Knightiac Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 The last year and a half have been huge for me. I'm finally starting to get into hard baits like spooks and lipless crankbaits and they produced pretty well for me. For topwater, I'm pretty much always throwing a frog or a spook, but I've got a buddy who only throws poppers. My question to yall, is when do you prefer to throw a popper and same goes for a spook? Why would you throw one over the other? I've read answers to this on many other forums and much like every fisherman's opinion, all of the answers were different. Curious what yall thought. Quote
Yakalong Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 I have found both are very effective. As to when one is better than the other I haven't figured that out yet. This past summer one evening I was throwing a popper and my brother was throwing a spook. He was tearing them up. So I switched and caught quite as few as well. The next night same conditions, except it was the popper that was working great. So I really can't say when to throw which one first, I usually will start with the popper but have no problems switching. 2 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted December 1, 2016 Super User Posted December 1, 2016 I know how to walk baits but I have had such bad experiences with Spook type lures , bass missing the bait , that I rarely use them . I choose poppers or I like to call them "Chuggers" on windy days . Those big sized ones that make a lot of noise and throw water six feet . One year I dedicated a part of each day to top water fishing , no matter what the conditions . I used every top water bait I had . The one bait that stood out was the old Dalton Special . Bass loved that thing . It walked a little bit but I wouldnt classify it as a true walking bait . I dont know what happened to that lure and have yet to replace it . Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 1, 2016 Global Moderator Posted December 1, 2016 Poppers are for fishing targets, walkers are for fishing areas. just a very simplistic breakdown of how I choose one over the other. 8 Quote
Scarborough817 Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 for me poppers are fished when the water is a little more choppy and for a specific target, spooks are for calm water and for searching an area 3 Quote
"hamma" Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 31 minutes ago, Scarborough817 said: for me poppers are fished when the water is a little more choppy and for a specific target, spooks are for calm water and for searching an area This is the criteria that I've learned for this question, laydowned surface = walkers,... slight chop = poppers,.. even more chop = prop baits. Ive targeted some boulders up here with a spook, with great results, so its the surface conditions that I follow 2 Quote
Super User Raul Posted December 1, 2016 Super User Posted December 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Bluebasser86 said: Poppers are for fishing targets, walkers are for fishing areas. just a very simplistic breakdown of how I choose one over the other. ^^^^ simplicity is perfection. Quote
Super User Spankey Posted December 1, 2016 Super User Posted December 1, 2016 I find myself fishing poppers more often because I have more confidence in them. I doubt my abilities sometime walking a bait perfectly. But I have confidence with a prop type bait. 1 Quote
hunterPRO1 Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 prop baits have never been to great of a producer for me personally, poppers were the first topwater bait i learned to fish. walking baits are the last one i learned, as to where i throw them poppers for targets walking baits to cover more water as said above. Quote
SFL BassHunter Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 I like them both! Usually what dictates which I use depends on water conditions. Popper = Calm, Choppy or Very Stained... Walking Lure= Calm water 1 Quote
Scarborough817 Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Spankey said: I find myself fishing poppers more often because I have more confidence in them. I doubt my abilities sometime walking a bait perfectly. But I have confidence with a prop type bait. while there is a rhythm to walking baits sometimes i think it's the little change or imperfection in the walking that trigger bass to strike also not to bring another question into this but for those wondering what to throw when trying to cover an area when the water is choppy i throw a buzzbait Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted December 1, 2016 Super User Posted December 1, 2016 The first time I ever used a Spook, the classic one, not any variation, I caught 5 fish on 5 casts and the 6th broke off. I didn't have another one so I tied on a Pop R and didn't get another bite. I think a Spook is a good search bait. It hits the water like a brick so you probably don't want to cast it at targets. As