ones almost always hold fish.. my favorite are coves ! They are almost always stuffed with fish... Weedlines, timber, docks, and rip rap all help me locate bass without electronics. 

 

Find the forage next to cover and the bass are there. 

[Blackhawk83]

I agree with consensus opinion focus on main points near deep water access also try to focus on areas with two or more types of structure i.e. Grass/stumps/rocks

[WRB]

Small natural lake with 3 main lake basin zones.

Tell use about the predator fish that live in this lake and what type of prey fish does it have?

Tom

[Scarborough817]

4 hours ago, WRB said:

Small natural lake with 3 main lake basin zones.

Tell use about the predator fish that live in this lake and what type of prey fish does it have?

Tom

only predator fish are laregemouth and smallmouth, prey are bluegill, rockbass and craws

[TriCityBassin']

Google maps! Look at the sat image/photo. You will be able to make out detail and taper of those points. Also look for brush lines or stump rows in the images to get more info on bottom contour. Now you have 3 maps

The points with the creek channels the others spoke of are money. Assuming you have grass in this natural lake look at the island on the left of your map. One side is a steep drop and the other sides are shallow with maybe a saddle. Post spawn I would hit that hard with spinnerbait cranks and topwater.

["hamma"]

Bass like change, the left side of the maps deep water, has not only a island to the east but also a nice point to the west.,.. The deeper water in the middle of the map has some decent changes, at the point to its east adding in a couple shoals to the points south and north. The deep water to the right of the map has not only a point to its east, but a island or shoal to its north. Id check all these areas out.

[WRB]

Without pelagic bait fish the LMB in this natural lake will more than likely be located in shallow water down to about 8' from pre spawn to fall and use the deeper water during winter. The Smallmouth bass roam and prefer rocky, gravel areas, stumps feeding mostly on crawdads and minnows. Smallies will go deeper in this natural lake, but stay above any thermocline during the summer.

The obvious points, islands, saddle zones and narrows are good areas for smallmouth bass, however the bay's play a major roll for dermasel prey like bluegill, minnows, frogs, craws and terrestrial prey for the LMB. 

Tom

[CrustyMono]

one of the points I'm going to make again is to fish the points

[Scarborough817]

3 hours ago, WRB said:

Without pelagic bait fish the LMB in this natural lake will more than likely be located in shallow water down to about 8' from pre spawn to fall and use the deeper water during winter. The Smallmouth bass roam and prefer rocky, gravel areas, stumps feeding mostly on crawdads and minnows. Smallies will go deeper in this natural lake, but stay above any thermocline during the summer.

The obvious points, islands, saddle zones and narrows are good areas for smallmouth bass, however the bay's play a major roll for dermasel prey like bluegill, minnows, frogs, craws and terrestrial prey for the LMB. 

Tom

so you're thinking is that because there are no baitfish that tend to migrate that the bass are much more likely to stay shallow from pre-spawn to late fall? 

 

[Bluebasser86]

What time of year are you talking about? The backs of those shallow bays with feeder creeks in them are going to be good early when the water starts to warm up. 

[WRB]

18 minutes ago, Scarborough817 said:

so you're thinking is that because there are no baitfish that tend to migrate that the bass are much more likely to stay shallow from pre-spawn to late fall? 

 

Where you live is on the northern edge of LMB range in the Canadian Shield zone.

If this lake has yellow pearch or crappie that are pelagic LMB may venture out over deeper water, you said it doesn't. The LMB prey source is close to the shallower water zones, more specially near the stream inlet areas. Smallmouth are more aggressive hunters and roam more than LMB and I would expect them near deeper water breaks.

Tom

[Scarborough817]

6 hours ago, WRB said:

Where you live is on the northern edge of LMB range in the Canadian Shield zone.

If this lake has yellow pearch or crappie that are pelagic LMB may venture out over deeper water, you said it doesn't. The LMB prey source is close to the shallower water zones, more specially near the stream inlet areas. Smallmouth are more aggressive hunters and roam more than LMB and I would expect them near deeper water breaks.

Tom

there used to be brook trout in the lake but i don't believe there are anymore the population of bigger largemouth have eaten them so i don't believe the MNR is stocking with trout anymore

[WRB]

10 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

What time of year are you talking about? The backs of those shallow bays with feeder creeks in them are going to be good early when the water starts to warm up. 

Toronto lakes are frozen oven now, not sure when it thaws. In small natural lakes in Canada it's been my limited experience LMB stay close to the shoreline and move into bays to spawn and stay there most of the summer and may move onto points or around the shallow water near islands and reefs but don't move into the deeper water because nothing to eat out there.

Tom

 

[Scarborough817]

15 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

What time of year are you talking about? The backs of those shallow bays with feeder creeks in them are going to be good early when the water starts to warm up. 

I'm thinking more summer bass season don't open until the 4th Saturday in June. I'm thinking focus on points close to deep water

[RoLo]

I'm not real interested in the speculative & variable prey on this lake,

but if you can provide the name of this precambrian water

I might be able to provide some high percentage coordinates (cartography-dependent).

 

Roger

[Snipe Hunter]

Aside from the obvious points, there's a couple flats in about 6ft of water I'd be looking at as soon as the water starts to warm. Particularly, whichever area has sun in it first in the AM. The biggest one is the far upper left bay. It's near deep water. I'd be hitting that transition between the flat and the deep water in the spring pre-spawn. There's a similar area under and just to left the word "North". And another flat at the lower bend of the lake near deep water. I suspect they will get grass first and be the warmest areas as soon as the sun starts warming the lake. The points the rest of the year.

[Scarborough817]

thanks for all the input guys i really appreciate it. i will probably invest in a decent fish finder for either this year or next