How many carry while out fishing in the boat.

[K1500]

I think many who carry do so not for use on the water itself but for the drive and stops on the way and back, not to mention the possibility of sleazy characters at the ramp itself. Remote boat launches sometimes attract the lawless. 

 

Leaving a firearm in a truck at a ramp is not the smartest idea for a number of reasons. Possible theft is one. Coming back to the ramp after dark with some sketchy characters loitering about is another. If you aren’t going to bring it in the boat don’t bring it at all. 

[NHBull]

A week ago I was involved in a case of road rage where an individual got out of his car and was coming at me as he was yelling that I should just drink bleach!  The closing time of someone of 15 feet away is fast and had he had a visible weapon it would have been his last steps.  When he saw me taking off my glasses and throw them in the shrubs, he thought twice and stopped.  Nothing happened!.......but it does show you how quickly things can change.  Truth be told, you best have the proper mindset and many of my acquaintances do not!  For them an expandable wand would be better....

 

ps. I did report this to the police and come to find out, he is my new neighbor 2 houses down.  It may be a little awkward at the block party this Summer

[RoLo]

I have a house full of guns that I purchased with game animals and hunting in mind.

Carrying a loaded weapon with humans in mind, can escalate an otherwise benign situation
into a life-destroying event (The carrier's life). It could end up in killing an unarmed person,
a person with a toy gun or the death of an innocent bystander. In all cases, kiss your life goodbye.

Now put yourself in the shoes of the armed person truly bent on someone's destruction. 
As soon as a carrier goes for his weapon, it's going to end like a spaghetti western.    
 

Roger

[928JLH]

Different strokes for different folks. In AZ it's just second nature to take a pistol. Just like getting your keys and wallet going out the door. Made the choice a long time ago to always have the option not to be a victim. I'd rather be a protector and situationally alert 24/7. I've seen quite a few road rage incidents and unfortunately millions are out of work now. I expect things to get much worse.

[NDbass13]

On 5/17/2020 at 5:46 PM, NHBull said:

A week ago I was involved in a case of road rage where an individual got out of his car and was coming at me as he was yelling that I should just drink bleach!  The closing time of someone of 15 feet away is fast and had he had a visible weapon it would have been his last steps.  When he saw me taking off my glasses and throw them in the shrubs, he thought twice and stopped.  Nothing happened!.......but it does show you how quickly things can change.  Truth be told, you best have the proper mindset and many of my acquaintances do not!  For them an expandable wand would be better....

 

ps. I did report this to the police and come to find out, he is my new neighbor 2 houses down.  It may be a little awkward at the block party this Summer

Glad it worked out.   Ive carried since I was 21 and have worked in law enforcement.   I can tell you that as much as police would love to prevent crime investigating crime is a larger part of the job.  Ones situational awareness is the best skill we have.  

[RoLo]

On 5/18/2020 at 8:11 PM, NDbass13 said:

Ones situational awareness is the best skill we have.  

 

To be sure. 

By the same token, anyone claiming he doesn't carry, provides only a false sense of security. 

More than one way to skin a cat 

 

Roger

[NHBull]

9 minutes ago, NDbass13 said:

Glad it worked out.   Ive carried since I was 21 and have worked in law enforcement.   I can tell you that as much as police would love to prevent crime investigating crime is a larger part of the job.  Ones situational awareness is the best skill we have.  

The one thing I didn’t mention is that my son is a State Cop and was just a 2 minutes behind me and would have been to late if things went sideways. I believe prior military experience and having been in similar situations before gives you situational awareness and removes emotions from the situation.  I also believe emotions get many in trouble in the first place

[slonezp]

47 minutes ago, NHBull said:

The one thing I didn’t mention is that my son is a State Cop and was just a 2 minutes behind me and would have been to late if things went sideways. I believe prior military experience and having been in similar situations before gives you situational awareness and removes emotions from the situation.  I also believe emotions get many in trouble in the first place

If people thought with their heads and not with their emotions, the world would be a better place.

 

[Way2slow]

For me, it's not practical.  The two lakes I mostly fish, one has a very large sign saying "NO FIREARMS ALLOWED BEYOUND THIS POINT" about a 1/2 mile before you get to the ramp. 

The other lake, half the lake and areas we fish are in Mexico, and while it would be comforting to have, it would not go over very well if you happen to be checked by Mexican officials.

[PourMyOwn]

On 5/18/2020 at 12:25 PM, 928JLH said:

Different strokes for different folks. In AZ it's just second nature to take a pistol. Just like getting your keys and wallet going out the door. Made the choice a long time ago to always have the option not to be a victim. 

Sounds like a hot, dry New Hampshire. When I got my concealed carry permit years ago my police chief (who had to run the paperwork) told me that one third of the households in my town have that same permit. Knowing people around here, that tells me that at least half the remaining households never bothered with the permit and are heavily armed anyway.

