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I stink at flipping with my casting gear, it's constant backlashes. Maybe I don't have my reel settings optimized. Just curious are there many of you out there using your spinning gear for that purpose? I have always been much more accurate casting with spinning gear however I don't know if it's as easy to flip/pitch. 

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3 minutes ago, BrianinMD said:

You can use spinning for any tactic/cast, not optimal on some but functional.

 

You can use a zebco if u wanted, just practice practice

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19 minutes ago, KDW96 said:

 

You can use a zebco if u wanted, just practice practice

 

I did. I had to cut two backlashes out yesterday :(

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Yes . I use to pitch standing timber with spinning gear . Just keep the bail open and the lure falls straight down the trunk .

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You can do both. I pitch small jigs and plastics all of the time with spinning gear. you can even feather the line with your finger to slow it down (hand not making the cast).

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You certainly can but casting gear gives you so much more control when pitching and flipping.  Put some cheap line on your baitcasting reel and practice, practice, practice!  I promise you'll be glad you did.

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I would say you certainly can, but you will likely be limited by weight of the lure and you will also lose potential accuracy.  I am sure there is someone out there that can sniper pitch a 3/4 oz jig from 20 yards though so try some different stuff til you find what you like.

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44 minutes ago, RichF said:

You certainly can but casting gear gives you so much more control when pitching and flipping.  Put some cheap line on your baitcasting reel and practice, practice, practice!  I promise you'll be glad you did.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

You can get by fine with spinning gear if it's stout enough, but sooner or later it's going to cost you a good fish. Freshwater spinning tackle that is comfortable to fish with for hours on end just doesn't have the power to winch a 5+ lb fish wadded up in 30 lbs of grass on a regular basis like a light weight, but powerful casting rig. You could always go with some in-shore, or salt water rated spinning gear if you want.............but fish with that for 8-10 hours straight and you'll wish you didn't.

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3 hours ago, Fishin' Fool said:

I stink at flipping with my casting gear, it's constant backlashes. Maybe I don't have my reel settings optimized. Just curious are there many of you out there using your spinning gear for that purpose? I have always been much more accurate casting with spinning gear however I don't know if it's as easy to flip/pitch. 

Hey Fishing Fool, not all reels are made the same. What I mean by that is, I was having issues as well.

I have found that my Scorpion DC7 isn't very good for flipping. I tried it for a while, but this reel excels in long casts. I think the digital brake system doesn't really have enough time to kick in when flipping, so I was ending up with all kinds of backlashes and line knots. I haven't had that issue since switching to a Tatula Type R. I keep my brake setting on around 8 out of 20 (Magforce Z) that seems to do the trick. So my point is some baitcasters are better for flipping than others.

 

What do you use?

 

 

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I pitch cast with my spinning reels all the time, it is perfect to get small lures into holes in cover to to bounce them off of something to fall softly into the water.  I cannot flip with one at all however, the handle seems to foul the line often enough to be annoying and my short rods are not great to flipping in any case.  

 

There is an older guy at one of my local ponds who seems to always be flipping a small weighted stick worm into the shoreline pads using a spinning combo.  He seems to consistently catch too, so he must be doing something right.  

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As everyone else said you certainly can. Use the tips they gave you.  

 

Now...Flipping with a baitcaster doesn't require a disengaged reel..It's all line.The reel stays locked. 

Pitching with a baitcaster is all thumb. It'll take a while, just keep practicing you'll get it. 

 

If you have a specific question just ask

 

 

 

Mike 

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Sometimes I will sit in my chair or couch and tie on a 1/2 oz jig and pitch across the room while watching TV to get the feel for the reel and my thumb and the timing of when it's going to hit the "water". 

 

What can I say, it's cold here.

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11 minutes ago, TheRodFather said:

Sometimes I will sit in my chair or couch and tie on a 1/2 oz jig and pitch across the room while watching TV to get the feel for the reel and my thumb and the timing of when it's going to hit the "water". 

 

What can I say, it's cold here.

 

This is how I got good at it!  Eventually added bowls and cups into the mix as targets. 

