Why do dark colored plastics catch fish in clear water?

[mixel]

Chart

http://www.thehulltruth.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=501768&stc=1&d=1424390461

 

This guy really breaks it down scientifically and it makes a lot of sense (to me). Part I of IV.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[scaleface]

6 hours ago, mixel said:

Chart

http://www.thehulltruth.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=501768&stc=1&d=1424390461

 

This guy really breaks it down scientifically and it makes a lot of sense (to me). Part I of IV.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Heres another interesting chart .What happens to light waves when the water goes from clear to muddy .

[Catt]

@scaleface now we gotta get the bass to read all them charts!

 

For whatever reason bass round here disagree

[scaleface]

1 hour ago, Catt said:

@scaleface now we gotta get the bass to read all them charts!

 

For whatever reason bass round here disagree

That chart does not state what color to use . It   states how light waves disappear  under water . Its not some crazy made up stuff .

[MrPeanut]

I think action / profile / location are all more important than color, so I try to keep it basic with colors; stocking up on black&blue and green pumpkin for the most part.

 

I do use variations of those and get some goofy looking colors too though, because even though they're out there to catch fisherman more than fish in some cases, fishing's a hobby so why not? If it works it works. I don't fish in tournaments, so to me, if an odd colored robo worm doesn't get as many bites on a drop shot as a different color, it's not a loss of money or tournament points or anything, its just "oh well, I'll try a different color when I crack open a beer, I'm still not at work "

[mixel]

Checkout the difference between a bright and dark colored bait in stained water

 

 

[scaleface]

^^ Amberbock , Michelob , Bud Light  and water  ^^

[Catt]

41 minutes ago, scaleface said:

That chart does not state what color to use . It   states how light waves disappear  under water . Its not some crazy made up stuff .

 

As seen through human eyes & interpreted by the human brain!

[scaleface]

1 minute ago, Catt said:

 

As seen through human eyes & interpreted by the human brain!

LOL no , the chart does not mention eyes or brains . Light waves only .

[WRB]

Several scientific factors to consider:

Fish, including bass, have very different eyes then humans do.

Fish and birds can see a wider spectrum of colors then humans can.

Fish, including bass, have brains that interpret underwater light waves, humans live out of water and must take a light source underwater to see color.

Any study that uses light waves based on human sight isn't sceintific!

Tom

[Catt]

4 minutes ago, scaleface said:

LOL no , the chart does not mention eyes or brains . Light waves only .

 

Might wanna reword this

 

Ya making too easy!

[J Francho]

Why do bass bite any colored thing in any water?  They're hungry.  Find hungry bass, and you've won half the game.  If I'm all the way down my list of variables, to a specific color or pattern, it's been a very difficult day of fishing.

[Catt]

3 minutes ago, WRB said:

Several scientific factors to consider:

Fish, including bass, have very different eyes then humans do.

Fish and birds can see a wider spectrum of colors then humans can.

Fish, including bass, have brains that interpret underwater light waves, humans live out of water and must take a light source underwater to see color.

Any study that uses light waves based on human sight isn't sceintific!

Tom

 

Y'all ever look at colorful fish like bluegill under water & the take it out of the water?

 

What ya notice?

[mixel]

How about some more info

 

Bass Vision

http://www.bassmaster.com/news/biologists-look-bass-senses

 

http://www.bradwiegmann.com/fish-biology/39-fish-biologist/119-characteristics-of-largemouth-bass-vision.html

[scaleface]

  Water absorbs the energy in light  . Blue has shorter light waves than red  thus it has more energy . So red light is absorbed relatively quickly blue penetrates deeper.  When suspended particles are entered in the equation blue is effected more than red . The blue  light waves are closer together and get blocked faster . I am not making this up and it is easy to understand . This does not involve eyes or brains . Eyes or brains do not figure into it at all .  

[mixel]

42 minutes ago, WRB said:

Several scientific factors to consider:

Fish, including bass, have very different eyes then humans do.

Fish and birds can see a wider spectrum of colors then humans can.

Fish, including bass, have brains that interpret underwater light waves, humans live out of water and must take a light source underwater to see color.

Any study that uses light waves based on human sight isn't sceintific!

Tom

 

You're making some incredibly wide ranging assumptions here and then chide someone for not being scientific. LOL. Just a few of your assumptions:

 

All birds and fish see color the same.

All fish see the same.

 

 

 

[WRB]

21 minutes ago, mixel said:

 

You're making some incredibly wide ranging assumptions here and then chide someone for not being scientific. LOL. Just a few of your assumptions:

 

All birds and fish see color the same.

All fish see the same.

 

 

 

Never said all. Fact, the human eye has very poor low light color detection and a limited color spectrum. For example we need aides to see ultra violet. Some birds and fish, including bass, see detailed colors in low light and may see ultra violet color spectrum.

Tom

[mixel]

True, you didn't say 'all' but when you state 'fish and birds', it is implied because you did not specify which birds or fish you were referring too. Since we aren't concerned with birds or non-bass fish for this discussion, it seems it would be more pertinent to focus on facts about bass with some links preferably to back up your stated argument.

 

Can you provide more information and a link on your third statement regarding a (bass) fish's ability to 'interpret underwater light waves' ? I'm a bit confused by that statement.

[The Bassman]

Homer Circle once said that only the fish know and they're not talkin'.

[afrayed knot]

WRB summed it up pretty well I think

[Catt]

17 hours ago, scaleface said:

This does not involve eyes or brains . Eyes or brains do not figure into it at all .  

 

Ya kidding right?

[scaleface]

45 minutes ago, Catt said:

 

Ya kidding right?

Catt , you're the one who keeps bringing eyes and brains into it . The chart I posted has nothing to do with a basses eyes and brain  , humans eyes and brain  or an aardvarks eyes and brain .  Bass could be completely blind but the light waves act the same way . You are making an argument where one does not exist .  

 

[Turkey sandwich]

Yeah.    This argument.  The guy who wrote the book on this showed up here and the conversation got chippy. I like WRB and Catt, but this is one conversation where I've embraced agreeing to disagree and avoid the topic.  Lol. 

[Catt]

1 hour ago, scaleface said:

Catt , you're the one who keeps bringing eyes and brains into it . The chart I posted has nothing to do with a basses eyes and brain  , humans eyes and brain  or an aardvarks eyes and brain .  Bass could be completely blind but the light waves act the same way . You are making an argument where one does not exist .  

 

 

I totally understand all the "scientific" charts & research but you're failing to understand it's "as seen by human eyes & interpreted by a human brain".

 

As to what a bass sees & does not see or how it interprets what it sees is shear speculation!

 

To the human eyes & brain red " disappears" under water (actually changes color) but yet it's highly productive.

 

This whole thread & thousands of hours of experience by anglers leads one to believe bass don't see what we see.

 

How does a bass find my black worm sitting perfectly still on the bottom in 25' of water on a moonless night?

[scaleface]

29 minutes ago, Catt said:

 

 

As to what a bass sees & does not see or how it interprets what it sees is shear speculation!

 

 

Yes  and I am not pretending to know how a bass perceives its environment . I have stayed away from that .