kidney stones suck !!!!!

[crypt]

why is it whenever you have everything planned,organized and ready to go, something like a kidney stone attack gets in the way? spent early sat. morning in the ER getting pumped full of morphine,fluids etc. not what I had planned.still haven't passed it. oh well here we go again. this about my 20th over the years. they always come on without any warning. just gotta try again next weekend. watch out TOHO i'm coming !!!!!!!

[pawpaw]

I've only had 1 but it was no fun at all. Can't even imagine 20. Hope it passes soon. Good luck.

[riverbasser]

Same here with only 1, too big to pass had to have surgery. No one can understand unless you've had one. Sorry pal

[deaknh03]

Man.....I really feel for you. I've passed 30+ in the last 20 years. Went to the ER for the first one, as I was pretty sure I was dieing..the rest I just gut it out for a couple hours and pass them. I did find a great method to get them out, and it has worked for my last last last or so. I will post a link after, also I take a supplement called stonebreaker which I'm believing is helping. 

It's called the jump and bump method, it has really worked for me..I can feel those buggers move right thru me.

[S. Sass]

Absolutely not a laughing matter when you have them but I did find the timing of this thread funny. I just had a episode of them that lasted almost 2 weeks. Last Wednesday I got back to normal. I started 2 Fridays earlier and I went fishing was on the lake 2 hrs and I had to quit. It hurt to cast. It hurt to reel. It hurt to drive. Well I just hurt all over. I did not go to the hospital either. After the first 3 years in a row I had them and they did the same as what crypt described when to the ER got pumped full of morphine,fluids etc. and received a nice $4000 bill the first time, a $8000 bill the second time and a $4800 bill the last time. I have no insurance being self employed and these happened before the ACA (that isn't affordable) was mandated. Needless to say they are correct when they say people are getting less medical help even with the mandated ACA because its so expensive to get past the deductible (last I checked my deductible is $8900) its worthless.  So yes I stayed at home in pain drinking as much water as I could hoping no jobs came in that I had to take. Amazingly it was very slow the whole time I was down.

If you haven't had kidney stones put the carbonated drink down and step away from it. And drink plenty of water. Well that is what advise I got for my $16800.00 in Dr bills.  

Hope you get through them soon I can definitely vouch for you they suck. 

[whitwolf]

I have had so many over the years I have lost count. While I still occasionally have some Issues It's not nearly as bad since I started drinking at least 80 oz. of water a day. I have a few soft drinks here and there but for the most part It's water. I love sweet tea but have all but given that up. Chocolate Is another no no for me. This will sound weird but the 5 stones that I have had analyzed the urologist made it clear to not eat broccoli. He also strongly recommended staying away from caffeinated liquids and chocolate. 

Water, water, and more water. 

 

[deaknh03]

18 minutes ago, whitwolf said:

I have had so many over the years I have lost count. While I still occasionally have some Issues It's not nearly as bad since I started drinking at least 80 oz. of water a day. I have a few soft drinks here and there but for the most part It's water. I love sweet tea but have all but given that up. Chocolate Is another no no for me. This will sound weird but the 5 stones that I have had analyzed the urologist made it clear to not eat broccoli. He also strongly recommended staying away from caffeinated liquids and chocolate. 

Water, water, and more water. 

 

Calcium oxalate stones..broccoli and a bunch of other seemingly good stuff..spinach etc.. 

[riverbasser]

1 hour ago, deaknh03 said:

Calcium oxalate stones..broccoli and a bunch of other seemingly good stuff..spinach etc.. 

Please quote or tag me when you post the link

[Glenn]

Had stones once - never again. Dark greens and caffeine are the usual suspects, although mine also included too much Gatoraide....and not enough water.  Seriously not enough water.

Now, water is the very first thing I have in the morning, and I'm drinking water all day long.  I cut out all soda and Gatoraide, and cut way back on coffee; plus stopped having spinach salads every night.

Problem solved.

