Almost there!! This has been painful

[Largemouth21]

Decided on a budget rod and reel combo. Thanks for the help all! Rod 7 foot medium (possibly medium light I still need to check the rods out at a store) action Ugly Stik Elite. 60$ and Daiwa RG-AB. The problem is that I cant decide between size 3000 and 2500. the size 3000 weighs as much as my size 40 Pflueger President Limited Edition. I suppose I will have to look them over in the store. I learned that the hard way by buying the President LE without even holding it. I bought it on just reviews and I hate that reel. Its not even that smooth for 80$. Wish I could take it back now but it's too late Haha Anyway size 2500 or 3000. (8lb mono line and Species would be mostly Largemouth Bass, But also Bluegills Walleyes and Possibly Pike.

[The Bassman]

I would definitely go with the 2500 for the weight savings.

[Bluebasser86]

Just sell the President if you don't like it. They're great reels and you'd have no problems selling it.

 

A 2500 size is pretty standard for bass.

[Bass Turd]

A Pflueger 2500 size is generally their smallest reel. Designed for 4 and 6 lb line. It doesn't equate to a 2500 size Shimano spinning reel.

[Bluebasser86]

12 minutes ago, Bass Turd said:

A Pflueger 2500 size is generally their smallest reel. Designed for 4 and 6 lb line. It doesn't equate to a 2500 size Shimano spinning reel.

The 20 size is the smaller sizeof Pflueger reels. The 25 size is a good bass size as well as the 30 or 35.

[Bass Turd]

  This is the current President selection

[Jeff H]

If using 8 lb line you certainly don't need the 3000 size.

[JustJames]

I believe 6925 is about the same size, let say shimano 2500. But if you want both sizes reels, buy Shimano sysmetre FL 2500 and spare spool size 3000. I believe they are interchangeable. Now you have 2500 with 6-8 lb line and 3000 with maybe braided line.

[Big Bait Fishing]

2 hours ago, JustJames said:

I believe 6925 is about the same size, let say shimano 2500. But if you want both sizes reels, buy Shimano sysmetre FL 2500 and spare spool size 3000. I believe they are interchangeable. Now you have 2500 with 6-8 lb line and 3000 with maybe braided line.

the 6925 is a 1000 size reel

[Largemouth21]

6 hours ago, The Bassman said:

I would definitely go with the 2500 for the weight savings.

 

4 hours ago, Jeff H said:

If using 8 lb line you certainly don't need the 3000 size.

 

4 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

The 20 size is the smaller sizeof Pflueger reels. The 25 size is a good bass size as well as the 30 or 35.

 

6 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Just sell the President if you don't like it. They're great reels and you'd have no problems selling it.

 

A 2500 size is pretty standard for bass.

Won't the small spool of the size 2500 cause line twist and memory or not?

[JustJames]

1 hour ago, Big Bait Fishing said:

the 6925 is a 1000 size reel

My bad, mine is 6930 not 25.

[Big Bait Fishing]

11 minutes ago, JustJames said:

My bad, mine is 6930 not 25.

all good !! i have a 9525 (Pflueger Patriarch ) , i don't see my self buying a bigger spinning reel ever ...

[Big Bait Fishing]

7 hours ago, Largemouth21 said:

 Species would be mostly Largemouth Bass, But also Bluegills Walleyes and Possibly Pike.

those 4 species could be fished on four different reels !!

 1000 size - bluegill

 2500 size - bass

 3000 size - walleye

4000 size - pike

 

but if you are definitely gonna use it for all four , go with the 3000 as it has a lot of line capacity plus a higher drag .

[Turkey sandwich]

The 2500 size, in general, is an extremely versatile reel.  You could spool it with braid or light mono and have enough line for virtually any North American game fish. 

[The Bassman]

6 hours ago, Turkey sandwich said:

The 2500 size, in general, is an extremely versatile reel.  You could spool it with braid or light mono and have enough line for virtually any North American game fish. 

I have a '13 Shimano CI4+ 2500 that does everything from ultralight to inshore saltwater depending on the rod it's on and the line I'm using.

[Darren.]

