Super User FryDog62 Posted January 10, 2017 Super User Posted January 10, 2017 Is there a really good hook cutter for getting gut hooked removed from a smallmouth... not going in thru the gills, I do that too, but when it's really down partially into the stomach and the gill approach doesn't work. I've used some other hook cutters before but sometimes a smallies jaw is small enough you can't get in there far enough to grab the hook. Thanks -- Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted January 10, 2017 Global Moderator Posted January 10, 2017 I've always been told you do more harm than good trying to get that out of there. If I can't get the hook out I just bite the line and let him keep it. They can pass a hook 2 Quote
Super User Spankey Posted January 12, 2017 Super User Posted January 12, 2017 You need a quality brand of side cutters. The fish will fare better if you don't do anything if you can't do it properly. Hook will rot and dissolve on its own. 1 Quote
patred Posted January 14, 2017 Posted January 14, 2017 If you want overkill, try Knipex mini bolt cutters. They slice hooks like butter. Pat 3 Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted January 14, 2017 Super User Posted January 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, patred said: If you want overkill, try Knipex mini bolt cutters. They slice hooks like butter. Pat They are not overkill when you are hooked & a flopping bass is going crazy while hooked to you. Just ask my buddy John. 2 Quote
Turkey sandwich Posted January 17, 2017 Posted January 17, 2017 I'm a big fan of selective harvest if the fish is badly hurt and legal size. I don't keep many, but typically when I do, it's because the fish isn't likely to survive. Or if they look like a walleye. I have this terrible tendency of mistaking walleye for badly hooked smallmouth. 4 Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted January 17, 2017 Super User Posted January 17, 2017 This is one of those "ounce of prevention" deals, barbless hooks are much easier to remove from game fish you intend to release. oe 5 Quote
Super User Crestliner2008 Posted January 17, 2017 Super User Posted January 17, 2017 It became amazing to me to find out that my fish landing ratio did NOT go down when employing barbless hooks. So now, I crush the barb down on them all, including trebles, with no regrets. And, if it does happen that you get a hook in you, it will come out a lot faster being barbless, than trying to find that pair of wire cutters - that you know you have - but just can't seem to find right then. An "ounce of prevention" kind of thing. 2 Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted January 19, 2017 Super User Posted January 19, 2017 I also fish barbless a lot of the time when going after smallmouths. My most frequent spots are good for numbers, not size. So I use a lighter rod and pinch my barbs down. With how fast the run and change direction, and how high and often they jump, having to keep line pressure 100% of the time really makes landing all the 9-13" fish a lot more enjoyable. 1 Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted January 19, 2017 Super User Posted January 19, 2017 8 hours ago, Bunnielab said: keep line pressure 100% of the time really makes landing all the 9-13" fish a lot more enjoyable. I find landing the smaller smallmouth barbless to be more challenging than bringing a larger specimen to hand. oe Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted January 20, 2017 Super User Posted January 20, 2017 5 hours ago, OkobojiEagle said: I find landing the smaller smallmouth barbless to be more challenging than bringing a larger specimen to hand. oe Well, I sadly have little experience with larger smallies, but the smaller ones do kick up quite a fuss. The same river has a great population of very large redbreast sunfish and they will hit most finesse lures. They don't move as quickly as the bass, but they pull like a truck and seem to always run right at me and try to escape down river. 1 Quote
offsidewing Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 Barbless here. I take my Gammy and Owner hooks and mash the barb with pliers when I tie it on. zero affect on landing fish because I took the extra 30 minutes over the winter to read how to properly set hooks. 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted January 31, 2017 Super User Posted January 31, 2017 On 1/17/2017 at 0:53 AM, Turkey sandwich said: I'm a big fan of selected harvest if the fish is badly hurt and legal size. I don't keep many, but typically when I do, it's because the fish isn't likely to survive. Or if they look like a walleye. I have this terrible tendency of mistaking badly hooked smallmouth for walleye. Me too .I kept a six lb bass last year because she wasnt going to make it . Quote
Turkey sandwich Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 Most of the fish that I end up taking because of injury tend to be in the smaller 12-15" bracket. For whatever reasons, it just seems like the smaller fish are the ones most prone to getting mangled. I can't tell you the last time I kept anything over 20". Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted February 11, 2017 Author Super User Posted February 11, 2017 I spent a week in a gin-clear, very deep Canadian lake where there were no walleye... our guides made shore lunch every day. We were to keep enough smallies for lunch, and only in the 12-13 inch range. They were excellent!! Hard to tell the difference from a walleye. As hard as that is for me to admit because I don't like to see them harvested in general. The guides said to not keep anything over 13 inches and someone did bring one in around 15" and it actually was a little darker meat and noticeably fishy tasting. So I'm still not a fan of eating smallmouth - unless they are the occasional short kind ... Quote
Neil McCauley Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 In terms of prevention...not sure hook barbs are even the issue with this. How'd the smallie partially swallow your hook/lure in the first place? Might be something you're doing.. Can't say I can remember the last time I ever had a SMB swallow a hook. It can happen with plastics or live bait, but neither of those hooks are worth messing with trying to cut. Only times I commonly see hardbaits and other lures (esp inline spinners) hooked deep it's with Perch or Pike. Quote
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