Michael Yi Posted January 9, 2017 Author Posted January 9, 2017 6 hours ago, Jrob78 said: A license. i already have one. i think i will be catching bass, last time i went i think i was catching some bluegill and might start out with bluegill and work my way up. This might be a stupid question but what does medium action or medium/fast mean?
Michael Yi Posted January 9, 2017 Author Posted January 9, 2017 On 1/7/2017 at 10:26 PM, fishnkamp said: MY best suggestion is to get a 6'6" to 7 foot medium action spinning rod. It is your most versatile rod to begin with. Match it up with a nice moderate priced reel. I really do not suggest ever buying "beginner" gear. Buying that means you will be upgrading too soon. I prefer to suggest moderate priced gear that will last for years of service. When you purchase your next combo you are not replacing but rather adding to your fishing arsenal. The price of the Ugly stick combos range somewhere around $50. If your budget allows it let's add a little more and get you a better setup. For a reel look at a Pflueger President 6930. Spool it with 10 pound Stren mono. That is going to cost $60 but will last a decade or more. Some of mine are that old. Now look at a rod like a Berkley Lightning Shock rod. They are $49.99 at Bass Pro but can often be found online for less. They are both available through Dicks sporting Goods online also. Now lets ask some questions. If you look around your part of the state do you have some small rivers, lakes or ponds that you will be able to shore fish or in the case of a small stream or river perhaps you can wade? The type of water will help you decide on some tackle to go with that starter setup. my friend recommends me the battle 2 spinning wheel but saw the price tag on that thing and thats pretty expensive. I am prob going to get the pflueger 6930 10 pound with maybe the berkely or the abu garcia veritas
Super User WRB Posted January 9, 2017 Super User Posted January 9, 2017 17 minutes ago, Michael Yi said: i already have one. i think i will be catching bass, last time i went i think i was catching some bluegill and might start out with bluegill and work my way up. This might be a stupid question but what does medium action or medium/fast mean? Take a look at "what does all this mean? " thread, on page 2 of this forum. Tom
Super User fishnkamp Posted January 9, 2017 Super User Posted January 9, 2017 The Penn battle 2 is a nice reel but not cheap. Let me show you what we are talking about when describing specs of a rod. The power refers to a rods lifting power ( loosely) so a ultra light rod would be more of a panfish and small trout rod and a long heavy power fast action rod will handle lures in the 1/2 to say 2 ounce weight category and be more useful throwing big heavy baits. Now that is a bit over simplified answer but you get the idea. Actions can be best visualized by looking at this picture. Now what does this mean. We tend to use slow, moderate and mod fast rods to fish lures that can tear out easily like crankbaits, Pop R type top water baits and jerkbaits, these all have treble hooks. These rod also are not as sensitive as faster action rods, so we usually use fast and extra fast rods for baits that bump along the bottom like jigs, worms and creature baits, like crayfish looking plastics. These faster actions are generally better with lightly weighted or unweighted finesse baits like a Sencos or worms. My recommendation for a medium power mod fast or fast action rod was obviously a generally good compromise or all around good choice. Again the Pflueger President in a 6930 size would be a good reel for you for $60. A 6835 would be fine if you feel more comfortable with the bit larger reel and want more line capacity. Either way it will make a good bluegill, crappie, bass rig. I especially like the idea of the medium Abu Garcia Veritas rod. Those are $100 rods on sale for around half that. Let me tell you a real fishing story. we live in MD and vacation in KY on a lake called Dale Hollow. We were there fishing for big smallmouth bass this last April. We arrived right after spawn, so the females were on main lake in big grass beds just hanging out recouping. Here I stand on the deck of my bass boat. I have 16 rods of my own and 7 of my wife's rods onboard. These include some very long and expensive baitcasting combos. The darn fish would not eat anything. We ended up both throwing these little 3 inch worms called Ned rigs on tiny 1/10 ounce lead headed jigs called Shroomz heads. We had to pull out two very expensive G Loomis rods we owned just to throw these baits and feel them in 6 to 20 feet of water. The rods are 6 foot long, light power fast action rods. They handle baits that weigh between 1/16 and 5/16 of an ounce. Happily, we landed at least a dozen bass over 5 pounds. On the last day my wife hooks and lands an 8 pound catfish that took over 5 minutes to fight. Meanwhile I am sitting in the driver's seat laughing because she is running from the front to the back of the boat constantly chasing the big cat. The morale is we would never had gone fishing for those big cats with such light gear, she could have easily broken that $275 G Loomis rod. She fought that fish with a Pflueger 6930 reel and it suffered no harm. That is the exact reel I am suggesting would work nicely for you. That particular reel is over 5 years old and is working as good today as when it was new. There are lots of other quality reel out there, but I have total confidence in these reels. They are not on my rods because of price, they are there because time and time again they work 1
