HardCider Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 according to a news story, bass fisherman Oscar Garza was murdered on Falcon Lake Tuesday night. His fishing partner is still under medical care for hypothermia suffered when he bailed from the bass boat to avoid a hail of bullets. He is not the first American to be murdered on Falcon Lake. David Hartley was murdered by Los Zetas gang members in 2010 while jet skiing with his wife. Please keep Mr. Garza's family and friends in your prayers. Please be careful if you are on lakes that border Mexico. I am not aware of any similar situation on the U.S./Canadian border lakes. http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/12/08/texas-fisherman-murdered-border-lake-police-say/ Quote
Super User N Florida Mike Posted December 8, 2016 Super User Posted December 8, 2016 I used to fish any remote lake without a second thought.I usually had a gun anyway,but not due to worrying about danger from people.In the last 15 years I've always carried.Sad story,and sad that things have gotten this way.God bless their families. 7 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 8, 2016 Super User Posted December 8, 2016 Here's a similar story from San Antonio newspaper: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Man-killed-while-fishing-on-border-lake-10781308.php Quote
Super User Scott F Posted December 8, 2016 Super User Posted December 8, 2016 1 hour ago, N Florida Mike said: I used to fish any remote lake without a second thought.I usually had a gun anyway,but not due to worrying about danger from people.In the last 15 years I've always carried.Sad story,and sad that things have gotten this way.God bless their families. If I thought I needed to carry a gun to go fishing, I'd never fish again. 5 Quote
Super User geo g Posted December 8, 2016 Super User Posted December 8, 2016 Very sad, two guys just trying to enjoy the sport they love. Not worth the risk, hard to return fire from a boat even if your loaded. 1 Quote
jr231 Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Man that's horrible.. I'll sleep better at night knowing they'll get what they have coming to them. The story about the husband and wife on the jet ski. Dude.. it's like you can't do anything anymore. Makes me sick knowing I'm trying to teach a little girl how to live in this world.. 1 Quote
Bassinohio Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 very sad. at least they died doing what they loved. Quote
jr231 Posted December 9, 2016 Posted December 9, 2016 47 minutes ago, Bassinohio said: very sad. at least they died doing what they loved. I think the only " at least" to be said about this situation is that one lived. Quote
Smokinal Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 I fished Falcon a few years ago for 5 days with a guide. I'll be honest with you, I thought about things like that the whole time. When we were waiting at the airport to fly back, I struck up some convo with a local female officer and told here why we were there. She literally said, "You fished Falcon!? And nothing happened to you?!" She told us of many other stories that could have ended really bad that never reach the public. One such story she told was a boat approached a guy in a bass boat and told him he had to board their boat, he was under investigation. This boat was lettered up and men were in official looking uniforms. Well the guy in the bass boat started to climb onto their boat when he noticed some misspelled words on their boat or uniforms. He shot back into his boat and took off; reported it and found there was no US boat in the area. They would have found his head if they found anything at all. Not sure I would go there again. 1 Quote
Super User Raul Posted December 11, 2016 Super User Posted December 11, 2016 We owe to drug addicts and their providers such wonderful vacation spots. Quote
Super User Gundog Posted December 11, 2016 Super User Posted December 11, 2016 Unfortunately the grip of drugs extends far beyond the border. There are certain spots here in Pennsylvania that I can't fish at late in the evening or night because of drug addicts and their night time activities. Its sad for that angler, his family and all the other fisherman who have lost their lives unnecessarily by being in the line of fire of a drug war. 1 Quote
Ohio Archer Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 Sounds like there needs to be some E&E at your PA boat ramps. Eviction and Eradication. We keep letting these damned drug dealers have their way and they no longer have any fear. Nothing but a bunch of useless animals. Flush them all. 4 Quote