[Sam]

Every time I take the boat out I have my .38 in the glove compartment of my Ranger.

[kayaking_kev]

My city of around 40,000 people is sometimes called "Little Chicago" for a good reason. Most of the time I carry, especially if I'm carrying around $550 rods or I'm fishing at night. I wear a belly band so I can carry with gym shorts and it holds my S&W 9mm Shield with a Crimson Trace LG-489 and 3 extra magazines comfortably. 

[Guitarfish]

That's being prepared for the zombies!

[N Florida Mike]

On 12/22/2019 at 11:05 PM, DanielG said:

This is the old, "even cars can be used as a weapon". Thing is. A car was invented to get you from point A to Point B. Sometimes it's used as a weapon. Anything can be called a weapon but few things were designed to be one. Firearms are designed for one thing. To kill things. 

Some people do like to target shoot. Actually, a lot of people like to. I have a bro. in law like that. He doesnt hunt  and has never shot anyone.

[N Florida Mike]

I dont have a ccp because I have a couple mentally unstable relatives. They said they’d get theirs when I did, so... I wont, although I might be able to pull it off without them knowing. ( these are close relatives- I’ll leave it at that)

Where I used to camp a lot ( about as remote an area as you can find in florida) , guns were outlawed except hunting season. This was a big struggle for me because I am extremely law abiding but wanted me and family members to be safe. Result was...

I always had my pistol in reach. 

Once, when the wife and me were camped out there, 3 guys on dirtbikes rode up. I got a strange vibe from them because, after the initial greeting, they wouldn’t leave. It seemed like they were waiting for something. I got on the other side of the truck with the pistol under my shirt. I did not move from that spot until they eventually left. If they were up to something, I think they got the message from my stance not to try anything.

[schplurg]

The "but I target shoot" argument falls flat to me. Other arguments do not, but that one is meaningless. I wanna target shoot a bazooka. So what if some people use them to blow each other up? Seriously man, everyone just wants to ruin a good time.

 

I'm familiar with and have owned guns. I have a gun safe in my room. I could see carrying in the woods bank fishing certain places. But a boat on a lake? I say again, I wouldn't fish (or live) anywhere that I thought it was necessary to do so. And I tend to think that most people are pretty stupid, especially on the water, so it doesn't fill me with confidence to know some boaters carry.

 

Then again, 6 out of every 10 gun deaths in 2017 were suicides, almost 24,000. I'm not really worried about being shot when most people are shooting themselves. More fish for me!

 

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/08/16/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/

[RoLo]

 

I carry a lunch, does that count 

 

 

[K1500]

I could see wearing a seatbelt when driving on a dangerous road, but when driving to the lake to fish? I would just find some other road or some other lake if driving there was so dangerous that I felt like I needed a seatbelt. 

[gnappi]

On 6/6/2020 at 12:48 AM, K1500 said:

I could see wearing a seatbelt when driving on a dangerous road, but when driving to the lake to fish? I would just find some other road or some other lake if driving there was so dangerous that I felt like I needed a seatbelt. 

Would you please have Rand McNally put all of the dangerous roads on the map? Oh, Google too? Or is that some racist sentiment? 

 

I lived in an area with multi million dollar homes, there were two murders and one attempted murder from 100-300 yards from my house. 

 

The only dangerous roads are where dangerous people are at that moment. I do not PLAN on meeting them but am prepared in the event I do run into them on a previously NOT dangerous road.

 

 

 

 

 

[TAFKABCF]

Check your sarcasm meter, it must be broken.

 

[Teal]

I carry all the time 

[Smells like fish]

May God help the man or beast that bothers me! I keep an Ozark Trail multi tool on hand. Oh the many horrid things I could do to you with that piece of junk. 

[RoLo]

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[NYWayfarer]

1 hour ago, Smells like fish said:

May God help the man or beast that bothers me! I keep an Ozark Trail multi tool on hand. Oh the many horrid things I could do to you with that piece of junk. 

I have my Ozark Trail knife, opens as fast as a switchblade, and some pepper spray. If that don’t get me out of harms way then I guess it was my time.

[slonezp]

We've seen videos of boats ramming other boats out of spite and land owners threatening boaters because they are fishing on "Their" property.

 

I've had to deal with unhappy landowners who believe the water in front/behind of their property belongs to them. People can get irate and unfortunately we have no gauge as to what will push someone over the edge. I've been peppered with birdshot for getting too close to a duck blind. Do you launch/load in the dark? Why wouldn't someone carry, just in case?

If I never have to brandish or fire my sidearm, I'm way ahead of the game. This is what I'm banking on but it's there if I need it.