Is it Possible.

[BrackishBassin]

2 hours ago, Yeajray231 said:

Easily ? I don't know what the exact criteria is.. I wouldn't be that proud of a record like that anyway.. Like playing poker seeing your cards. 

I guess it would be neat though. Go ahead and start doin that. I'll buy a couple ten pounders off ya and put em in my local fishin holes. 

 

Maybe easily isn't how I should have described it, but it could be done. You need to have the time and resources to do it, neither of which I have.

I spent a year working for Maryland growing oysters as part of the Bay restoration program. We selectively bred for size, growth rate, and disease resistance. We didn't use any chemicals and/or attempt any sort of genetic modification because all the oysters were seeded in the Bay. I'm willing to bet that we could have grown some massive oysters if we had.

But all that aside, I was really just curious if there were restrictions on the world records or not. 

[jr231]

17 minutes ago, BrackishBassin said:

Maybe easily isn't how I should have described it, but it could be done. You need to have the time and resources to do it, neither of which I have.

I spent a year working for Maryland growing oysters as part of the Bay restoration program. We selectively bred for size, growth rate, and disease resistance. We didn't use any chemicals and/or attempt any sort of genetic modification because all the oysters were seeded in the Bay. I'm willing to bet that we could have grown some massive oysters if we had.

But all that aside, I was really just curious if there were restrictions on the world records or not. 

That's interesting..  I'm not sure though. Maybe someone who is sure will chime in

[WRB]

47 minutes ago, Yeajray231 said:

That's interesting..  I'm not sure though. Maybe someone who is sure will chime in

There are a few trophy private bass fisheries in Texas that are currently trying to raise a world record bass. The only restriction I know if is the bass must be caught legally using IGFA approved tackle.

Tom

 

[everythingthatswims]

5 hours ago, WRB said:

The Kurita world record LMB was caught in July 2009 and the last giant bass reported from Japan. I doubt if Lake Biwa will produce another 20 lb class LMB.

There is always the possibly that California could produce another 22+ lb LMB.

Tom

Why do you doubt it?

[BassObsessed]

I know they consider bass an invasive species there but still has potential to put out a monster.

["hamma"]

  I believe that the world record "can" be broken. But, its going to take the moon, stars, and planets to line up. lol,.... No really, I do think there is a bass out there swimming around even bigger than the current record. And maybe someday a trophy hunter with the right IGFA gear will haul it in. But,... its going to take some due diligence, perfect timing, and a whole lot of luck.

  What stinks is that you "have to" adhere to the IGFA requirements to do so. Some day a good ole' boy is going to hook one on his favorite rod, and get ripped of the record because his favorite rod doesnt qualify. And that right there makes it even harder to "break" records in fishing.

 I have a question for you guys.,.... do you have IGFA qualifying gear? Do you know what gear qualifies?

 I know that a quick check on google would answer my questions, but my point is.,... do you, would you? Within bass fishing many lures will hook a pig, and to own all IGFA gear to throw those lures may actually hinder the lures effectiveness. Therefore, producing a situation that may negate the hit to begin with.

    The truly big girls are smarter than the average bass, they've been around the block so to speak, and seem to possess exceptional awareness.  I know many of you may disagree, and Im ok with that. but I believe this as Ive seen some huge bass in my time and they all have one thing in common, they demand the due respect the top predator would,. You really have to put a effort forth to fool them

   ..I offer them some techniques that possess alot of stealth, using lures that mimic the waters primary, or predominate forage, smothered in that forages scent, with proper boat position, lure presentation,.and above all tons of patience. And Im still  no pro at it by any means, just a angler that puts forth these efforts, to put "any" fish in the boat. Ive caught some pigs, even some exceptionally impressive fish for this area in my time. BUT,... I have had the fortunate opportunity to live near what I believe the best waters for big bass around here. Add in that most of my bass fishing was at first from a canoe, then a small basshunter, providing the "stealth" aspect quite well. So, my options all kinda added up to my sucesses.

