riverbasser Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 My minds already on summer ledges for some reason and im curious what others use for deep diving crankbaits. I'm classifying deep as 20' and up. Also please specify the line you use. I noticed berkley has a newish diver called the Dredger, it supposedly reaches 26'. Any use this one? 2 Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 20, 2017 Super User Posted January 20, 2017 Beware of lure mfr claims of deep diving lure depths. The depth may be possible to achieve when trolled with specific line type and diameter behind a boat traveling at optimal speed with 100+ feet of line out. Casting ant deep diver over 150' and retrieving it to dive to maximum depth is nearly impossible. What is interesting about the Berkley 21' & 26' deep divers is they are only 3" long. Take a look at a Scrounger jig, it sinks to whatever depth you need to reach. Tom 7 Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted January 20, 2017 Super User Posted January 20, 2017 A 6XD will scratch bottom in 20' of water on a long cast with 10 pound fluoro. I haven't used a crank that runs deeper than it, but for 15' to 20' feet the 6XD is my favorite. As WRB said, a lot of manufacturers will claim their lure runs deeper than it does. It's hard to get a 3" crank that will actually run 20'. I wonder how the Berkley Dredger will do myself. 3 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted January 20, 2017 Super User Posted January 20, 2017 Ive never heard of the Berkely Dredger . I'll be sure to give them a try this year . Interesting lures . They have a weight in the lip like the old rebel Double Deep Wee R .I'm not one that has to try a lot of new lures but I'm going to get one in each size , probably all in Fire tiger . lol 2 Quote
junyer357 Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 I had no problems hitting 20+ last year with 8 and 10xd's. I throw them on a 7'10" enigma rod with a tatula 5:1 with 12# flouro. I have picked up a few deep arashi and other deep cranks to try this year recently. 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted January 20, 2017 Super User Posted January 20, 2017 Mann's Deepledge, Depth Plus, & EZ30+ Norman's DD22HD Poe's Competition Cedar Crankbaits 1 Quote
riverbasser Posted January 20, 2017 Author Posted January 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, Catt said: Mann's Deepledge, Depth Plus, & EZ30+ Norman's DD22HD Poe's Competition Cedar Crankbaits I've never been able to get my DD22 to 20'. This could be my fault not getting a long enough cast or something 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted January 20, 2017 Super User Posted January 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, riverbasser said: I've never been able to get my DD22 to 20'. This could be my fault not getting a long enough cast or something What many people refuse to do! I do it with traps to 7 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted January 20, 2017 Super User Posted January 20, 2017 The following list are baits that are for me, legit 20 ft plus deep divers. There may be others, but these are the ones I've got experience with. They are almost all fairly larger baits that I can & do throw on 30 lb braid (suffix 832) and believe it or not, on big (20lb) mono. Bill Norman DD 22 HD Crankbaits Duo Realis Crankbait G87 20A Lucky Craft SKT Magnum 120 Mag DR Crankbaits Strike King 8XD & 10XD Crankbaits Some are pictured below ~ and just for a size reference, the top bait is a 10XD FYI @riverbasser - be fore warned - regardless of what some claim, I'm here to say, 8 hours of chunking & winding these baits can test anyone's intestinal fortitude. A-Jay 5 Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 20, 2017 Super User Posted January 20, 2017 David Fritts stated they rate the Berkley new deep divers using .011 dia line and thought that was important to note. IF Fritts is right about the new designs they will change how deep diving cranks are designed, smaller size with less water resistance that dive deep, can't wait to give these a try out. Tom 5 Quote
riverbasser Posted January 20, 2017 Author Posted January 20, 2017 @A-Jay yes I'm aware of that. Throwing the DD22 is basically like fighting a fish all the way to the boat. I don't tend to throw these for long periods unless they are really biting them. I will say that I'm probably not using the best equipment for deep divers as well but what I have works BTW in your picture you saying the very top bait is a 10xd? If so then the 2 below it are HUGE! 6 minutes ago, WRB said: David Fritts stated they rate the Berkley new deep divers using .011 dia line and thought that was important to note. IF Fritts is right about the new designs they will change how deep diving cranks are designed, smaller size with less water resistance that dive deep, can't wait to give these a try out. Tom I hope they are just as he says. Thanks for that video @scaleface Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted January 20, 2017 Super User Posted January 