So what's the big Humminbird news?

[Wayne P.]

18 minutes ago, Goose52 said:

I haven't read up on the improvements over what is now the Helix legacy units so I don't know if they are all hardware-based or whether any of the new or improved features might trickle down to my Helix 10 legacy unit via software upgrade and possibly a transducer upgrade ???

With the G2N, it's hardware--(transducer and processing power), and software.

The Helix 5 G2 and Helix 7 G2 handles mapping better than the current Helix 12.

The only trickle down would be CHIRP like the current Helix 12 CHIRP SI GPS has plus CHIRP Imaging. No transducer difference between the legacy and G2. Possibly the Lakemaster Chart Select Layers processing.

 

 

[Goose52]

25 minutes ago, Wayne P. said:

With the G2N, it's hardware--(transducer and processing power), and software.

The Helix 5 G2 and Helix 7 G2 handles mapping better than the current Helix 12.

The only trickle down would be CHIRP like the current Helix 12 CHIRP SI GPS has plus CHIRP Imaging. No transducer difference between the legacy and G2. Possibly the Lakemaster Chart Select Layers processing.

 

 

Thanks Wayne. It will be interesting to see what the next software upgrade will bring. For me personally, I plan on using my legacy Helix 10 for a long time...

[padon]

I'm glad I waited.the g2 helix 7 has autochart live which is great for me since some off the small lakes I fish aren't mapped.

[Wayne P.]

29 minutes ago, padon said:

I'm glad I waited.the g2 helix 7 has autochart live which is great for me since some off the small lakes I fish aren't mapped.

Works very well to the unit's memory or directly to a Zero Line card.

[padon]

yeah I think just for simplicity ill get a different card for each lake. do I need a special card or just a micro sd?

[Wayne P.]

32 minutes ago, padon said:

yeah I think just for simplicity ill get a different card for each lake. do I need a special card or just a micro sd?

The ONLY memory card you can use for Auto Chart Live is the Auto Chart Zero Line card. It must be the current version that is microSD and not the ones on sale that are full SD size.

Zero Line is the zero depth or shoreline.  There a millions of zero lines on the card.

You sure can spend $100+ for each Zero Line card or you can have a single card that will last the rest of your life.

The only function you can do with a blank memory card and Auto Chart is RECORD sonar logs and load the data to the computer software Auto Chart or Auto Chart Pro. Once the computer program processes the data, you load the maps to the included Zero Line Card to use in the unit.

[slonezp]

On ‎11‎/‎16‎/‎2016 at 5:47 PM, Goose52 said:

Thanks Wayne. It will be interesting to see what the next software upgrade will bring. For me personally, I plan on using my legacy Helix 10 for a long time...

Might as well. I'm still using 1198/1199 and will until they take a crap or I change boats. I just ordered a new base model Helix 5 for my new project boat. Paid less than $200

[Wayne P.]

On 11/16/2016 at 6:47 PM, Goose52 said:

Thanks Wayne. It will be interesting to see what the next software upgrade will bring. For me personally, I plan on using my legacy Helix 10 for a long time...

There is no legacy Helix 10 yet. The current Helix 10 series is still current. Look at the models on the Humminbird website. The G2N is just another addition to the series that has CHIRP Sonar and CHIRP Imaging. The MEGA SI version has 1200 kHz Imaging.

[Goose52]

31 minutes ago, slonezp said:

Might as well. I'm still using 1198/1199 and will until they take a crap or I change boats. I just ordered a new base model Helix 5 for my new project boat. Paid less than $200

You bet. I moved up to the Helix 10 from a 798 so that was a HUGE upgrade for me.  I should be good for a number of years now (unless HB comes out with something like a 14" screen with the latest features for $500  )

19 minutes ago, Wayne P. said:

There is no legacy Helix 10 yet. The current Helix 10 series is still current. Look at the models on the Humminbird website. The G2N is just another addition to the series that has CHIRP Sonar and CHIRP Imaging.