Not sure how much help my opinion will be, but here
it is for maybe 2 cents  

 

I use 1000 for everything freshwater and in-shore.

Had no worries when I was in muskie waters in MN.

Was prepared to fight and play whatever I caught.

And if I lost the battle, so be it. HOWEVER....

 

If I were specifically targeting big Pike and Muskie,

I'd of course go heavier/larger spinning perhaps a
3000, or 4000. But you said "possibly", so pike is
not your target species. A 2500 will have no problem
with the occasional pike, and I wouldn't worry even
with a 1000...

 

I've caught dozens of LMB over 6# on my 1000 reels.

My avatar is one such 6.6# caught in a heavy wooded

area. It is no problem at all for the 1000 reel to handle.

And I've caught plenty of toothy critters as well (pickerel

here, up to 4#).

 

A 2500 would suit your needs just fine. Me? I'd go 1000
because I like smaller reels (lighter, less bulk), and with
10 or 15# braid + leader, I'm good to go.

[Largemouth21]

1 hour ago, Darren. said:

I use 1000 for everything freshwater and in-shore.

Had no worries when I was in muskie waters in MN.

Was prepared to fight and play whatever I caught.

And if I lost the battle, so be it. HOWEVER....

 

If I were specifically targeting big Pike and Muskie,

I'd of course go heavier/larger spinning perhaps a
3000, or 4000. But you said "possibly", so pike is
not your target species. A 2500 will have no problem
with the occasional pike, and I wouldn't worry even
with a 1000...

 

I've caught dozens of LMB over 6# on my 1000 reels.

My avatar is one such 6.6# caught in a heavy wooded

area. It is no problem at all for the 1000 reel to handle.

And I've caught plenty of toothy critters as well (pickerel

here, up to 4#).

 

A 2500 would suit your needs just fine. Me? I'd go 1000
because I like smaller reels (lighter, less bulk), and with
10 or 15# braid + leader, I'm good to go.

I am using 8 pound mono for Mostly bass. But some walleye and bluegill.

In the lakes I fish you can't help but catch a few pike but they're all about 2-3 feet they call them "hammer handle pike" Anyway what I'm trying to ask is will the 2500 cause more line twist because of the bigger spool? I fish clear water so braid isn't an option and the water has lots of snags so I really don't want to be retying a leader all the time so mono is my choice.

13 hours ago, Big Bait Fishing said:

those 4 species could be fished on four different reels !!

 1000 size - bluegill

 2500 size - bass

 3000 size - walleye

4000 size - pike

 

but if you are definitely gonna use it for all four , go with the 3000 as it has a lot of line capacity plus a higher drag .

Primary target species would be bass and walleye. When I said possibly pike I mean that I can't help but catch some pike because there  is a lot of pike in this lake that I bass fish in. I have a size 40 reel loaded with  10 lb mono for specifically pike. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Darren.]

5 minutes ago, Largemouth21 said:

Anyway what I'm trying to ask is will the 2500 cause more line twist because of the bigger spool?

 

I think you'll be fine with the 2500. Line twist will be
"normal", meaning it will happen depending on what

techniques you're using, but should be manageable.

 

And being a bigger spool means the coils will be larger,
so it will twist, but what can help there is using a 
line conditioner.

 

Are you using a stiff mono like Big Game, or XT?

[Big Bait Fishing]

14 hours ago, Largemouth21 said:

 

 

 

Won't the small spool of the size 2500 cause line twist and memory or not?

braid to leader will solve that !! .......  

[JustJames]

 

47 minutes ago, Big Bait Fishing said:

braid to leader will solve that !! .......  

 

X2

but with small braid, and light lure you might have problem of wind knot and braid wrap around the tip.

Any size spinning reels, you cannot really avoid line twisted with mono or fluro but some will be manageble with suitable line, or smaller line depend on size. 

 

On my sahara 750 come with spare spool so I have one with braid and another with 4lb Izor line when Trout fishing. I still see some twist but very minimum. 

 

All other of my spining reels sysmetre 2500 president 6930 and cheap daiwa now got daiwa J-braid 20lb.

