Super User Wayne P. Posted November 28, 2016 Super User Posted November 28, 2016 22 hours ago, Yeajray231 said: I'm talking about the " super salt plus " . What is your preferred way of fishing these worms ? I know the unsalted ones float and are nice for the shakey head; but I'm having a hard time choosing this super salt plus when I'm out fishing. I like zoom I'm just trying to figure out when these would be the best choice.. and so far I haven't figured it out because I'm always reaching for a different worm.. Your indecision is based on myth. The salted or unsalted sink, neither float. Ones with a lot of oil on them will stay on the surface by themselves due to surface tension if placed gently, but will sink if submerged and will not return to the surface. The ones with the most salt will sink faster---that's it. Either does the same on a shakey head. It looks like the worm floats because of the lead weight and hook falls faster than plastic. Let it sit still and it will fall over. 3 Quote
Outdoor Zack Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 8 hours ago, Catt said: I like salt in my plastics, not on em! My #2 setup for 2016 Zoom's Finesse Worm in Gooseberry, 1/8 oz bullet weight, 2/0 straight shank hook. Why the straight shank hook over an round bend or EWG? Quote
Super User Catt Posted November 29, 2016 Super User Posted November 29, 2016 8 hours ago, Outdoor Zack said: Why the straight shank hook over an round bend or EWG? Higher percentage of solid hookups 2 Quote
Super User Raul Posted November 29, 2016 Super User Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) On 27/11/2016 at 6:54 PM, Yeajray231 said: I'm talking about the " super salt plus " . What is your preferred way of fishing these worms ? I know the unsalted ones float and are nice for the shakey head; but I'm having a hard time choosing this super salt plus when I'm out fishing. I like zoom I'm just trying to figure out when these would be the best choice.. and so far I haven't figured it out because I'm always reaching for a different worm.. Unsalted ones don't float, they just sink slightly slower. Oops, Wayne beat me to it. Edited November 29, 2016 by Raul Quote
Caliyak Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 On 11/27/2016 at 4:54 PM, Yeajray231 said: I'm talking about the " super salt plus " . What is your preferred way of fishing these worms ? I know the unsalted ones float and are nice for the shakey head; but I'm having a hard time choosing this super salt plus when I'm out fishing. I like zoom I'm just trying to figure out when these would be the best choice.. and so far I haven't figured it out because I'm always reaching for a different worm.. We have some cement canals in Cali that have some nice bass in them. The old school split shot rig for me. I also use them for drop shot. I use this worm a lot and they work great. You have to devote time to master how great they are. 1 Quote
jr231 Posted November 29, 2016 Author Posted November 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, Raul said: Unsalted ones don't float, they just sink slightly slower. Oops, Wayne beat me to it. So there IS a difference. Despite what @Team9nine thinks.. that it's only out there so that I will buy them all. So "I can catch fish too" ha-ha. Like I'm not catching fish A slightly slower sink rate would definitely make a difference some days.. just ask a serious jig fisherman Quote
Outdoor Zack Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 13 hours ago, Catt said: Higher percentage of solid hookups Ok just wondering- thanks 1 Quote
Bassfishnc18 Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 Drop shot them, it they are to large in your taste to drop shot them then tear them until they are the size you want. 1 Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted November 30, 2016 Super User Posted November 30, 2016 On 11/27/2016 at 9:43 PM, Yeajray231 said: Does the salt not keep the worm from floating ? Unsalted worms float.. giving a more vertical presentation on the shakey head... Well senko type worms I will use wacky, and Texas both weighted and weightless.. I also use ribbon tail worms like culprit/Berkeley on a Texas rig. My question is when are these worms best ? And YOUR favorite way to fish them.. I'm aware of how I COULD rig them I'm just curious what the go to preference is.. I figured I was going to get shakey head. I guess that's the only spot they excel more than others. I love these! This past summer the bite got extremely slow around here and my buddy turned me on to the old do-nothing 4" worm. He had a few in the box. We rigged them like a finesse C-rig and caught some bass and salvaged the day. I got home and started digging around in my box of surplus soft plastics and pulled out two bags of these. I rigged them up just like a down-sized C-rig with an 1/8 oz bullet weight and a straight shank offset worm hook one size smaller than normal and they did the trick for a couple weeks when bigger worms wouldn't work. And this was much more weedless than the old 2-hook do-nothing. 1 Quote