 Many of you reading this, live down south of me, and in areas that have produced some bass close to or threatening the world record. Have you considered a IGFA rod/reel/line to chase down a record fish? And if you even would consider it, would you fish it exclusively? Get my point now?

 A fish may be out there to topple the current record, but will it qualify is the question. I imagine many waters are capable to produce a new record, it will take the right stuff to do so, and in the right "cycle" of said lakes life. But will it happen? im not sure. I am sure however that when im done in a few minutes here today, Im going to google the IGFA requirements for such a records demise

 Is it possible? sure its possible, but will it happen is the tougher question

[jr231]

You're telling me you're allowed to use live bait but there are certain rod restrictions? Lol makes no sense..  @"hamma" 

[deaknh03]

14 minutes ago, Yeajray231 said:

You're telling me you're allowed to use live bait but there are certain rod restrictions? Lol makes no sense..  @"hamma" 

go on the igfa site..it's such a scam.

["hamma"]

Ok I just got off the igfa site, and it seems that they have changed their rules since the last I checked, (probably 35 years ago)  Back then you needed a igfa certified rod, reel, line, blah, blah, blah etc,......

 Nowadays, no wire lines, 20lb test is the line class on largemouth, and rods with a shorter than 27 inch butt (from reel seats center to rods butt), and tips longer than 44 inches, meaning its length from center of reels seat to tip. And, no electric or powered reels.

 So I guess most of us are compliant as is, I dont use more than 20 lb test, I tried a 25 lb test power pro for frogging but gave up on it, and reverted right back to 14 lb test mono. The 27 inch butt section thing I will have to measure some of my rods but I think they arent that long., and there are some requirements about assistance during the fight, but I catch my fish myself and usually lip them myself ,...so im good to go,... how about you? does your line even braid exceed 20 lb test?

I know some like the thicker braids to help with braid burying itself in the spool, and backlashes

 So,...keep under 20 lb test, catch it yourself, and  fish with rods that have a butt section no longer than 27 inches, and you too can qualify!

 There ya go yeajray! good luck buddy

[WRB]

11 hours ago, everythingthatswims said:

Why do you doubt it?

My name is Thomas!

I doubt the Perry bass, no objective proof. The only witness vanished, no photos*, the weight was reported to be a 100 lb postal scale of unkonwn accuracy in 1/4 lb increments and the bass was never examined, it was eaten during the depression era.

I doubt the actual weight of Bob Crupi 22.01 lb bass, the bass was never examined for added weights, 1 photo** without measurements and no witness of the catch.

Dottie was the only 22+lb LMB caught in California, not officially weighed or examined, lots of witnesses that said th bass was snagged. I have no doubt she weighed well over 22 lbs., more than likely 25 lbs reported. If Dottie was caught in Texas or Florida where they don't have a snagging law, she would be the World Record Bass.

4 LMB caught that exceed 22 lbs in the history of bass fishing, 2 of those very questionable.

It's possible and hope it is caught in California.

Tom

* 1 photo showed up a few years ago of a big bass held by an unknown man and a boy on a sunny day somewhere with palm trees. Perry stated it was a rainy day, to wet to work the farm and night when he got home to weigh the bass.

** 1 photo of Crupi taking the bass out of his livewell, no measurement ever offered creates doubt. The reason I was given that my 19.3 lb LMB can't be validated is no photo of the bass with measurements. I had  a witness, accurate weight, a photo holding the bass before it  was released, so I gave up. It's difficult, if not impossible to authenticate any record size bass that is released due to so many false attempts to break records.

 

 

[everythingthatswims]

47 minutes ago, WRB said:

My name is Thomas!

I doubt the Perry bass, no objective proof. The only witness vanished, no photos*, the weight was reported to be a 100 lb postal scale of unkonwn accuracy in 1/4 lb increments and the bass was never examined, it was eaten during the depression era.