[hawgenvy]

If you've had 20 stones you should have a really thorough work up followed by a common sense strategy to reduce future risk. A thorough work up will include at least one 24-hour urine study, as well as specialized blood tests and chemical analysis of the stone.  Treatment can be tailored to the identified cause of the stones and will take into account your willingness to vary your dietary habits or to take certain medications or mineral supplements long term. The only generic strategy, applicable for almost all stone formers, is to drink enough liquid to keep urine pale (or sufficient to produce 2000 mL per day of urine) and to, importantly, reduce sodium intake. All other suggestions, and there are many possibilities,  depend on the type of stone and the metabolic defect responsible for its formation. But just about every situation of recurrent stones can be ameliorated after thorough evaluation -- if there is a motivated patient. And it is well worth the effort to find a urologist who will be thorough enough.  And there is nothing like having twenty stones to provide sufficient motivation. Good luck!  PS: I am a urologist (and avid bass pursuer).   PSS: if you're not peeing off the side of the boat at least three times during an all day outing, you are not drinking enough water.

[deaknh03]

6 hours ago, hawgenvy said:

If you've had 20 stones you should have a really thorough work up followed by a common sense strategy to reduce future risk. A thorough work up will include at least one 24-hour urine study, as well as specialized blood tests and chemical analysis of the stone.  Treatment can be tailored to the identified cause of the stones and will take into account your willingness to vary your dietary habits or to take certain medications or mineral supplements long term. The only generic strategy, applicable for almost all stone formers, is to drink enough liquid to keep urine pale (or sufficient to produce 2000 mL per day of urine) and to, importantly, reduce sodium intake. All other suggestions, and there are many possibilities,  depend on the type of stone and the metabolic defect responsible for its formation. But just about every situation of recurrent stones can be ameliorated after thorough evaluation -- if there is a motivated patient. And it is well worth the effort to find a urologist who will be thorough enough.  And there is nothing like having twenty stones to provide sufficient motivation. Good luck!  PS: I am a urologist (and avid bass pursuer).   PSS: if you're not peeing off the side of the boat at least three times during an all day outing, you are not drinking enough water.

I have had a workup, changed my diet, drink more water and the stones frequency has lessened dramatically. When I had my xray, there were too many to count in there and I chose to pass them. I also choose to not take any prescriptions. 

[jr231]

Damm deakn.  I hope it gets resolved. I've had 4 major surgeries in my life(none for kidneys). But have had kidney stones.. the stones were horrible. Extreme pain inside the body especially in the back and for me seemed worse when I would lay down. definitely not pleasant passing them either. More annoying than horribly painful but still hurt a good deal. And mine took weeks. 

I suspected energy drinks as my culprit. Because I got on a kick with them and then all the sudden I had kidney stones. So I dropped those.. and have seemed to be ok since. More water. 

[OCdockskipper]

The first kidney stone is the worst, I believe, because you have no idea why there is a knife being stuck in your back/side and no trail has yet been carved through your urinary tract.  

Subsequent ones became less of an issue for me, to the point that like Deaknh, I can feel them moving through with just minor discomfort.  I shot one out last year in December and ended up giving it to my brother-in-law as a gag Christmas present.

[Raul]

No kidney stones but a upper urinary tract infection, holly shmokes, felt like if I was being kicked on the back with those pointy cowboy boots. The interesting part is that I felt fine a couple of hours before the pain began.

[hawgenvy]

I think it's pretty easy to become dehydrated when out bass fishing. Out in the sun without shade, your mind fixed on catching the next bass, unless you are consciously making an effort to drink, your urine is going to become concentrated, and that's when crystalline substances in your kidneys are going to aggregate. Bass fishers are undoubtedly at high risk for kidney stones. In general, lemonade is the best liquid for stone formers to use for hydration, because citric acid is a natural inhibitor of calcium oxalate crystallization. Use Crystal Lite or something like it if you're watching your carbs.