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Pitch = tossing a bait to specific targets or areas. Usually done with a flick of the wrist. Like trying to pitch a paper ball into the trash can. 

 

It's already been said a few times. Yes, it can be done but your typical spinning gear is aimed more towards lighter baits so it's not optimal. If you go with a heavier power spinning rod then sure. Practice makes permanent so just keep at it with your casting rod and next thing you know it'll be a piece of cake. 

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3 hours ago, SFL BassHunter said:

Hey Fishing Fool, not all reels are made the same. What I mean by that is, I was having issues as well.

I have found that my Scorpion DC7 isn't very good for flipping. I tried it for a while, but this reel excels in long casts. I think the digital brake system doesn't really have enough time to kick in when flipping, so I was ending up with all kinds of backlashes and line knots. I haven't had that issue since switching to a Tatula Type R. I keep my brake setting on around 8 out of 20 (Magforce Z) that seems to do the trick. So my point is some baitcasters are better for flipping than others.

 

What do you use?

 

 

 

Tatty Ct. Part of the problem could be I was flipping in the basement with 8 foot ceilings. We have no high ceilings in my house and it was below zero this weekend here. I made it one attempt outside lol.

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49 minutes ago, Fishin' Fool said:

 

Tatty Ct. Part of the problem could be I was flipping in the basement with 8 foot ceilings. We have no high ceilings in my house and it was below zero this weekend here. I made it one attempt outside lol.

Hmm, the Tatula does a good job of keeping my line from overrunning or backlashing.

 

BTW I got them backwards lol. Flipping might be easier on the spinning outfit. Pitching is what I do where I thumb the line to prevent a backlash. I always get the two terms mixed up.

 

I think you're right, the ceiling might be an issue.

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Tape is your friend when you are learning.  Pull off some line that will be a bit more then the max you will be pitching then put tape on the reel. Now, when you practice, you will have very little line to backlash.  

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5 hours ago, Mike L said:

As everyone else said you certainly can. Use the tips they gave you.  

 

Now...Flipping with a baitcaster doesn't require a disengaged reel..It's all line.The reel stays locked. 

Pitching with a baitcaster is all thumb. It'll take a while, just keep practicing you'll get it. 

 

If you have a specific question just ask

 

 

 

Mike 

 This ^^^^^^^  I was reading posts and was wondering when someone was gunna say it

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6 hours ago, SFL BassHunter said:

Hey Fishing Fool, not all reels are made the same. What I mean by that is, I was having issues as well.

I have found that my Scorpion DC7 isn't very good for flipping. I tried it for a while, but this reel excels in long casts. I think the digital brake system doesn't really have enough time to kick in when flipping, so I was ending up with all kinds of backlashes and line knots. I haven't had that issue since switching to a Tatula Type R. I keep my brake setting on around 8 out of 20 (Magforce Z) that seems to do the trick. So my point is some baitcasters are better for flipping than others.

 

What do you use?

 

 

The question is Spinning gear not casting

Just bustin your chops btw.

Or am I?

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Not having to worry about a backlash/overrun is to me the best part of pitching with spinning combo.  Hell, that is my favorite thing about using on in general.  I am willing to make a far more challenging pitch/cast with a spinning combo and like knowing that if I misjudge things  and my lure hits a log I was trying to pitch under I might just loose my lure, not my lure, my line, and the time it takes to deal with the backlash.  

 

The downside is that it seems much slower to hand close the bail and get the slack picked up to be ready for a hook set then just being able to crank the handle and set the hook.

 

 

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10 hours ago, Fishin' Fool said:

I stink at flipping with my casting gear, it's constant backlashes. Maybe I don't have my reel settings optimized. Just curious are there many of you out there using your spinning gear for that purpose? I have always been much more accurate casting with spinning gear however I don't know if it's as easy to flip/pitch. 

Because I fish from a kayak, flipping with spinning gear, to me, is easier. I am actually closer to the desired location compared to a boat so I can flip very short distances. My only issue is the line getting tangled with the reel handle, other than that, no problems. Plus the reel handle is on the left and you can reel without switching hands. Dude, keep practicing and you will get it. 

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