AH, clarification noted. I just assumed that when the new models came out that the "original" Helix 10 would be discontinued (as you can tell, I don't spend a lot of time on the HB web site looking at the model lineup...I have my "new" sonar and will be standing pat for another 4 or 5 years...! ).

[padon]

Ah I see.yeah I think one card with several lakes will be just fine.lol

[Wayne P.]

52 minutes ago, Goose52 said:

You bet. I moved up to the Helix 10 from a 798 so that was a HUGE upgrade for me.  I should be good for a number of years now (unless HB comes out with something like a 14" screen with the latest features for $500  )

AH, clarification noted. I just assumed that when the new models came out that the "original" Helix 10 would be discontinued (as you can tell, I don't spend a lot of time on the HB web site looking at the model lineup...I have my "new" sonar and will be standing pat for another 4 or 5 years...! ).

The only Helix models that are legacy now are the Helix 5 and Helix 7 series. They have had their standard two year production run. The new ones are Helix 5 G2 and Helix 7 G2 with some additional G2N for the Helix 7's that are Ethernet capable.

[Lonny]

So the 7si g2 does not have that mega imaging? Whats the improvements on the g2 over the original 7

[Wayne P.]

24 minutes ago, Lonny said:

So the 7si g2 does not have that mega imaging? Whats the improvements on the g2 over the original 7

Answered your second question on the other post.

No, only the Helix 9 CHIRP MEGA SI GPS G2N, Helix 10 CHIRP MEGA SI GPS G2N, and Helix 12 CHIRP MEGA SI GPS G2N has the (MEGA) 1200 kHz Imaging.

[12poundbass]

34 minutes ago, Lonny said:

So the 7si g2 does not have that mega imaging? Whats the improvements on the g2 over the original 7

The G2 has autochart live, I think there was something else too but someone else can chime in on that.

[A-TOM27]

The Mega Imaging looks great and I am considering buying the 9in when they are released. They say it has a 2.5 amp draw. I currently have 3 batteries on my boat (2 for 24v trolling motor, and 1 starting battery), but will this new depth finder drain too much of my starting battery to have it start the motor after a day of fishing? 2.5 amp draw seems like a lot for a depth finder and I have no more room for another battery. 

[Wayne P.]

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1 hour ago, A-TOM27 said:

The Mega Imaging looks great and I am considering buying the 9in when they are released. They say it has a 2.5 amp draw. I currently have 3 batteries on my boat (2 for 24v trolling motor, and 1 starting battery), but will this new depth finder drain too much of my starting battery to have it start the motor after a day of fishing? 2.5 amp draw seems like a lot for a depth finder and I have no more room for another battery. 

At a minimum you need enough MCA to handle the outboard and enough reserve capacity to handle the deep cycle duty you need for not only the sonar unit, but any other electrical items you operate. You may have to upsize your battery or go dual.

The jumper cables you have (should have) may help you decide if any change is needed.

4 minutes ago, Wayne P. said:

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At a minimum you need enough MCA to handle the outboard and enough reserve capacity to handle the deep cycle duty you need for not only the sonar unit, but any other electrical items you operate. You may have to upsize your battery or go dual.

The jumper cables you have (should have) may help you decide if any change is needed.

At the bow I use a Helix 12 CHIRP SI GPS along with a 360 for a total of 2.25 A. Then *** SI units at the console. I use a group 29 battery at lakes I can use my outboard. When I fish electric-only waters, I just use my bow setup with a group 24 deep cycle battery. An 8 hour cold day will be a strain on the 24 size battery.

Your results may vary.

[Wayne P.]

What the hell, one to three using numbers was censored ????????????????????

[12poundbass]

58 minutes ago, Wayne P. said:

What the hell, one to three using numbers was censored ????????????????????

I'm scratching my head too

[Wayne P.]

4 minutes ago, 12poundbass said:

I'm scratching my head too

I typed one dash three and ended up with ***

[12poundbass]

1 hour ago, Wayne P. said:

I typed one dash three and ended up with ***

1-1

Hmmm I thought it might be the dash so I tried it but obviously that's not it.

[jr231]

It's thir....    teen. They are banned from the site because they flooded the forums with advertising