Lipless Cranks Reel

[the reel ess]

Do you guys use a specific reel just for lipless cranks? Is it a higher line capacity reel? What's your preferred retrieve ratio? I'll be replacing mine soon.

[smr913]

I use a 50 size Shimano with 30# PP. I mostly throw smaller traps in the 1/4oz range. If I were to throw 1/2oz and larger I would opt for a 200 size reel since you can really bomb them. 

[npl_texas]

Dobyn's Fury 705CB

 

Sorry read that wrong and thought you were asking about rods

 

I throw mine on a Lew's Tourney MB 6.8:1

[Goose52]

You can certainly cast lipless cranks a long way so you wouldn't want to use a reel that was "line capacity challenged" !

 

I don't use a single reel for lipless cranks because I don't always fish them the same way. If I'm burning a lipless over grass and/or skinny water, I'm using a higher IPT reel. If I'm slow-rolling them deep, I'll use a slower IPT. However, if I had to pick a single ratio - I'd pick one giving about 26 IPT as a compromise.

[wdp]

I use a Curado 7:1 gear ratio. Some days they want it burned with a stop & go, so the higher gear ratio helps. When they want it slower or popped off the bottom, you can still slow down with this reel.

 

Its a 200 size reel. I use it for all my lipless cranks, 1/4 & 1/2. Only time I change is when I use my ultralight to throw 1/8 oz. 

[the reel ess]

1 hour ago, npl_texas said:

Dobyn's Fury 705CB

 

Sorry read that wrong and thought you were asking about rods

 

I throw mine on a Lew's Tourney MB 6.8:1

I have that reel in 7.5:1 for frogs and jigs. I was thinking I'd like to have another because I have yet to backlash it. And they make one with a higher capacity spool.

 

I have a 6-6 M rod to get me by for a while. I'll probably replace with a 7 footer someday.

[new2BC4bass]

17 minutes ago, the reel ess said:

I have that reel in 7.5:1 for frogs and jigs. I was thinking I'd like to have another because I have yet to backlash it. And they make one with a higher capacity spool.

 

I have a 6-6 M rod to get me by for a while. I'll probably replace with a 7 footer someday.

 

You aren't trying hard enough. 

[the reel ess]

1 hour ago, new2BC4bass said:

 

You aren't trying hard enough. 

I'll try harder. Well, I've had it a year. But it is my frog and jig rod, so it usually has something heavy tied on. I have several reels older than a decade. Reels have come a long way n that time.

[Raul]

3 hours ago, the reel ess said:

I have that reel in 7.5:1 for frogs and jigs. I was thinking I'd like to have another because I have yet to backlash it. And they make one with a higher capacity spool.

 

I have a 6-6 M rod to get me by for a while. I'll probably replace with a 7 footer someday.

 

You ain't brave enough if you can't backlash a reel, just lower them brake settings and release some of that spool tension.

[RedHeadAngler]

I use my Shimano Citica g which is a 7.1:1 and it works fine.

[fishnkamp]

If you are looking at adding a really nice ( read moderately priced) combo look at a Falcon Bucoo Micro Trap caster. It is listed as a 7foot medium moderate rod. I would consider it to be just a tick faster, for me  it handles my traps really well, but also some larger deeper diving cranks.  Mine is matched up with a 6.3-1 Daiwa Tatula CT. it works well for me.  Sometimes the Bucoos can be found for less than $50 online. It retails for $100.

[new2BC4bass]

16 hours ago, the reel ess said:

I'll try harder. Well, I've had it a year. But it is my frog and jig rod, so it usually has something heavy tied on. I have several reels older than a decade. Reels have come a long way n that time.

 

Yup.  A heavier weight helps.  I purchased a used Trion that came spooled with a light braid.  Figured it would work well with the unweighted worms I fish with when visiting Florida since the spool spun so freely when the cluctch was disengaged.  Have a Medium Compre I keep there so I used that rod with the Trion.  Was a backlashing machine.  Sent it to Mike for a cleaning.  He was able to cast some fairly light lures with it after the cleaning, but suggested I go with heavier line and lures.  Spooled on 17# mono, mounted it on a 6'10" HF Tour Edition, and haven't backlashed it once since then.

[crypt]

I use a 24 year old Abu Pro MAX 1600 that has been geared up to 6.3-1 . small in size but a beast of a reel.

[roadwarrior]

Fast retrieve: Aldebaran

 

http://fish.shimano.com/content/sac-fish/en/home/products/fishing-reels/baitcast/aldebaran.html

 

 

 

 

[bigfruits]

Lipless cranks dont have much resistance. I try to use a faster (and smaller) reel when i can get away with it. I'd go 7.x:1 for lipless cranks. I dont find it hard to slow it down when I want to present the bait slower.

 

 Only time I go down to 6.x:1 is for medium depth cranks or baits with a lot of resistance. I dont crank deep enough to justify the purchase of a 5.x:1.

 

 

[DaveT63]

For some reason, I prefer to throw lipless baits on a spinning combo.  I don't really know why, but I do.  I am currently using a Shimano Symetre 3000FL and love it for that purpose.

 

Dave

[the reel ess]

2 hours ago, bigfruits said:

Lipless cranks dont have much resistance. I try to use a faster (and smaller) reel when i can get away with it. I'd go 7.x:1 for lipless cranks. I dont find it hard to slow it down when I want to present the bait slower.

 

 Only time I go down to 6.x:1 is for medium depth cranks or baits with a lot of resistance. I dont crank deep enough to justify the purchase of a 5.x:1.

 

 

Neither do I.

1 hour ago, DaveT63 said:

For some reason, I prefer to throw lipless baits on a spinning combo.  I don't really know why, but I do.  I am currently using a Shimano Symetre 3000FL and love it for that purpose.

 

Dave

I will as well in a pinch or if I want to narrow down a color choice. I have a Trion Spinning reel and a 7' M Lightning Rod I'll sometimes use for treble lures. It's interesting to me that a M spinning rod blank would likely be a ML BC rod blank.

[new2BC4bass]

5 hours ago, crypt said:

I use a 24 year old Abu Pro MAX 1600 that has been geared up to 6.3-1 . small in size but a beast of a reel.

 

Identical to my Black Max 1600C except for its crappy finish and more bearings.  Very capable of throwing light weights even in some pretty high winds.  Line capacity is a little low, but plenty enough for bass fishing as long has line diameter isn't too big.  I need to change the gears in mine to the 6.3....if they are still available.  I bet with 12# line you can about spool it with a lipless crank.  Mine came with light braid.  I use 8# mono on my 1600 Morrums.  Fun reels.  

[crypt]

part # for gears are 22222 and 22221 for both main and pinion gears.

also have 5 black max's also. love em.

[Bluebasser86]

I've been using a Pflueger President 7.3 and most recently a KastKing Assassin which is a 6.3. Neither are large capacity reels bit they both do the job well.

[scbassin]

I have been using a Shimano Metanium 7:1.1 but this year it will be a Shimano Metanium XG 8:5.1. I believe in fishing those baits fast. When the water is warming up in the spring they will catch it, they will react to it.

[the reel ess]

On 1/1/2017 at 0:08 PM, scbassin said:

I have been using a Shimano Metanium 7:1.1 but this year it will be a Shimano Metanium XG 8:5.1. I believe in fishing those baits fast. When the water is warming up in the spring they will catch it, they will react to it.

I've always reeled them fast before I started fishing a local reservoir. They like them as slow as you can reel them and keep them off the grassy bottom. You have to just about put it in their mouths. But I still like a fast reel for it because it's fewer cranks per day.