 

you can try 8lb with line conditioner, if you still got the line twiste problem then go smaller like #6 copolymer or use swivel to help reduce line twist.

 

Check this out to prevent line twisted.

http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos/line-twist-spinning-reel.html

[Largemouth21]

1 hour ago, Darren. said:

 

I think you'll be fine with the 2500. Line twist will be
"normal", meaning it will happen depending on what

techniques you're using, but should be manageable.

 

And being a bigger spool means the coils will be larger,
so it will twist, but what can help there is using a 
line conditioner.

 

Are you using a stiff mono like Big Game, or XT?

Nah... I like Berkely Trilene XL its very limp and easy to handle

1 hour ago, Big Bait Fishing said:

braid to leader will solve that !! .......  

 

27 minutes ago, JustJames said:

 

 

X2

but with small braid, and light lure you might have problem of wind knot and braid wrap around the tip.

Any size spinning reels, you cannot really avoid line twisted with mono or fluro but some will be manageble with suitable line, or smaller line depend on size. 

 

On my sahara 750 come with spare spool so I have one with braid and another with 4lb Izor line when Trout fishing. I still see some twist but very minimum. 

 

All other of my spining reels sysmetre 2500 president 6930 and cheap daiwa now got daiwa J-braid 20lb.

 

you can try 8lb with line conditioner, if you still got the line twiste problem then go smaller like #6 copolymer or use swivel to help reduce line twist.

 

Check this out to prevent line twisted.

http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos/line-twist-spinning-reel.html

I fish in clear water with lots of snags so I really can't be retying my leader all the time but thanks for the suggestion 

[Fishinthefish]

I'd be more than happy to buy a president 25 series reel. If you don't want it, send a price my way

[Jeff H]

I fish waters that have pike in them every time I'm out.  I have quite a bunch of spinning reels, most of which are 2500 size Daiwa Exceler's and spooled with 6 or 8lb line.  They can handle any pike that swims even if the line can't.  I also have a pair of 3000 size Daiwa Exceler's that I use with heavier line (10lb Trilene XT) for skipping docks and throwing senko's in dirty water.  There is no question that the larger spool of the 3000 handles heavier line better, but a 2500 will handle 8lb very well.  The 3000 has a spool capacity of 240 yds of 8lb, 200 yds of 10...that's a LOT of line.  Way more than ANY pike is going to run away with!

[Largemouth21]

3 hours ago, Fishinthefish said:

Unfortunately it's a Limited Edition Size 40. sorry:( pretty sure that's not what u want 

3 hours ago, Jeff H said:I fish waters that have pike in them every time I'm out.  I have quite a bunch of spinning reels, most of which are 2500 size Daiwa Exceler's and spooled with 6 or 8lb line.  They can handle any pike that swims even if the line can't.  I also have a pair of 3000 size Daiwa Exceler's that I use with heavier line (10lb Trilene XT) for skipping docks and throwing senko's in dirty water.  There is no question that the larger spool of the 3000 handles heavier line better, but a 2500 will handle 8lb very well.  The 3000 has a spool capacity of 240 yds of 8lb, 200 yds of 10...that's a LOT of line.  Way more than ANY pike is going to run away with!

Any problems with line coiling up/ memory  on the 2500? 

I've heard that the small reels will coil up the line and cause memory I know all reels will have some line coiling/memory but is there a lot with 8 pound mono on the 2500?

[Jeff H]

1 hour ago, Largemouth21 said:

 

Any problems with line coiling up/ memory  on the 2500? 

I've heard that the small reels will coil up the line and cause memory I know all reels will have some line coiling/memory but is there a lot with 8 pound mono on the 2500?

 

Consider that I use Trilene XT, which is fairly stiff line and known for it's "memory".  I have zero problems with 8lb XT on my 2500's.  The time it's at it's worst is in cold temps.  XT gets real stiff in colder temps.

 

I have 1-2000 size and 1-1500 size that I use 6lb XT on.  8lb doesn't work that well on those 2 reels, the 2500 is the better and proper choice.

 

The good thing about your choice of the 3000 is you can run a little heavier line if you ever decide you want to.