mentioned above, poppers are a little more spot specific. So I really don't know what it is that would make fish differentiate. A Spook is a quieter bait, so I think it needs to be calmer for fish to locate. A Pop R will sit in place longer if you want to make shorter or less frequent pops with it. However, I have two Spook, Jr's now with knockers and one has a chugging face. I think it helps draw fish from distance. Sometimes, when i really think I'll be getting some topwater action I'll tie a Spook on one rod, a Pop R on another and a Frog on yet another. Or I might use a buzzbait or a Chug Bug instead of one of these. That way the fish can tell you. If you are with another fisherman, don't be using the same bait as he is until you're sure fish want it more. And vice versa. The Chug'n Spook, Jr and the Chug Bug are hybrids of these two baits. Quote
Super User Paul Roberts Posted December 1, 2016 Super User Posted December 1, 2016 Ditto Bluebasser's description. Then there are walking poppers. All you need is a dished face and an elongated body. The Chug Bug is one. I will choose one when there's a little chop on the water. On flatter surfaces I like those quieter, more slippery walkers. Quote
Super User Spankey Posted December 1, 2016 Super User Posted December 1, 2016 I think that's what my youngest uses when running with kids and adults with disabilities in her cart. Marathon type stuff. Hers is great, nice photo quality. Quote
Hogsticker Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 In reference to bank fishing, I'll use a walking bait when covering water in front of me, and a popper when paralleling the shore line. And then there's the all mighty glide bait. Quote
Bassfishnc18 Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 I prefer fishing poppers around docks and stumps while I prefer spooks by weeds and bull rushes. I.e. poppers around hard cover and spooks around softer cover Quote
wdp Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 I let the conditions dictate which I use. On calmer days, I'll use both a spook style walking bait and a popper. But, with the popper I've learned to walk the dog with it too. It's a much more subtle action than ripping & chugging the bait - and it doesn't track left & right near as much as a spook. The Rapala Skitter Pop works great on calm days. Now if it's windy, I work a popper more aggressively with a chugging & true popping sound. Or, I'll fish a buzz frog - horny toad or ribbit. 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted December 2, 2016 Super User Posted December 2, 2016 10 hours ago, wdp said: I let the conditions dictate which I use. On calmer days, I'll use both a spook style walking bait and a popper. But, with the popper I've learned to walk the dog with it too. It's a much more subtle action than ripping & chugging the bait - and it doesn't track left & right near as much as a spook. The Rapala Skitter Pop works great on calm days. Now if it's windy, I work a popper more aggressively with a chugging & true popping sound. Or, I'll fish a buzz frog - horny toad or ribbit. Whats the noisiest chugger you found ? I have a vintage black Pico Pop and an old large Rebel chugger about twice the size of a Pop R but same design . On windy days I make as much racket as I can around submerged timber .Jerk it hard and abrupt to get as much distance with the spray as possible and not move the lure much . Its a good technique for suffocating hot summer days , mid day , sun bearing down . I cant fish in those super high temps anymore but I sure miss this action . 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 2, 2016 Super User Posted December 2, 2016 You could try a walking popper, like the PopMax. Was my most productive hard bait two years running. 1 Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted December 2, 2016 Super User Posted December 2, 2016 24 minutes ago, J Francho said: You could try a walking popper, like the PopMax. Was my most productive hard bait two years running. Always my first choice. Quote
wdp Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 1 hour ago, scaleface said: Whats the noisiest chugger you found ? I have a vintage black Pico Pop and an old large Rebel chugger about twice the size of a Pop R but same design . On windy days I make as much racket as I can around submerged timber .Jerk it hard and abrupt to get as much distance with the spray as possible and not move the lure much . Its a good technique for suffocating hot summer days , mid day , sun bearing down . I cant fish in those super high temps anymore but I sure miss this action . Lately, I've been using a SK KVD splash. It's pretty noisy, but more of a splashy/spitting noise. Comes with good stock hooks too. Other than it & the Rapala skitter pop, I use old fashioned Rebel Pop R. It's got that distinct cork popping noise. But also has terrible hooks that I'll replace. 1 Quote
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