This thing is insane...!

[Largemouth21]

I checked out a Daiwa Rg-ab and they are so smooth and relatively inexpensive. The problem where to buy at. I looked in-store at cabelas and the size 2500 is 49.99. On the site it is 59.99. Anyway I found the reel online at Walmart and it is about 48 dollars with free in store pickup. Anyway I was wondering why it is so cheap, is there an old model of RG-AB or something? I think the reel came out in June 2016.

is it old or something I'm really confused on why it's so much cheaper...

[deaknh03]

6 minutes ago, Largemouth21 said:

I checked out a Daiwa Rg-ab and they are so smooth and relatively inexpensive. The problem where to buy at. I looked in-store at cabelas and the size 2500 is 49.99. On the site it is 59.99. Anyway I found the reel online at Walmart and it is about 48 dollars with free in store pickup. Anyway I was wondering why it is so cheap, is there an old model of RG-AB or something? I think the reel came out in June 2016.

is it old or something I'm really confused on why it's so much cheaper...

because its a cheaply made reel.

[Largemouth21]

1 hour ago, deaknh03 said:

because its a cheaply made reel.

Ok... Compared to a Stratic, yes it is cheaper. BUT for the price these reels are insane. What I'm trying to ask is why are they cheaper at Walmart. If you order from Tackle Warehouse or Cabelas it's like 60 dollars but it's about 48 from Walmart. I'm trying to ask if there is an older model of the RG-AB or are the prices just really good at Walmart. I'm saying this because maybe there is a RG-AB from a few years ago that is cheaper but not as good. I want the newest model because the one I tested at Cabelas was insane.

[Jeff H]

There is not an older model, they are all the same.  get it wherever you want.

[deaknh03]

Wal marts MO is to tell vendors that for Wal mart to carry their product, it has to be the cheapest available option, undercutting the vendors margins, and every other store selling that product. That's the "secret" to Wal marts low price (s).

[Largemouth21]

1 hour ago, Jeff H said:

There is not an older model, they are all the same.  get it wherever you want.

Thank you that answered my question perfectly thank you.

[MJinMN]

I purchased a Revros last year and was blown away with how nice of a reel it is for $59.  The RG-AB is new this year and seems to be the same as the Revros only lighter.  I recently purchased a 2500 RG-AB but won't be able to fish with it until the ice melts.  Personally I think it's the best bang for the buck spinning reel on the market today.  

[Largemouth21]

8 hours ago, MJinMN said:

I purchased a Revros last year and was blown away with how nice of a reel it is for $59.  The RG-AB is new this year and seems to be the same as the Revros only lighter.  I recently purchased a 2500 RG-AB but won't be able to fish with it until the ice melts.  Personally I think it's the best bang for the buck spinning reel on the market today.  

I compared it to a Stratic Ci4+ at the store and it was just as smooth I thought... I was planning on the size 2500 also. 8lb mono for finesse

[A-Jay]

8 minutes ago, Largemouth21 said:

I compared it to a Stratic Ci4+ at the store and it was just as smooth I thought... I was planning on the size 2500 also. 8lb mono for finesse

 

The 2500 RG is priced right but does come in a full 2.1 ounces heavier than the same size Ci4+ .. .. .. .. .. 

 

A-Jay

[basss]

Everything is cheaper at Walmart, they have HUGE buying power based on the volume of sales they make.

 

Mom and Pop shop killers I call them.  I am willing to pay a bit more to support local vs Walmart.

[Largemouth21]

9 hours ago, basss said:

Everything is cheaper at Walmart, they have HUGE buying power based on the volume of sales they make.

 

Mom and Pop shop killers I call them.  I am willing to pay a bit more to support local vs Walmart.

If only I had a 'mom,and pop shop' around my area. Then it might be different

22 hours ago, A-Jay said:

 

The 2500 RG is priced right but does come in a full 2.1 ounces heavier than the same size Ci4+ .. .. .. .. .. 

 

A-Jay

True. but in my price range it is wonderful. No way could I spend 200+ on a reel. I just don't have the money. (Not putting down people who do, if I could I would buy top end equipment but I'm satisfied with what I have)

[Sammies77]

On 1/10/2017 at 7:19 PM, A-Jay said:

 

The 2500 RG is priced right but does come in a full 2.1 ounces heavier than the same size Ci4+ .. .. .. .. .. 

 

A-Jay

That's not necessarily a bad thing. I like spinning reels in 8-9 oz range. They seem to balance the best on most spinning rods. 

 

 

I think some guys get way too hung up on weight. If a 9 oz spinning reel is too heavy maybe golf or even knitting would be a better hobby. 

 

[A-Jay]

12 hours ago, Sammies77 said:

That's not necessarily a bad thing. I like spinning reels in 8-9 oz range. They seem to balance the best on most spinning rods. 

 

 

I think some guys get way too hung up on weight. If a 9 oz spinning reel is too heavy maybe golf or even knitting would be a better hobby. 

 

 

I did not express an opinion good or bad, simply pointed out the difference.

I'd agree that heavier reels do a great job of balancing out heavier rods.

The same a lighter reels might do for a rod that matches it.

Any achieved or perceived benefit  from either one may be different with each angler and is also often reflected in the price point.

 

A-Jay

[ww2farmer]

12 hours ago, basss said:

Everything is cheaper at Walmart, they have HUGE buying power based on the volume of sales they make.

 

Mom and Pop shop killers I call them.  I am willing to pay a bit more to support local vs Walmart.

Mom and Pop often have killed themselves.