Michael Yi Posted January 9, 2017 Author Posted January 9, 2017 3 hours ago, fishnkamp said: The Penn battle 2 is a nice reel but not cheap. Let me show you what we are talking about when describing specs of a rod. The power refers to a rods lifting power ( loosely) so a ultra light rod would be more of a panfish and small trout rod and a long heavy power fast action rod will handle lures in the 1/2 to say 2 ounce weight category and be more useful throwing big heavy baits. Now that is a bit over simplified answer but you get the idea. Actions can be best visualized by looking at this picture. Now what does this mean. We tend to use slow, moderate and mod fast rods to fish lures that can tear out easily like crankbaits, Pop R type top water baits and jerkbaits, these all have treble hooks. These rod also are not as sensitive as faster action rods, so we usually use fast and extra fast rods for baits that bump along the bottom like jigs, worms and creature baits, like crayfish looking plastics. These faster actions are generally better with lightly weighted or unweighted finesse baits like a Sencos or worms. My recommendation for a medium power mod fast or fast action rod was obviously a generally good compromise or all around good choice. Again the Pflueger President in a 6930 size would be a good reel for you for $60. A 6835 would be fine if you feel more comfortable with the bit larger reel and want more line capacity. Either way it will make a good bluegill, crappie, bass rig. I especially like the idea of the medium Abu Garcia Veritas rod. Those are $100 rods on sale for around half that. Let me tell you a real fishing story. we live in MD and vacation in KY on a lake called Dale Hollow. We were there fishing for big smallmouth bass this last April. We arrived right after spawn, so the females were on main lake in big grass beds just hanging out recouping. Here I stand on the deck of my bass boat. I have 16 rods of my own and 7 of my wife's rods onboard. These include some very long and expensive baitcasting combos. The darn fish would not eat anything. We ended up both throwing these little 3 inch worms called Ned rigs on tiny 1/10 ounce lead headed jigs called Shroomz heads. We had to pull out two very expensive G Loomis rods we owned just to throw these baits and feel them in 6 to 20 feet of water. The rods are 6 foot long, light power fast action rods. They handle baits that weigh between 1/16 and 5/16 of an ounce. Happily, we landed at least a dozen bass over 5 pounds. On the last day my wife hooks and lands an 8 pound catfish that took over 5 minutes to fight. Meanwhile I am sitting in the driver's seat laughing because she is running from the front to the back of the boat constantly chasing the big cat. The morale is we would never had gone fishing for those big cats with such light gear, she could have easily broken that $275 G Loomis rod. She fought that fish with a Pflueger 6930 reel and it suffered no harm. That is the exact reel I am suggesting would work nicely for you. That particular reel is over 5 years old and is working as good today as when it was new. There are lots of other quality reel out there, but I have total confidence in these reels. They are not on my rods because of price, they are there because time and time again they work Do you recommend the 2 piece or the 1 piece abu? and its the spinning one right? 2 piece cost $12 more and i think i am going to buy it directly from amazon just in case i need the warranty so it will be $60 for the abu and 50ish for the 6930 and the total will be around $108
Super User fishnkamp Posted January 9, 2017 Super User Posted January 9, 2017 Yes it is the spinning rod and I suggest the 7 foot medium 1 piece for $47.89 plus $9.19 shipping. Look here https://www.amazon.com/Abu-Garcia-Medium-Veritas-Spinning/dp/B00PB7M55A/ref=sr_1_1?s=hunting-fishing&ie=UTF8&qid=1483939316&sr=1-1&keywords=veritas%2Bspinning%2Brod&th=1&psc=1 Currently i fish with two Veritas baitcasters a 7 ft MH and a 7 ft HVY.
Michael Yi Posted January 9, 2017 Author Posted January 9, 2017 3 hours ago, fishnkamp said: Yes it is the spinning rod and I suggest the 7 foot medium 1 piece for $47.89 plus $9.19 shipping. Look here https://www.amazon.com/Abu-Garcia-Medium-Veritas-Spinning/dp/B00PB7M55A/ref=sr_1_1?s=hunting-fishing&ie=UTF8&qid=1483939316&sr=1-1&keywords=veritas%2Bspinning%2Brod&th=1&psc=1 Currently i fish with two Veritas baitcasters a 7 ft MH and a 7 ft HVY. i have a small car, do you still suggest a 1 piece?
Michael Yi Posted January 9, 2017 Author Posted January 9, 2017 I decided to get the Abu Garcia Vertias 1 piece 7ft and the Pflueger President I got these, the 10 pound one is that fine?https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005OU1CLW/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483957107&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=pflueger+president&dpPl=1&dpID=51cNpUuuT4L&ref=plSrch
Super User fishnkamp Posted January 9, 2017 Super User Posted January 9, 2017 The ten pound is the largest and heaviest. I own one of those. It will work fine, I would have gotten the next one smaller but it will work fine.