RHuff Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 West Virginia leads the Nation in prescription drug abuse and overdoses. It is so bad now the state legislature legalized open and concealed carry so citizens can protect themselves and their families. I never step out of my truck without my gun and its in my hand when I walk from the dock to my truck after dark or before daylight. 3 Quote
Airman4754 Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 The only time I carry is from the ramp to my boat and back. There are some shady characters at boat ramps. 1 Quote
Ohio Archer Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Not bad around here. Plenty of other places to go. Big problem here is heroin users OD'ing while driving. They can't wait so they shot up while behind the wheel. Then our LEOs NarCan the a-holes so they can go right back to doing it again. Incredible! Quote
Super User Catt Posted December 14, 2016 Super User Posted December 14, 2016 Cocked, locked, & ready to rock! 10 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted December 14, 2016 Super User Posted December 14, 2016 Very little in the way of riff raff up here. Make no mistake there's crazies but from the sounds of some of the response above, it's a different deal here. Mostly some seasonal freaks that can't hang with the sub-zero temps (still hard to call that beneficial). Most every outdoors person in this area is suitably equipped to address whatever situation that may arise "in the field". Seems to encourage somewhat respectable behavior - between the humans at least. Of perhaps more concern to me revolves around whether or not Yogi's Mom might be near the ramp - especially at night. It's only happened once, and that was enough. A-Jay 4 Quote
Bass Turd Posted December 14, 2016 Posted December 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Catt said: Cocked, locked, & ready to rock! The .45 in the top picture isn't cocked or locked... just sayin... Might be important in case of an emergency... 2 Quote
Ray K Posted December 14, 2016 Posted December 14, 2016 5 hours ago, Catt said: Cocked, locked, & ready to rock! Looks like you are properly protected. Just want to correct something you said in your post, though. That Colt 1911 in the holster is neither cocked nor locked. Is this the way you leave it in? Is there a round in the chamber? 2 Quote
Super User Catt Posted December 14, 2016 Super User Posted December 14, 2016 4 hours ago, Bass Turd said: The .45 in the top picture isn't cocked or locked... just sayin... Might be important in case of an emergency... 19 minutes ago, Ray K said: Looks like you are properly protected. Just want to correct something you said in your post, though. That Colt 1911 in the holster is neither cocked nor locked. Is this the way you leave it in? Is there a round in the chamber? Silly boys! The gun ain't the weapon 3 Quote
Super User Raul Posted December 14, 2016 Super User Posted December 14, 2016 On 8/12/2016 at 0:10 PM, HardCider said: according to a news story, bass fisherman Oscar Garza was murdered on Falcon Lake Tuesday night. His fishing partner is still under medical care for hypothermia suffered when he bailed from the bass boat to avoid a hail of bullets. He is not the first American to be murdered on Falcon Lake. David Hartley was murdered by Los Zetas gang members in 2010 while jet skiing with his wife. Please keep Mr. Garza's family and friends in your prayers. Please be careful if you are on lakes that border Mexico. I am not aware of any similar situation on the U.S./Canadian border lakes. http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/12/08/texas-fisherman-murdered-border-lake-police-say/ Don't be silly or play ignorant please, since when Canada is a world leader in the production of crystal meth or pot or serves as the most important route for cocaine trafficking into the US ? 2 Quote
jr231 Posted December 14, 2016 Posted December 14, 2016 I just don't see why you'd kill a couple fisherman.. even if they thought it was "their turf" .. I'd be less shocked if it was authority of some sort.. But fisherman ? There's a special place in h.ell for people who do things like this. 2 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 14, 2016 Super User Posted December 14, 2016 34 minutes ago, Raul said: Don't be silly or play ignorant please, since when Canada is a world leader in the production of crystal meth or pot or serves as the most important route for cocaine trafficking into the US ? Judging by the number of border patrol boats, trucks, and the constant presence on Lake Ontario, along with the various sheriff, Coast Guard, and other agency boats, I'd say there's a reason to be cautious. 3 Quote
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