 

I am for supporting local small business, but when "mom and pop" charge..........for example.......... $6.99 for a bag of Yum dingers that BPS, Walmart, TW, etc......charge $2.99 for, I draw the line.  There is a difference in a modest mark-up to stay viable with the big guys on every corner................and then there is just greed and ignorance.

 

Lots of time, "mom and pop" deserve to go out of business because..............well, they are bad at it.

[OCdockskipper]

34 minutes ago, ww2farmer said:

Mom and Pop often have killed themselves....

 

As a small business owner myself, I totally agree with this.  If I can't offer something of value to the customer that they can't get from a larger competitor, then why am I in business?  

 

Typically, a smaller company can outmaneuver a larger company as far as expertise and certain kinds of service.  When it comes to buying a pack of Senko's, those potential advantages are for naught.  When a product becomes a commodity, the larger companies with buying advantages will (& should) win.  

 

It has been my experience that to continue to stay in business, I need to adjust and do the things that big companies aren't good at.  Oddly enough, sometimes it is nothing more than simply returning a phone call promptly or actually looking a customer in the eye & listening to them when they have a question.  Not all purchases are 100% rational decisions, people often choose who they want to buy from based on emotion or feelings.

[dwh4784]

I figured that out years ago when I had a 1971 VW Bus that someone had painted with roll on house paint, and I decided to give it some class by sanding all of that off (that the rain hadn't washed away) and rattle canning it instead (with primer and clear coat at least). Every local hardware store sold that exact same Rustoleum paint can for $4-$5 until I stopped by the local "mom and pop" and they had it on the shelf for $8.99. I've never been back, for anything, and never will.

[basss]

14 hours ago, Largemouth21 said:

If only I had a 'mom,and pop shop' around my area. Then it might be different

True. but in my price range it is wonderful. No way could I spend 200+ on a reel. I just don't have the money. (Not putting down people who do, if I could I would buy top end equipment but I'm satisfied with what I have)

 

By mom and pop I meant smaller retail shops, something other than multi-national conglomerates.

 

Also, nothing wrong with fishing with what you have.  The fish don't know how much you spend on your gear anyway.  I don't recall ever being upset by catching a fish on my cheaper rods than I was when catching fish on my more expensive rods.

11 hours ago, ww2farmer said:

I am for supporting local small business, but when "mom and pop" charge..........for example.......... $6.99 for a bag of Yum dingers that BPS, Walmart, TW, etc......charge $2.99 for, I draw the line.  There is a difference in a modest mark-up to stay viable with the big guys on every corner................and then there is just greed and ignorance.

 

 

For sure ... within reason of course.

[bigfruits]

12 hours ago, Sammies77 said:

I like spinning reels in 8-9 oz range. They seem to balance the best on most spinning rods. 

 

 

I think some guys get way too hung up on weight. If a 9 oz spinning reel is too heavy maybe golf or even knitting would be a better hobby. 

 

 

interesting. ever since i tried a Ci4 spinning reel i have not been able to use my aluminum stradics for fresh water fishing. all of my spinning rods (UL-H) are balanced with the light weight reels.

[AzBassin]

On 1/11/2017 at 4:55 PM, Largemouth21 said:

If only I had a 'mom,and pop shop' around my area. Then it might be different

True. but in my price range it is wonderful. No way could I spend 200+ on a reel. I just don't have the money. (Not putting down people who do, if I could I would buy top end equipment but I'm satisfied with what I have)

Last counted i have 53 reels, least half i purchased used. In normal use on high end reel they tend to lasts lifetime with proper care.  I fully understand your situation on money. Im mearly suggesting dont be afraid to buy good reel used say on ebay.   Best example i can recall is, a kid at boatramp was having trouble with his brand new shimano slx dc. He purchased it with understanding a dc reel wont backlash. 
while i was digging out his back lash i let him use my scorpion dc in same frame as his.  Mine had the better electronics and line adjuster braid mono floro. He was blown away.  Turns out i paid half what he did.  He never back lashed mine. 
 

second point. 
 

when wanting to learn bait casters. I kept at it always buying cheap reels. Ea year step up price still not happy. 
 

then when purchased high end reel used it was game on.   Never again will i try to budget with cheap reels, just buy good one used or new and be done.  Eventually that cheap reel will let you down in my opinion. 

[ironbjorn]

On 1/11/2017 at 9:50 PM, ww2farmer said:

Mom and Pop often have killed themselves.

 

I am for supporting local small business, but when "mom and pop" charge..........for example.......... $6.99 for a bag of Yum dingers that BPS, Walmart, TW, etc......charge $2.99 for, I draw the line.  There is a difference in a modest mark-up to stay viable with the big guys on every corner................and then there is just greed and ignorance.

 

Lots of time, "mom and pop" deserve to go out of business because..............well, they are bad at it.

Facts. I could never comprehend nor imagine intentionally paying more so another guy can buy a Corvette or something. I have a life to live, and life isn't cheap. 

[Bigassbass]

Mom & Pop stores are not always the best, I bought my first Shimano Ci-4 reel from one 40 miles from my house.  They sold me a returned reel that has never worked well, drag was screwed up. When I called them and wanted to return it, they said NO.  So, I'm into ordering online or going to a big box store if they have what I want!

[garroyo130]

30 minutes ago, Bigassbass said:

Mom & Pop stores are not always the best, I bought my first Shimano Ci-4 reel from one 40 miles from my house.  They sold me a returned reel that has never worked well, drag was screwed up. When I called them and wanted to return it, they said NO.  So, I'm into ordering online or going to a big box store if they have what I want!

 

Honestly the best game lately has been buying Used - Like New items on Amazon. 8/10 times they have some sign of use/wear and when reported to Amazon they do a returnless refund.