Gillroid 9000 Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 It was about a year ago when i joined a small Bass club. I met a guy named ##### which he acted as my guide during my beginner times. He was one good fishing buddy until he changed. He slowly became aggresive to other anglers and i decided that i need to leave him. I struggle so much finding a good fishing buddy that wont betray me or loose contact with me. And i have other anglers which hassles me over my gear and my ways of fishing. Bass fishing can get so upsetting and sad. I get put down by Superior,bad people so much that it drives me mad. Or make me just give up. I really loathe anglers like those.^^^ At least i have some good people with me. and i have a Waaaay better fishing buddy. He is dat typical rich guy in the group and glad hes not a spoiled angler calling your gear #@$%, thinking he is the most superior angler,buying or always recomending the most expensive i can only dream about and overall being someone nobody likes. He seems to be wise about his spending and his gear is not insanely expensive and also he seems to kinda admire me despite the fact that he already went into state tournaments twice and doing Okay there. Also with my Boy Scouts most of my troop mates respect me genuinely, likes me for teaching them how to catch bass and helping out new or inexperienced anglers and also Catching Bass easily :p. Looks like theres something that makes a Good angler, not just having expensive high tech gear or winning big tournaments like Bassmasters,FLW and getting sponsored by BIIIIIIG companies. Everyone has their own special qualities that makes them a good angler and makes you unique. Go out and fish, ignore what others tell you, Stick with the best people you can find, Help out other anglers and Just fish.
Super User Choporoz Posted November 30, 2016 Super User Posted November 30, 2016 9 minutes ago, Forager said: Go out and fish, ignore what others tell you, There are some who might struggle with this part, but I agree that it is good advice, doc 1
Super User WRB Posted November 30, 2016 Super User Posted November 30, 2016 When I would golf with my parents and brother years ago they would tell to cool it you are not good enough to be angry with this game. Being extremely competitive their advice only angered me more until I finally figured they were right. My advice is cool it, you are not good enough to be angry with bass fishing, enjoy your time on the water it's limited. Tom 1
jr231 Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 I only help those who are deserving. And I promise everybody is not deserving. . Here is an example. About 5 years ago is when I came upon the use of the senko.. well I had a few fishing holes and brought a buddy with me on the regular.. on one particular summer day we were using the same things hula grubs, crank baits, frogs, t rigged worms... and not catching anything. Well I had read about the wacky senko and decided to try it in a last minute effort. I started catching every cast.. I caught about 10+ bass before I started to feel guilty about having fun. So I helped him out. Gave him the hook. And the senkos... long story short he caught a bass that was 23" and easily 6-7 but probably 7+ (very impressive bass for ohio) He took off running with the bass back to the truck to take pictures and it was over 75 yards away.. had it out of the water for 10 minutes easy. I was so pis.sed I could have strangled him. To make matters worse he posted pictures on Facebook and showed everyone at the bar about how he caught this huge bass like he was some master angler and told em all how he did it. i never took him fishing again. Punk. 2 hours ago, WRB said: When I would golf with my parents and brother years ago they would tell to cool it you are not good enough to be angry with this game. Being extremely competitive their advice only angered me more until I finally figured they were right. My advice is cool it, you are not good enough to be angry with bass fishing, enjoy your time on the water it's limited. Tom Tom he was upset cuz someone he fished with was putting him down ? Who in their right mind wouldn't be bothered by that. Nobody needs that.. I agree you should have fun , even if that means fishing by yourself. 1
Gillroid 9000 Posted November 30, 2016 Author Posted November 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Yeajray231 said: I only help those who are deserving. And I promise everybody is not deserving. . Here is an example. About 5 years ago is when I came upon the use of the senko.. well I had a few fishing holes and brought a buddy with me on the regular.. on one particular summer day we were using the same things hula grubs, crank baits, frogs, t rigged worms... and not catching anything. Well I had read about the wacky senko and decided to try it in a last minute effort. I started catching every cast.. I caught about 10+ bass before I started to feel guilty about having fun. So I helped him out. Gave him the hook. And the senkos... long story short he caught a bass that was 23" and easily 6-7 but probably 7+ (very impressive bass for ohio) He took off running with the bass back to the truck to take pictures and it was over 75 yards away.. had it out of the water for 10 minutes easy. I was so pis.sed I could have strangled him. To make matters worse he posted pictures on Facebook and showed everyone at the bar about how he caught this huge bass like he was some master angler and told em all how he did it. i never took him fishing again. Punk. That is true Some people do not deserve any help What so Ever. No matter the reasons. Those type of Anglers REALLY make me Disgusted, Irresponsible,Loudmouthed.I would just whack him With My rod or Push him into the Pond/Lake along with his Stuff and leave.... 1