I doubt the actual weight of Bob Crupi 22.01 lb bass, the bass was never examined for added weights, 1 photo** without measurements and no witness of the catch.

Dottie was the only 22+lb LMB caught in California, not officially weighed or examined, lots of witnesses that said th bass was snagged. I have no doubt she weighed well over 22 lbs., more than likely 25 lbs reported. If Dottie was caught in Texas or Florida where they don't have a snagging law, she would be the World Record Bass.

4 LMB caught that exceed 22 lbs in the history of bass fishing, 2 of those very questionable.

It's possible and hope it is caught in California.

Tom

* 1 photo showed up a few years ago of a big bass held by an unknown man and a boy on a sunny day somewhere with palm trees. Perry stated it was a rainy day, to wet to work the farm and night when he got home to weigh the bass.

** 1 photo of Crupi taking the bass out of his livewell, no measurement ever offered creates doubt. The reason I was given that my 19.3 lb LMB can't be validated is no photo of the bass with measurements. I had  a witness, accurate weight, a photo holding the bass before it  was released, so I gave up. It's difficult, if not impossible to authenticate any record size bass that is released due to so many false attempts to break records.

 

 

I meant why do you doubt that another 20+ will come from Japan, I know nothing about it, I'm just curious. That is interesting about how big of a grey area fish that size fall into when it comes to making things official.

[The Bassman]

Does anyone remember the Junior Samples scandel in the  60's when he tried to pass off a salt water grouper as a new record LM?

[MBB Nate]

It will happen, all records are broken eventually.  There are probably a lot more 20 lb bass than we think there are.  It wouldn't really surprise me if there is a 30 lber out there somewhere.

 

[WRB]

It's been over 7 years since Biwa produced the world record bass and no Giants have been caught since that time in Japan. It could be because it's against Japanise fishing regulations to release any live bass back into their  lakes, they are considered a invasive species.

LMB don't grow long enough ( over 30") to exceed 25 lbs and only 1 in modern history was that heavy.

Tom

[Fisher-O-men]

22 hours ago, BrackishBassin said:

Question - are there rules governing where the fish is caught, meaning the body of water? I'm relatively new to freshwater, so I'm just curious. I mean, it would be theoretically possible for me to build a pond on my property, stock it with fish, and feed the hell out of them until they were world record size. Then 'catch one' and bam, I have the record.

 

Takes more that ample food to grow a fish that big.  Genetics plays a huge role.

[OCdockskipper]

29 minutes ago, WRB said:

LMB don't grow long enough ( over 30") to exceed 25 lbs and only 1 in modern history was that heavy.

Tom

That is a point that is often overlooked.  I happened to look at a list of the heaviest bass caught in Texas and all of these over 15lb fish were in the 24" - 27" length range.  Having caught a couple of 8 lb fish that were also 24" long (and were not skinny), it really drives home the point on genetics where the really large fish grow wider & taller once they pass that 2 ft. length mark.

[WRB]

Search "Building the world record bass" article in 2014 Bassmaster mag.

All you need to know about growing your own record bass, it hasn't happened so far.

Tom

["hamma"]

Ok ,..Ok,...put the miracle grow and steroids away now, and Frankenfish aren't going to qualify either,...lol

 I urge you to check out the igfa site and read up on it, there's some photo, and measurement requirements that may benefit some, as you guys actually fish these lakes that "may" have the next record in it. Im pretty sure the next "world" record isnt up here in New England, I can hunt to beat my states record, or any other NE lakes I fish,(doubtful but ya never know) and as my meds are quite strong I will need to check into regs here and ensure I follow the requirements, whether they mirror igfa or not. But I digress,...

 You, yes you.,.... Not to pressure you but,...only you can prevent forest fires, shoot thats Smokey's deal,...lemmie try that again.