Michael Yi Posted January 9, 2017 Author Posted January 9, 2017 8 hours ago, fishnkamp said: The ten pound is the largest and heaviest. I own one of those. It will work fine, I would have gotten the next one smaller but it will work fine. yeah i think the 10pound is to heavy, i decided to cancel the 10pound and get the 8lb reel
Super User Angry John Posted January 9, 2017 Super User Posted January 9, 2017 On 1/9/2017 at 2:13 AM, Michael Yi said: I decided to get the Abu Garcia Vertias 1 piece 7ft and the Pflueger President I got these, the 10 pound one is that fine?https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005OU1CLW/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483957107&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=pflueger+president&dpPl=1&dpID=51cNpUuuT4L&ref=plSrch if you decide to use amazon that is ok but I use tackle warehouse for everything and they have free shipping over 50 dollars and will price match. You can get everything you could ever want from them and they always treat me right!!!! https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/SupportCenter/OrderInfo/?from=basres#Guarantees
SFL BassHunter Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 15 hours ago, Michael Yi said: i have a small car, do you still suggest a 1 piece? Michael I have a Mustang. If you have a car that is smaller than that then maybe a 2 piece will be better. But I can fit rods through the truck of 7'6" in length without issue. So this all depends on what car you have.
basszilla Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 OK, I took a leap of faith and ordered the 7' medium 2-piece after reading this thread. First rod I've ever ordered online. Seems like a pretty good deal at about $65 with tax. Hope the feel and action are what I want.
basss Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 You can check the classifieds on this site too, quite a few members sell their gear for cheaper than retail. I'd recommend starting with two poles, a spinner and a baitcaster.
MDbassin Posted January 11, 2017 Posted January 11, 2017 On 1/8/2017 at 1:56 AM, fishnkamp said: Catfish can be a lot of fun, it requires a much stiffer setup than what we use for bass generally. That I generally true but I have reeled in 15lb cats on a medium/fast ugly stik gx2 spinning and it was a hell of a fight.. real fun catfishing on lighter tackle
Michael Yi Posted January 11, 2017 Author Posted January 11, 2017 My reel came in today, dang I ordered the 8lb reel but Amazon shipped me 10lb, oh well I guess 10lb will do.
SFL BassHunter Posted January 12, 2017 Posted January 12, 2017 4 hours ago, Michael Yi said: My reel came in today, dang I ordered the 8lb reel but Amazon shipped me 10lb, oh well I guess 10lb will do. If you are dead set on the 10, amazon has fantastic customer service. I usually don't even call, I use the live chat feature. They make things right when they screw up. You got a good reel there. Pflueger makes some good spinning gear. I have a Trion 25 which is awesome. It is smaller than the reel you got.
Super User Angry John Posted January 12, 2017 Super User Posted January 12, 2017 What is a ten pound reel. I assume you mean test line that it is rated for???
Michael Yi Posted January 12, 2017 Author Posted January 12, 2017 5 hours ago, SFL BassHunter said: If you are dead set on the 10, amazon has fantastic customer service. I usually don't even call, I use the live chat feature. They make things right when they screw up. You got a good reel there. Pflueger makes some good spinning gear. I have a Trion 25 which is awesome. It is smaller than the reel you got. edit: nvm they said there going to send a replacement. well its going to take me time to return it, then order it and shipping time lol.
Michael Yi Posted January 12, 2017 Author Posted January 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Angry John said: What is a ten pound reel. I assume you mean test line that it is rated for??? 10 pound 230yard reel
Super User fishnkamp Posted January 12, 2017 Super User Posted January 12, 2017 Amazon lists them by the top line listed for the reel. He received a 6940 and wanted a 6935.
Super User Angry John Posted January 12, 2017 Super User Posted January 12, 2017 wow that is confusing. Why not just list the reel by model number so its easy to find what you want and those of us who fish will recognize the correct product. Some times I just scratch my head!
Michael Yi Posted January 12, 2017 Author Posted January 12, 2017 2 hours ago, fishnkamp said: Amazon lists them by the top line listed for the reel. He received a 6940 and wanted a 6935. Is the 6935 the 10pound reel and the 8pound is the 6300? Because I did receive the 6935 but wanted the 6300, I was guessing that 8pound is the 6300? amazon was nice enough to ship me a replacement, now I am just waiting for it come. I guess I can take picture of the replacement specs to make sure I got the right one.
Super User fishnkamp Posted January 12, 2017 Super User Posted January 12, 2017 My wife and I use the 6930 reels for our 6 foot light power fast action rods( 1/16 to 5/16 ounce lures). On all of our other rods we use 6935 series reels. It weighs a bit more but holds more line. See how it feels on the rod I would expect it will balance fine. The larger arbor will help with longer casts.
Dylanald7! Posted January 12, 2017 Posted January 12, 2017 Some reels id recommend are the shimano caius, pflueger trion, abu Garcia black max, a lews speed spool for sure, or a daiwa laguna. All of these reels are around the average price of $50 and are great starter and or inexpensive reels. I have used all of these reels before and would rather buy three of any of these reels than go and spend my money on a $200 reel that performs just a tad bit better. These are just some good starter baitcasters that are well made reels.
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