Bass Turd Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 3 hours ago, Forager said: Go out and _____, ignore what others tell you, Stick with the best people you can find, Help out others and Just ____. Great advice you gave yourself. Insert anything worthwhile in life and follow it. 2
Super User A-Jay Posted November 30, 2016 Super User Posted November 30, 2016 57 minutes ago, Yeajray231 said: I only help those who are deserving. And I promise everybody is not deserving. . Here is an example. About 5 years ago is when I came upon the use of the senko.. well I had a few fishing holes and brought a buddy with me on the regular.. on one particular summer day we were using the same things hula grubs, crank baits, frogs, t rigged worms... and not catching anything. Well I had read about the wacky senko and decided to try it in a last minute effort. I started catching every cast.. I caught about 10+ bass before I started to feel guilty about having fun. So I helped him out. Gave him the hook. And the senkos... long story short he caught a bass that was 23" and easily 6-7 but probably 7+ (very impressive bass for ohio) He took off running with the bass back to the truck to take pictures and it was over 75 yards away.. had it out of the water for 10 minutes easy. I was so pis.sed I could have strangled him. To make matters worse he posted pictures on Facebook and showed everyone at the bar about how he caught this huge bass like he was some master angler and told em all how he did it. i never took him fishing again. Punk. OR - Here's another perspective of your experience. I help whoever I can, with in reason, especially those who show a genuine interest.. Here is an example. About 5 years ago is when I came upon the use of the senko. I had a few fishing holes and brought a buddy with me. One particular summer day we were using the same things, hula grubs, crank baits, frogs, t-rigged worms... and not catching anything. Well I had read about the wacky rigged senko and decided to try it in a last minute effort. I started catching every cast. I caught about 10+ bass before I started to feel guilty about having fun. So I helped him out. Gave him the hook and the senkos. Long story short, he caught a bass that was 23" and easily 6-7 lbs but probably 7+ (very impressive bass for ohio). He was so excited he took off running with the bass back to the truck to take pictures. You should have seen the smile on his face & heard the genuine excitement in his voice - it was awesome. Once we got home, he posted pictures on Facebook and showed everyone at the bar about how he caught this huge bass and how he did it. Unfortunately the truck was a ways back and the bass didn't make it. Later we talked about C & R and what we could have gone better to get some pictures but still insure that the big bass lived to grow & fight another day . It was cool knowing that I had played a small part in helping my buddy catch this big bass which seemed to really make his day. A-Jay 12
Super User Spankey Posted November 30, 2016 Super User Posted November 30, 2016 Yeajray231 hit it right on the head. "I agree you should have fun, even if that means fishing by yourself." Amen brother. I'll take my daughters, my grand kids or a guy who isn't even a fisherman who wants to experience it with me. In these situations its about them. Taking them. For them. When I'm bass fishing it not about messing around. I'm about catching bass.Or maybe I didn't fare to well. It's not about that for me. I'm at peace with myself. It's about those smallies and myself. I'm not thinking about anything else. Just what the creator provided. Don't need the drama, antics, BS. I have to deal with that all week. 4
jr231 Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 12 minutes ago, A-Jay said: OR - Here's another perspective of your experience. I help whoever I can, with in reason, especially those who show a genuine interest.. Here is an example. About 5 years ago is when I came upon the use of the senko. I had a few fishing holes and brought a buddy with me. One particular summer day we were using the same things, hula grubs, crank baits, frogs, t-rigged worms... and not catching anything. Well I had read about the wacky rigged senko and decided to try it in a last minute effort. I started catching every cast. I caught about 10+ bass before I started to feel guilty about having fun. So I helped him out. Gave him the hook and the senkos. Long story short, he caught a bass that was 23" and easily 6-7 lbs but probably 7+ (very impressive bass for ohio). He was so excited he took off running with the bass back to the truck to take pictures. You should have seen the smile on his face & heard the genuine excitement in his voice - it was awesome. Once we got home, he posted pictures on Facebook and showed everyone at the bar about how he caught this huge bass and how he did it. Unfortunately the truck was a ways back and the bass didn't make it. Later we talked about C & R and what we could have gone better to get some pictures but still insure that the big bass lived to grow & fight another day . It was cool knowing that I had played a small part in helping my buddy catch this big bass which seemed to really make his day. A-Jay Lol no.. I like ya A -jay but that's not how it went or how I felt at all. 2
Super User A-Jay Posted November 30, 2016 Super User Posted November 30, 2016 Just now, Yeajray231 said: Lol no.. I like ya A -jay but that's not how it went or how I felt at all. I could tell - and I can imagine how you felt too - I've been there. Sometimes cutting him loose is all we can do. A-Jay 1