 You actually may have a shot at it, Do you fish Cali?,...Texas?, Fla? Georgia? Alabama?.. any other major lake that produces double digits? Catt? Tom? and all you other fortunate anglers that fish these waters

  Do you potentially have what it takes?, Fish with 20 lb test or lighter lines?, I know many of you have "what it takes" and fish these "potential" lakes. for the love of god guys!,..check out the regulations/requirements,... I did, and they seem to be alot more lenient as they used to be, you may already be compliant, or just have to adjust a slight bit. Wouldn't it be at least worth it to check it out? segway to rob schnieder in "the water boy",..... "you can do it!",.... lol

 How would you feel if you landed the monster bass of all time and got screwed out of the record due to a "requirement",... I know I'd feel bad for ya, I'm sure previously potential record breakers that fell short are re-thinking their actions, and wishing that they didnt fall short.

 Technology being what it is these days, do you bring a smartphone with you on the boat? go pro? tape measure, have a livewell? a certified weight station closeby? see where im going with this?

 Not only ,...lol "you can do it",...you just might,,.... and trust me,..I'd be right there congratulating you for it.

 Id much rather want to shake your hand,...then to give ya a (nelson from The Simpsons) "Hehh heeahhh!",....LOL,... like I stated above, "only you can prevent forest fires"

[Raul]

17 hours ago, Fisher-O-men said:

Takes more that ample food to grow a fish that big.  Genetics plays a huge role.

And environment.

There will be no WR record bass coming out Florida, why ? Cuz there are gators, there will be no WR bass coming out of Cuba, why ? Cuz in Cuba is all CATCH & KEEP, the only way you could find a WR bass in Mexico is if it came out of a brand, spankin almost unknown new lake along the coast thas was stocked eight or ten years before with Florida strain bass, because once known EVERYBODY is going to fish it and 90% of the anglers are "Cuban" ( catch and keep even the fingerlings ), Mexico's record is a little over 19 lbs out of Bacurato and that was ages ago, yes, there are a lot of big bass in Mex but a WR, nope. 

But there are other countries, South Africa for example.

[jr231]

Sickening to think about all the DD's crunched by gators. 

[TnRiver46]

6 hours ago, Yeajray231 said:

Sickening to think about all the DD's crunched by gators. 

I don't know, alligators taste pretty declicous. I support them eating anything with the exception of pets or people so I can, in turn, eat them hahahah 

[WRB]

Knowing IGFA rules for record fish is the easy part. Today almost everyone has a camera with them as part of their phone, easy to record the fish. My certified scale also has a measurement scale which is helpful. The potential world record LMB, not a line class, will need to be examined by a official biologist or fishery person, you need to have the phone number handy.

What you need to except is the bass will die as a result of being validated. 

Back in the 90's when Castiac was at it's highest potential to produce a world record bass,  Bassin mag also had a million dollar prize offered. It's hard to imagine the chaos this hype caused with boats from all over the country descending on this small lake. It's also hard to fathom that Castaic lake marina didn't have a certified scale or a camera available to validate a catch. It was during this time period that I caught my PB.

Tom

[Wayne P.]

What about the lake in Honduras that had bass in the 30# class that were captured spear fishing and there was an underwater video of some of them? Glen Lau may have been the one that did the video. I think the lake is Yojoa 

[WRB]

50 minutes ago, Wayne P. said:

What about the lake in Honduras that had bass in the 30# class that were captured spear fishing and there was an underwater video of some of them? Glen Lau may have been the one that did the video. I think the lake is Yojoa 

Monte Burks book Sow Belly I believe has a chapter on Cuba and Honduras, need to dig it out and read it again.

Tom

[Big Bait Fishing]

On ‎12‎/‎2‎/‎2016 at 7:23 PM, WRB said:

There are a few trophy private bass fisheries in Texas that are currently trying to raise a world record bass. The only restriction I know if is the bass must be caught legally using IGFA approved tackle.

Tom

 

why not the '' all tackle record '' ?? seems you could use whatever line , Manu used 25 lb. Toray Super Hard Strong flouro