jr231 Posted November 30, 2016 Author Posted November 30, 2016 So some are saying more salt sinks slower... some are saying no salt sinks slower. And some are saying there is absolutely no difference other than companies want you to buy extra of the same color. I appreciate the rigging tips and success stories. That's all I was looking for. Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted November 30, 2016 Super User Posted November 30, 2016 On 11/27/2016 at 9:43 PM, Yeajray231 said: 1 minute ago, Yeajray231 said: So some are saying more salt sinks slower... some are saying no salt sinks slower. And some are saying there is absolutely no difference other than companies want you to buy extra of the same color. I appreciate the rigging tips and success stories. That's all I was looking for. Well, I've always made that assumption because it's a "floating worm" but I just Googled it and it said it made the bait denser and therefore easier to cast. Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted November 30, 2016 Super User Posted November 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Yeajray231 said: So there IS a difference. Despite what @Team9nine thinks.. that it's only out there so that I will buy them all. So "I can catch fish too" ha-ha. Like I'm not catching fish A slightly slower sink rate would definitely make a difference some days.. just ask a serious jig fisherman LOL - Of course there's a difference...one has salt and one doesn't But your original statement and question(s) was: Quote I'm talking about the " super salt plus " . What is your preferred way of fishing these worms ? I know the unsalted ones float and are nice for the shakey head; but I'm having a hard time choosing this super salt plus when I'm out fishing. I like zoom I'm just trying to figure out when these would be the best choice.. and so far I haven't figured it out My answer was that I fish the salted ones on a Ned Rig and on a shakey head. That's what I use them for. Yes, there is a technical difference if you were to fish them completely weightless outside of just a hook, but that wasn't your question. My point (inferred) was once you add weight from a jighead, slip sinker, inserted nail, etc, you'd never be able to detect any difference in how the same salted vs non-salted worm fished. The point about getting you to buy two different packs instead of one was partial sarcasm. They (pros, articles, etc.) will try and convince you via marketing you might need both, but the reality is that that would be the rare exception. I'd argue that the ones with salt and the ones with flake are actually probably softer than the non-salted ones, also. -T9 1 Quote
Super User Raul Posted November 30, 2016 Super User Posted November 30, 2016 2 hours ago, Yeajray231 said: So there IS a difference. Despite what @Team9nine thinks.. that it's only out there so that I will buy them all. So "I can catch fish too" ha-ha. Like I'm not catching fish A slightly slower sink rate would definitely make a difference some days.. just ask a serious jig fisherman Trying to school me ? 1 Quote
Yakalong Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 On November 27, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Smallieseeker said: Wacky or weightless texas rig them kinda like a senko I agree this works 1 Quote
jr231 Posted November 30, 2016 Author Posted November 30, 2016 33 minutes ago, Raul said: Trying to school me ? not unless you wanna go ice fishin? Quote
Super User WRB Posted November 30, 2016 Super User Posted November 30, 2016 On November 27, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Yeajray231 said: I'm talking about the " super salt plus " . What is your preferred way of fishing these worms ? I know the unsalted ones float and are nice for the shakey head; but I'm having a hard time choosing this super salt plus when I'm out fishing. I like zoom I'm just trying to figure out when these would be the best choice.. and so far I haven't figured it out because I'm always reaching for a different worm.. Keep in mind all Zoom worms are high production injection molded, this process will leave a thin skin of soft plastic coating the salt granules that isolates the salt form the water. The salt granules add weight, the worm will sink and lay flat on the bottom. Roboworms uses dissolved salt solution, adds salt taste without the weight, these are automated hand pours, softer plastic. The only heavy salt worms I use are Senko's for the natural wiggle action during the sinking towards the bottom. Try a nail rig with your Zoom finesse worms. Tom 1 Quote
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