jr231 Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, A-Jay said: I could tell - and I can imagine how you felt too - I've been there. Sometimes cutting him loose is all we can do. A-Jay To further elaborate why I was so bothered. This was a private farm pond. Just under 3 acres. I have special access to it because I did some favors for a neighbor (I put up a wire fence and helped him move ) And he granted me permission to fish this place as I please. Nobody fishes it. His brother built it, stocked it. And then passed away. It is about 15 years old (the pond) and the first season I fished it i had 25+ fish days easily. Some nice ones too. I have put many hours using a seine* in the creek and dumping creek chubs and crawfish into the pond. I take care of the place when the man is out of town. It's like it's my pond.. (even though it isn't). And when he caught that fish I knew it was the queen. And the way he treated it and acted about it after was more than enough for me to not take him fishing again.. btw she lived ? idk how because it felt like she was out of water for an eternity. I caught her this year and she was 24" and 8.2 lbs. I don't know how long she has left but I hope to see her next spring. 1
shimmy Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 It is frustrating being around snooty fisherman or people who act superior. One thing that bothers me are comments made towards fisherman with nice equipment. Why must they be insulted?? I never understand this. So they have a nice boat, yet there are always posts of people criticizing them and judging them for their "nice bass boat...and nice gear" and is usually followed by the person then stating that they outfish anglers with good gear, accusations of the person being stuck up, etc. So basically having nice gear means you must be judgmental towards people who do not and/or you must think you're a better fisherman than those in a Jon boat...the very thing you are accusing them of (being judgmental) is the very thing you are doing. Yeahjray231, I agree with people saying not to let it bother you AND I would be VERY upset if that happened to me!! Don't risk the life of my pets!! (even though it is not my pond...or my property...or my fish...but that is besides the point!) 3
bassguytom Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 I must be lucky. I fish and help people as much as I can. I've seen fisherman that are cranky and way to serious. Last time I checked none of them were pros. I just kind of laugh to myself and move on. For me Fishing is about way more then catching fish. It's about going out enjoying some of God's work and good company. About laughing and bonding with my sons. It's about trying to figure out the puzzle and concentration. It's about things that the guy who thinks he's better then you will never know. Don't feel sorry for them it's their choice. You just have fun and relax. Tight lines. 1
Global Moderator Mike L Posted December 1, 2016 Global Moderator Posted December 1, 2016 Listen...Noone is allowed to berate or belittle anyone for any reason.. It's just fishing for crying out loud.. Life is too short to be around people who has to make themselves feel superior by insulting and tearing other people down...Go find yourself another club and continue to help others who need it. I believe it will come back to you 10 fold Sorry for rambling a little but I just despise bully's, and that's what those folks are. Mike 3
Gillroid 9000 Posted December 1, 2016 Author Posted December 1, 2016 1 hour ago, shimmy said: It is frustrating being around snooty fisherman or people who act superior. One thing that bothers me are comments made towards fisherman with nice equipment. Why must they be insulted?? I never understand this. So they have a nice boat, yet there are always posts of people criticizing them and judging them for their "nice bass boat...and nice gear" and is usually followed by the person then stating that they outfish anglers with good gear, accusations of the person being stuck up, etc. So basically having nice gear means you must be judgmental towards people who do not and/or you must think you're a better fisherman than those in a Jon boat...the very thing you are accusing them of (being judgmental) is the very thing you are doing. Your are not understanding what i want to saw. PLEASE READ BEFORE SAYING THINGS! The problem here im not talking about is ALL FISHERMAN WITH GOOD GEAR ARE BAD and You are accusing me of being Biased about gear. The problem here is About Rude,Spoiled and Mean anglers which they Insult,Backtalk,Trash talk about you,Your skills,gears,Abilities and the size of the fish you catch. And i Did not only say about gear. I do not loathe about gear. The real thing that disgusts or hate is Anglers which Bullies you over Gear,Fishing techniques,Fishing skills,Your experience..
shimmy Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 7 hours ago, Forager said: "buying or always recomending the most expensive i can only dream about... He seems to be wise about his spending and his gear is not insanely expensive" "Looks like theres something that makes a Good angler, not just having expensive high tech gear...getting sponsored by BIIIIIIG companies." Stuff like this?
Gillroid 9000 Posted December 1, 2016 Author Posted December 1, 2016 11 minutes ago, shimmy said: Stuff like this? Please for gods sake ITS NOT ABOUT LOATHING PEOPLE WITH FANCY GEAR PLEASE READ ALL OF IT
shimmy Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 I did bud. Everyone already pretty much stated that we don't like snooty anglers and for you to stop loathing people.