[deaknh03]

1 hour ago, hawgenvy said:

I think it's pretty easy to become dehydrated when out bass fishing. Out in the sun without shade, your mind fixed on catching the next bass, unless you are consciously making an effort to drink, your urine is going to become concentrated, and that's when crystalline substances in your kidneys are going to aggregate. Bass fishers are undoubtedly at high risk for kidney stones. In general, lemonade is the best liquid for stone formers to use for hydration, because citric acid is a natural inhibitor of calcium oxalate crystallization. Use Crystal Lite or something like it if you're watching your carbs.

Sugar can be bad for people that form stones, and the best "lemonade" for stones is actual lemon juice, from a lemon or a pure juice mixed with water. It's one of the things I drink regularly to inhibit stones. Another mistaken "fact" is cranberry juice is good for stones..it's good for uti's associated with stones, but it must be cranberry juice, not cocktail and not sugared up.

[soflabasser]

Never had a kidney stone,but I make sure to drink plenty of water when I am fishing and working out. Make sure to not drink an excessive amount of water since there is a possibility of developing a condition called hyponatremia (can happen to people who over hydrate,such as marathon runners,people doing outdoor activities in the heat,etc ).

[scaleface]

I've  passed two and have two more . They suck is an understatement .

 I missed the state bowling tournament three consecutive years not to mention months and months of fishing time . The culprits , a detached bicep , gout and prostate cancer .

[crypt]

On November 7, 2016 at 0:24 AM, hawgenvy said:

If you've had 20 stones you should have a really thorough work up followed by a common sense strategy to reduce future risk. A thorough work up will include at least one 24-hour urine study, as well as specialized blood tests and chemical analysis of the stone.  Treatment can be tailored to the identified cause of the stones and will take into account your willingness to vary your dietary habits or to take certain medications or mineral supplements long term. The only generic strategy, applicable for almost all stone formers, is to drink enough liquid to keep urine pale (or sufficient to produce 2000 mL per day of urine) and to, importantly, reduce sodium intake. All other suggestions, and there are many possibilities,  depend on the type of stone and the metabolic defect responsible for its formation. But just about every situation of recurrent stones can be ameliorated after thorough evaluation -- if there is a motivated patient. And it is well worth the effort to find a urologist who will be thorough enough.  And there is nothing like having twenty stones to provide sufficient motivation. Good luck!  PS: I am a urologist (and avid bass pursuer).   PSS: if you're not peeing off the side of the boat at least three times during an all day outing, you are not drinking enough water.

have had all of this done and chocolate and caffein is my nemesis. drink at least 80 ozs. of water a day. they haven't been as bad as they were 12-15 years ago. this was the first one in 2 years. but the timing sucks.thanks to all for the response.

[bigfruits]

most are calcium stones. worst pain I have felt in my life.

id recommend seeing a urologist and having an ultrasound image done and submitting a 24hr urine sample.

 

[Catch 22]

I had one bad one another not so bad. Mid summer ,throwing up, sweating  profusely, barely able to drive to the hospital. For those who had not had any stones, imagine having one of your nuts crushed in a vise. Yeah, its that bad.

 

[deaknh03]

3 hours ago, Catch 22 said:

I had one bad one another not so bad. Mid summer ,throwing up, sweating  profusely, barely able to drive to the hospital. For those who had not had any stones, imagine having one of your nuts crushed in a vise. Yeah, its that bad.

 

Worse.

[jr231]

Lol I had them ! And they were bad ! But not nuts in a vise bad.. 

I've had some nasty surgeries tho and pain that put kidney stones to shame. The thing about kidney stones (for me) is how long the problems lasted .... very annoying and painful.. not something I wish on anybody.t 

[deaknh03]

My first one, I told my wife that an organ had exploded inside me. I spent the trip to the ER curled up in a ball on the floor of the car.

[jr231]

30 minutes ago, deaknh03 said:

My first one, I told my wife that an organ had exploded inside me. I spent the trip to the ER curled up in a ball on the floor of the car.

I've had similar pain with my spleen. Due to a blood cell problem I have and ended up having to get it removed !!!! My kidney stones made me think of the pain but it didn't equal it.. but mine wernt big enough I needed surgery. I had to do it the fun way.