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, WRB said: David Fritts stated they rate the Berkley new deep divers using .011 dia line and thought that was important to note. IF Fritts is right about the new designs they will change how deep diving cranks are designed, smaller size with less water resistance that dive deep, can't wait to give these a try out. Tom Looking forward to your review Tom ~ This new Berkley bait's shape reminds me of the original wooden Poe's Super Cedar Series baits. A-Jay 1 minute ago, riverbasser said: @A-Jay yes I'm aware of that. Throwing the DD22 is basically like fighting a fish all the way to the boat. I don't tend to throw these for long periods unless they are really biting them. I will say that I'm probably not using the best equipment for deep divers as well but what I have works BTW in your picture you saying the very top bait is a 10xd? If so then the 2 below it are HUGE! I hope they are just as he says. Thanks for that video @scaleface After a bit of time with an Lucky Craft SKT Magnum 120 Mag DR Crankbait, fishing a standard DD22 is like a "rest". A-Jay 2 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted January 23, 2017 Super User Posted January 23, 2017 I went ahead and ordered the Dredgers , one in each size all Fire Tiger . 2 Quote
Hez Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 58 minutes ago, scaleface said: I went ahead and ordered the Dredgers , one in each size all Fire Tiger . Awesome! Looking forward to hearing how they perform for you! Please keep us updated 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted January 23, 2017 Global Moderator Posted January 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Hez said: Awesome! Looking forward to hearing how they perform for you! Please keep us updated I have a couple, they're solid baits. The whole Berkley lineup of hard baits has been very productive for me. Nice to have a reasonably priced hardbait option that comes in good colors AND with good hardware. 3 Quote
Hez Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Bluebasser86 said: I have a couple, they're solid baits. The whole Berkley lineup of hard baits has been very productive for me. Nice to have a reasonably priced hardbait option that comes in good colors AND with good hardware. Thanks, I appreciate your input. The good hardware is important 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted January 23, 2017 Super User Posted January 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, Hez said: Awesome! Looking forward to hearing how they perform for you! Please keep us updated Its going to be awhile before I use those 20 footers ,probably July . 1 Quote
Hez Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 1 minute ago, scaleface said: Its going to be awhile before I use those 20 footers ,probably July . Understandably. Gives me one more thing to look forward to. Thank you for that. Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted January 24, 2017 Super User Posted January 24, 2017 I'm going to buy several of most of the models. 1 Quote
chadmack282 Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 On Friday, January 20, 2017 at 0:06 AM, WRB said: Beware of lure mfr claims of deep diving lure depths. The depth may be possible to achieve when trolled with specific line type and diameter behind a boat traveling at optimal speed with 100+ feet of line out. Casting ant deep diver over 150' and retrieving it to dive to maximum depth is nearly impossible. What is interesting about the Berkley 21' & 26' deep divers is they are only 3" long. Take a look at a Scrounger jig, it sinks to whatever depth you need to reach. Tom Tennessee River Scrounger specifically. Quote
Super User king fisher Posted January 24, 2017 Super User Posted January 24, 2017 Does anyone know how deep old metal lipped plugs like Hellbender, bomber, mudbug, water dog dive? 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted February 4, 2017 Super User Posted February 4, 2017 I received the Berkely Dredgers in each size . 10.5 : 9 to 11.5 foot deep 14.5 : 12 to 15.5 foot deep 17.5 : 16 to 19.5 foot deep 20.5 : 20 to 22.5 foot deep 25.5 : 22 to 26 foot deep Rebel Deep Wee R for comparison 4 Quote
riverbasser Posted February 4, 2017 Author Posted February 4, 2017 3 hours ago, scaleface said: I received the Berkely Dredgers in each size . 10.5 : 9 to 11.5 foot deep 14.5 : 12 to 15.5 foot deep 17.5 : 16 to 19.5 foot deep 20.5 : 20 to 22.5 foot deep 25.5 : 22 to 26 foot deep Rebel Deep Wee R for comparison Been wanting to ask you about them. Get em wet yet? Quote
Super User scaleface Posted February 4, 2017 Super User Posted February 4, 2017 59 minutes ago, riverbasser said: Been wanting to ask you about them. Get em wet yet? Oh no . I usually dont start fishing until March or April . Quote
Super User scaleface Posted February 4, 2017 Super User Posted February 4, 2017 Here they are profile compared to other baits . Rebel Deep Wee R , Bomber Fat Free Shad , Norman Deep Little N , Rapala CR14 CrankinRap and strike King 6 XD . 2 Quote
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