Gillroid 9000 Posted December 1, 2016 Author Posted December 1, 2016 1 minute ago, shimmy said: I did bud. Everyone already pretty much stated that we don't like snooty anglers and for you to stop loathing people. You dont UNDERSTAND. THIS ISN'T ABOUT LOATHING JUST NORMAL PEOPLE. Its about Loathing(Disliking) Bad anglers like Anglers WHO uses there fancy gear to Insult or put down other anglers(I met so much of those type of people that it just makes me sick). I Met some good Anglers and Today one of my Troop mates which i taught him to fish and got him a Bass, He gave me a Megabass PopMax In Baby Bass Color along with a letter. Im trying to Make the point THAT THERE SOME CERTAIN SPECIAL QUALITIES THAT MAKES A ANGLER A Good angler. It may not be Big as Having a Fancy nice Boat,Rods reels lures, Having big sponsores or Winning Big tournaments but it is a some small kind of special quality that makes a good angler. And some anglers Tend to Ignore these Small qualities and Just focus on the big ones to make himself Look Like hes the best... ^^^^But at least i dont get to see the snooty anglers anymore... and i hope i dont meet one again... 9 minutes ago, shimmy said: and for you to stop loathing people. Loathing means Disliking or Feeling Disgusted about something or someone....
Super User Gundog Posted December 1, 2016 Super User Posted December 1, 2016 7 hours ago, Yeajray231 said: I agree you should have fun , even if that means fishing by yourself. Works for me. Some of the best days of fishing happened when I was by myself. 2
dwh4784 Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 I've only ever had comments directed toward me about how many rod/reels I bring. Until my fishing buddy spends a bunch of time re-rigging, then they tend to get it. If I can have three rigs to their one and not only spend more time casting but have presentations for specific targets, I'm happy with that program. 1
Turkey sandwich Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 I tend to be very friendly with other anglers, especially those with less experience. The more proficient you become at something, the further you feel from those starting out. There are a lot of things we learn over the years - courtesy, dealing with excitement, properly caring for fish, being conscientious of the environment/other anglers/boaters/swimmers/etc. The reason many of us have become "skilled" (let's let go of that ego, fellas) anglers is because others have invested their time, energy, and patience in us. Yes, some people just suck and will disregard these things, and they should be avoided, but as a general rule, I've found that my kindness has been returned more often than not. 4
frogflogger Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 Loathing - fishermen - hmm, for me the two aren't in the same sentence - I would probably do something else if I found myself "loathing" a bad fisherman.
"hamma" Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 If you were to fill a room with 100 anglers, although they are all anglers you are going to meet all types of people, good, bad, indifferent, etc. And therein lies the issue, we are all "People" first. and it takes all kinds to make the world go round. I am guilty of making statements about "well to do" anglers with the nice boat, expensive gear, etc. Not to bash all anglers that can afford all the gear. But to make a point about, "its not about what you can afford, but how you act as a person" Whether you are rich, poor, or just well off, isnt so much a status symbol when you are fishing. If you pollute, disrespect nature, run your inexperienced mouth to a true angler, cheat your friends, spot suck, beat up boats trying to skip a dock etc. you are going to stick out like a sore thumb. It just so happens that many "newer anglers" that have no experience fishing, can "afford" the gear, but not the attitude. A experienced angler, doesn't stand out in a negative manner on the water. New anglers to fishing, boating, the outdoors, do stand out, and some? negatively. And thats so notable to someone who has been fishing for their lifetime. The sport we all partake in is one of timetested abilities. Without those abilities? your time taking attributes at the ramp?, is going to frustrate experienced anglers, your actions on the water? is going to anger some experienced anglers, your discussions with a time tested angler? is going to raise some eyebrows. Do I loathe bad anglers as well? No,... they may not be my best friends, but I will "try" to educate before I "judge" them. And yes,.. I really do give them that leaway. As we all had to start somewhere. I will help anyone I can, as karma has a funny way. Its those anglers I try to assist that give me the finger, that gets my back facing them from that moment on. Many times over the years I've attempted to assist, and received a bad attitude in return,.. only to later see that same angler stuck at the ramp with a jacknived trailer, on the ramp!., or find them on a shoreline arguing with a homeowner that has a nice tear in their docked boats cover,, or tow them back to the ramp as their motor wont start,. or their lower unit has taken up residence on a rocky shaol.. etc, Again, they stick out like a sore thumb, so they will receive either some rhetoric, or assistance, depending on their attitude., Bad people are just that, Bad anglers? make us all look bad.,... so dont "loathe" them,..attempt to educate instead. Its how I navigate their antics.
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